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post #1891 of 3447
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Originally Posted by cute View Post
 

 

I am in cancer treatment, and the velours get warm and sweaty for me, so I have to limit my listening to about an hour at a time.  I would like to have extra velour pads so I can just change them every hour.  That will be necessary for me to keep these after the 30 days!  The ear pads should have been available already!

good luck with the treatment......

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Originally Posted by philo50 View Post
 

good luck with the treatment......

 

+1

post #1893 of 3447
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Originally Posted by cute View Post
 

 

I am in cancer treatment, and the velours get warm and sweaty for me, so I have to limit my listening to about an hour at a time.  I would like to have extra velour pads so I can just change them every hour.  That will be necessary for me to keep these after the 30 days!  The ear pads should have been available already!

 

Warning: Spoiler!/OT (Click to show)

Not that I wanted to post it but... welcome to the club :( I am just finishing mine [so long past the itchy stage].

Much luck & strength :beerchug: It'll only get better, really!

 

I [We?] are lucky to have good headphones & music. That helped me tremendously :]


Edited by conquerator2 - 5/10/14 at 6:09am
post #1894 of 3447

Dear OPPO,

 

Would you kindly explain the skewed pricing system that your UK department have implemented for the PM-1. To inform thread readers, Srajan Ebaen recently wrote on digitalaudioreview: 

 

"But reader Chris Skelton just couldn’t say amen to their math which he verbatim called “taking the piss out of the UK”. You see, the PM-1 reaches a US punter for $1099 whilst his UK mate shells out £1099. Before you shrug so what, realise how at writing day’s effective exchange rate this meant the English were billed a whopping $1845 in US currency or $1988 in Aussie dollars. That’s how quickly opportunity can turn opposition. Of course it’s not something reviewers have any say in".

To which I replied:

 

"I think that Chris Skelton has it succinctly pegged when he says “Taking the piss out of the UK” as this dollar to euro price parity is quite frankly scandalous and blatant profiteering. No doubt Oppo (UK) will try to justify it by mentioning VAT and other associated import costs. However, what such justification neglects to mention is that many American states impose local sales tax, which is an additional cost and yet the PM-1 still manages to retail for $1,099 but is priced at £1,099 ($1,845) in the UK. GO FIGURE!".

 

Please explain why the advertised UK cost of the PM-1 is so much more expensive than the USA price, as us UK/European audiophiles are somewhat irked by this pricing disparity. 

 

Thanks,

Andy.

 

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Originally Posted by HasturTheYellow View Post
 

From the OPPO HA-1 Headphone Amplifier Impressions Thread:

 

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The very best of luck and future good health to you. 

 

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Originally Posted by cute View Post
 

 

I am in cancer treatment, and the velours get warm and sweaty for me, so I have to limit my listening to about an hour at a time.  I would like to have extra velour pads so I can just change them every hour.  That will be necessary for me to keep these after the 30 days!  The ear pads should have been available already!

post #1896 of 3447
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Originally Posted by HasturTheYellow View Post

 

We will be selling the leather and velour pads separately in pairs as replacements for PM-1 customers and as alternatives for PM-2 customers. Pricing and release date to be determined.

 

That's great news, thanks!

 

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Originally Posted by dduck View Post

 

So... are you NDA'ed, or can you let on if the PM-2 does indeed sound like the PM-1? :)

 

Kinda tempted to pick up a PM-1 when I visit the US in the summer, but if I can pick up a PM-2 and a Crack with Speedball for the same price, perhaps that's a better use of $1,100,-

 

Those of us who are beta testing the PM-2 were told no new NDA was necessary.  Given that both the PM-1 and HA-1 NDAs have been lifted, I'm not currently under an NDA. So, I'm free to answer your question.  :smile:

 

I can't hear any difference, whatsoever between the PM-1 and PM-2.  Get this (and I doubt OPPO would have any problem with me sharing this):  To test the PM-2, they sent us replacement pads and a replacement cable - to convert our PM-1s into PM-2s.   Pads and cables are the only PM-2 parts that could possibly have any impact on distinguishing the sound of the PM-2 from the PM-1.   Seriously.  That's it.  The drivers are identical.  The PM-2 drivers are the PM-1 drivers.

 

If you were to buy a PM-2, then attach your choice of PM-1 pads, plus the PM-1 cable, you'd be left with frame and headband differences that could have no impact on sound quality any moreso than the wood presentation box, the denim carrying case, etc.  I cannot hear any difference when attaching PM-2 ear pads and cables to the PM-1 drivers.

 

OPPO's decision to essentially sell one headphone in both dress and casual attire, is brilliant, in my opinion.  

 

Wear your tux or your pajamas - you're welcome to join the party, either way!   :L3000:

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Originally Posted by zilch0md View Post
 

I can't hear any difference, whatsoever between the PM-1 and PM-2.

 

Wow, thanks for sharing.  I'm guessing the PM-2 is going to do very, very well.

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^^ I'd agree with that.

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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

Thanks for sharing the info. For me, there just isn't much "scale" associated with the pm-1 and amps. While this hp does benefit modestly from a desktop amp just about any will do the job. The Vali at 1/10 the cost of the HA-1 will get you up to speed on the pm-1 IMO. 

Actually, I did test the pm-1 with my iphone 5 for a short while using the (very short) 1/8th in terminated cable. The iphone had plenty of gain for these, there's no other planar I tried today that were anywhere near as easy to drive.

If not scaling with the amp, what I probably heard then is the benefit of desktop dac rather than the iphone's dac. In any case, while it sounded really good through the iphone, it was much more resolved and dynamic through the ha-1.

Obviously, I can't speak for other amps with the pm1 but, regardless, the ha-1 is an dac/amp attractive combo by its own.
Edited by arnaud - 5/10/14 at 6:18am
post #1900 of 3447
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

You wouldn't want to pair the crack with a planar mag hp...bad mismatch. 

I would be using myNAD D1050 for the planars. The Crack would be for my T1s.
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I agree the European pricing is absurd. Of course the sales tax is lower in usa and there's distribution overheads. But, for instance, both the ha-1 and pm-1 are priced at 1500usd here in Japan (8% sales tax included, 150,000JPY and 160,000JPY, don't remember which is which). That's more reasonable imho, website is localized (all in japanese), there definitely is some distribution costs associated.

Arnaud
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Originally Posted by cute View Post
 

 

I am in cancer treatment, and the velours get warm and sweaty for me, so I have to limit my listening to about an hour at a time.  I would like to have extra velour pads so I can just change them every hour.  That will be necessary for me to keep these after the 30 days!  The ear pads should have been available already!

Praying for a fast recuperation back to health for you.

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Originally Posted by zilch0md View Post

That's great news, thanks!

Is there a pre-order page for the PM-2 already? 😉

Those of us who are beta testing the PM-2 were told no new NDA was necessary.  Given that both the PM-1 and HA-1 NDAs have been lifted, I'm not currently under an NDA. So, I'm free to answer your question.  smile.gif

I can't hear any difference, whatsoever between the PM-1 and PM-2.  Get this (and I doubt OPPO would have any problem with me sharing this):  To test the PM-2, they sent us replacement pads and a replacement cable - to convert our PM-1s into PM-2s.   Pads and cables are the only PM-2 parts that could possibly have any impact on distinguishing the sound of the PM-2 from the PM-1.   Seriously.  That's it.  The drivers are identical.  The PM-2 drivers are the PM-1 drivers.

If you were to buy a PM-2, then attach your choice of PM-1 pads, plus the PM-1 cable, you'd be left with frame and headband differences that could have no impact on sound quality any moreso than the wood presentation box, the denim carrying case, etc.  I cannot hear any difference when attaching PM-2 ear pads and cables to the PM-1 drivers.

OPPO's decision to essentially sell one headphone in both dress and casual attire, is brilliant, in my opinion.  

Wear your tux or your pajamas - you're welcome to join the party, either way!   L3000.gif

Is there a pre-order page for the PM-2 already? 😉
Edited by lukeap69 - 5/10/14 at 6:44am
post #1904 of 3447
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Originally Posted by lukeap69 View Post


Is there a pre-order page for the PM-2 already? 😉

 

There is no pre-order page, you can go on Oppo website and subscribe to their email notification for the PM2 when they'll release it.

 

Here is their website link for the PM-2, if you go to the bottom of the page, there is an entry box to add your email address to be notified when it will be released.

 

http://www.oppodigital.com/headphones-pm-2/

post #1905 of 3447
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Originally Posted by zilch0md View Post

I can't hear any difference, whatsoever between the PM-1 and PM-2.  Get this (and I doubt OPPO would have any problem with me sharing this):  To test the PM-2, they sent us replacement pads and a replacement cable - to convert our PM-1s into PM-2s.   Pads and cables are the only PM-2 parts that could possibly have any impact on distinguishing the sound of the PM-2 from the PM-1.   Seriously.  That's it.  The drivers are identical.  The PM-2 drivers are the PM-1 drivers.

Wow!

Guess I'm getting a pair!
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