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Originally Posted by WilCox View Post
 

Just purchased the 2 meter cable 5 minutes ago.  Thanks for making these available at a reasonable price.  I still have enough money left over for an HA-1!

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From: Customer Service [mailto:service@oppodigital.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 11:14 AM
Subject: OPPO Package Shipped to You

 

Your order was shipped to you on 05/07/2014 via U.S. Postal Service Priority Mail, Flat Rate Padded Env....

 

Wow!  That was fast. Great service!

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FedEx just delivered mine.  A wonderful packaging job by Oppo; my wife could not believe the weight of the carton, or the wooden box (helps her justify what I spent!).  The quality of the construction of the headphones is outstanding; the metal work is flawless, with a beautiful blend of machined, bead-blasted, anodized, and PVD (?) surfaces.  Excellent leather and fabric, with perfect stitching.  Stunningly well-thought out work on all the accessories (cables, ear pads, and case).  From a design perspective, these are superb.  This is the kind of workmanship one sees on a superb Swiss or German watch, or a high-end pocket knife; I was reminded of what I thought when I got my MacBook Pro (which the PM-1 matches in every esthetic).  These phones announce "this is high-end" better than any other headphone I've handled or seen, even before listening to them.  

 

I listened for a few minutes to a couple of well-liked cuts that I use to assess equipment, smiled broadly, and set them aside to burn in.  Already thinking of selling off a couple of my other phones, and anticipating getting the HA-1 and the balanced cables...


Edited by JML - 5/7/14 at 10:02am
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So my HE-560 showed up today...

 

First impressions vs the PM-1:

1. Wow - I am surprised there are so many fingerprints on the HE-560 aluminum box. 

2. The cable is pretty stiff... Cables on the PM-1 is much nicer. 

3. Sound a bit brighter than the PM-1.  - can't report a winner yet..way too early

4. PM-1 build quality is WAY better than the HE-560. 

5. PM-1 have more bass than the HE-560. 

6. I prefer the look of the PM-1 to the HE-560

7. PM-1 are more comfortable - the HE-560 have a bit more clamping force, and the top/bottom of my ears touch the pads on the HE-560

8. The PM-1 is way more efficient. I had both headphones running off a Questyle CMA 800R amp. I have to crank the volume way up when listening to the HE-560 vs the PM-1

 

I have only listed to 2 songs so far with the HE-560, but initial impression is I am going to prefer the PM-1.  I will report back after I spend some more time with both of them.


Edited by jh7000 - 5/7/14 at 10:08am
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Have anyone compared oppo's to lcd2 or T1's? whats your toughts?

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Originally Posted by jh7000 View Post
 

So my HE-560 showed up today...

 

First impressions vs the PM-1:

1. Wow - I am surprised there are so many fingerprints on the HE-560 aluminum box. 

2. The cable is pretty stiff... Cables on the PM-1 is much nicer. 

3. Sound a bit brighter than the PM-1.  - can't report a winner yet..way too early

4. PM-1 build quality is WAY better than the HE-560. 

5. PM-1 have more bass than the HE-560. 

6. I prefer the look of the PM-1 to the HE-560

7. PM-1 are more comfortable - the HE-560 have a bit more clamping force, and the top/bottom of my ears touch the pads on the HE-560

 

 

I have only listed to 2 songs so far with the HE-560, but initial impression is I am going to prefer the PM-1.  I will report back after I spend some more time with both of them.

A bit brighter, only?

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Originally Posted by rev92 View Post
 

Have anyone compared oppo's to lcd2 or T1's? whats your toughts?

I had both.

 

I couldn't wear the LCD2 for more than about 1 hour... too much clamping force...just not comfortable to me. The LCD2 also rolled off the treble too much for me as well.

 

I liked the T1, but sold them a while ago as I preferred the HD800 over the T1s. I can say that the PM-1 build quality is much better then the T1... the PM-1 is also a more "natural" sounding headphone. The T1 was a bit too bright for me for long listening sessions.

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I think you overreact, T1's are very very very well build, oppo's can be better, but not much better, come on :D 

Platinum body and Velvet pads? :D

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Originally Posted by x RELIC x View Post

HasturTheYellow, can you share any info about the HA-1? Obviously April has come and gone, is there an ETA?

Thanks

 

 

Why is 6 afraid of 7? Because seven eight nine!

 

Today is the long awaited release of the HA-1 Headphone Amplifier. Initial units will be in Black only, but Silver units will be available this June.

 

 

Press Release (Click to show)

OPPO Releases HA-1 Headphone Amplifier

 

High Performance Headphone Amplifier, Pre-Amplifier and USB DAC in One Unit

 

 

MOUNTAIN VIEW, CA--(Marketwired - May 7, 2014) - Shortly after the successful launch of its PM-1 planar magnetic headphones, OPPO Digital (www.oppodigital.com) released another member of its family of personal audio products today -- the HA-1 headphone amplifier.

OPPO Digital is well known for its reference quality universal Blu-ray Disc players, and the HA-1 headphone amplifier builds upon the success of the BDP-95 and BDP-105 audiophile players. Drawing upon the proven circuit design of these award-winning players, the HA-1 combines an uncompromising analog audio section with the latest technology in digital audio.

The analog audio section of the HA-1 is a fully balanced design with an emphasis on keeping the audio signal in the analog domain once it leaves the DAC. The HA-1 is anchored by a hefty toroidal power transformer, and linear power regulators and filters with custom made capacitors ensure that the headphone amplifier has a clean power source with plenty of reserve energy. The fully balanced Class A power amplification section uses hand-picked and paired discrete components to ensure symmetry, and a motor-driven precision volume control knob allows for both manual and remote control volume adjustment while keeping the audio in a pure analog audio path.

The HA-1 is especially suitable for high-resolution digital audio playback. Its digital inputs include coaxial, optical, balanced AES/EBU, and an asynchronous USB DAC. It is easy to connect the HA-1 to digital audio players or to a computer running the listener's favorite playback software. The USB DAC supports PCM audio up to 384 kHz 32-bit resolution and DSD audio up to 256x the CD sample rate. The same ESS 9018 Sabre32 Reference DAC and output driving stage used in OPPO audiophile Blu-ray players ensure extremely low noise and low distortion performance. The HA-1 is compatible with Apple's iPod, iPhone and iPad for use as an external DAC, enabling the listener to directly tap into digital music played from these devices. For additional convenience, the Bluetooth audio transport with high quality aptX CODEC sets music free from your mobile phones with a performance boost.

OPPO designs the HA-1 headphone amplifier with the same versatile approach as the Blu-ray players. The HA-1 is a high performance headphone amplifier, and it doubles as an asynchronous USB DAC, a stereo pre-amplifier, a digital audio dock for mobile devices, and a Bluetooth audio transport. Users have a choice of using the 4-pin balanced XLR or the traditional quarter-inch headphone jack. Line level analog inputs and outputs are provided with both RCA and balanced XLR sockets.

The HA-1 sports a classic design with contemporary elements. It is a desktop component housed in an aluminum chassis, and the familiar volume and source selection knobs are complemented by a 4.3-inch color screen for easy operation. While music is playing, the screen can show a classic VU meter, a modern spectrum display, or detailed technical information about the audio signal. A supplied IR remote and a smartphone app provide complete control and convenience.

With its exemplary sound quality, versatile connectivity, and energetic driving power, the HA-1 headphone amplifier is a good match with any high performance headphones or stereo sound system. The black version of the HA-1 is available now directly from OPPO Digital's web site at a retail price of $1199, and the silver version is estimated to be available in June.

* Trademarks mentioned in this document are the property of their respective owners.

 

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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

Is there an estimate on the price for the ha-1?

 

The MSRP for the HA-1 is $1,199 and will become available for purchase later this afternoon.

 

EDIT: You can now purchase the HA-1 Headphone Amplifier by clicking on this link

 

You can read more about the HA-1 by going to the dedicated HA-1 Headphone amplifier website.


Edited by HasturTheYellow - 5/7/14 at 10:28am
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Originally Posted by rev92 View Post
 

I think you overreact, T1's are very very very well build, oppo's can be better, but not much better, come on :D 

Platinum body and Velvet pads? :D

Not an over-reaction... PM-1 build is way better than T1. 

 

Problems with T1 build:

1. The adjustments don't hold well.. I would have to re-adjust the size every time I wore them. I had 2 pair of T1s..both had the same problem.

2. Right at the T1 stamp on the headband, there is very little metal left to support the cups. I know dubstepgirl broke right there

3. The leather at the top of the T1 gets very wrinkled and doesn't really look that nice after they have been used a while

4. Not very hard to damage the mesh on the outside of the ear cups on the T1

 

I cannot find a single thing to complain about with the PM-1 build quality. 

 

 

Again - I really did like the T1... so much so that I had a pair for the office and the house.

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The adjustments work really great on me, no problems at all, it holds better than my T90's 

I find them super solid, cant even imagine how i could damage them :)

Ty for your opinion, i want to check these oppo's :)

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Originally Posted by jh7000 View Post

So my HE-560 showed up today...

First impressions vs the PM-1:
1. Wow - I am surprised there are so many fingerprints on the HE-560 aluminum box. 
2. The cable is pretty stiff... Cables on the PM-1 is much nicer. 
3. Sound a bit brighter than the PM-1.  - can't report a winner yet..way too early
4. PM-1 build quality is WAY better than the HE-560. 
5. PM-1 have more bass than the HE-560. 
6. I prefer the look of the PM-1 to the HE-560
7. PM-1 are more comfortable - the HE-560 have a bit more clamping force, and the top/bottom of my ears touch the pads on the HE-560
8. The PM-1 is way more efficient. I had both headphones running off a Questyle CMA 800R amp. I have to crank the volume way up when listening to the HE-560 vs the PM-1

I have only listed to 2 songs so far with the HE-560, but initial impression is I am going to prefer the PM-1.  I will report back after I spend some more time with both of them.
Comgrats ! Wich one do you think has more depth ( soundstage wise ) , 3D imaging ?
Thanks in advance
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Originally Posted by rev92 View Post
 

Have anyone compared oppo's to lcd2 or T1's? whats your toughts?

 

I havent done a direct A/B comparison, but I've listened to the LCD2.2s enough over the past 6 months or so to know what they do.  In terms of pure sound quality, I prefer the LCD2s.  They have better dynamics and provide a timbral balance that, to me, sounds closer to a live reference. 

 

The PM1s are lighter, more portable and easy to drive - these are my travel headphones and will get a lot of headtime - they are close enough to the LCDs that I dont feel a massive letdown when I listen to them (something I've struggled with in the past with other candidates I've tried).     They've also made my HD650s redundant - I used to keep them around for longer listening sessions when i wasnt listening critically and wanted a smooth, non-fatiguing sound.   These do the same.   I think the HD650s/Little Dot Mk4SE is going on sale soon.

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I’ve seen some discussion on the forums about the new OPPO PM-1, and some concern over whether or not it has treble extension and presence. Like I said in my first impression of the production version of the PM-1, “The PM-1's treble is smooooth and detailed. If you tend to prefer a hint of lift in treble, you may be disappointed a bit, but I really enjoy how they tuned it here,” and I still feel that way about it just over one month later.

 

I’ve seen debates about whether or not there is real or important content in music at or above 10kHz, and I’m not going to fight with any of you there—because there is. Does anyone here own any recordings from the label Reference Recordings? You ever run any of their albums through a spectrum analyzer? Reference Recordings’ Keith O. Johnson has a knack for capturing quite a lot of energy up to 20kHz (where Garage Band’s spectrum analyzer stops). Now I’m not saying I can hear up to 20khz anymore, but I can hear well into and past some of the frequencies I’ve seen discussed in at least one of the PM-1 threads, and I can assure you the PM-1 is certainly playing there. Here’s a spectrum analyzer screenshot from one Reference Recordings track (from their Tutti! sampler):

 

 

Yes, that’s a random moment in time, but you can screenshot the spectrum analyzer to your heart’s content on just about anything Keith O. Johnson has engineered, and you’ll see the upper treble zone bouncing around rather routinely.  Because I was unsure of the opinion on Garage Band's spectrum analyzer by those who'd know better than me, I decided to see if I could hear the effect of altering treble on the PM-1, at or beyond the range at which some are either saying that (a) there's no content worth hearing up there, and/or (b) that the PM-1 won't play up there. To do that, I used the Sonic Studio parametric equalizer in Amarra while playing any of the tracks on Tutti!, and narrowed the band to just the upper treble range (I played with a few different settings, in a few different ranges, but always adjusting Q to keep the band narrow enough), and adjusted up and down, and, lo!, it has an effect on the PM-1’s sound. Why? Because it plays there. Like I said, it’s anything but boosted up there, but it’s there. Is it devoid of air? To my ears, absolutely not. (If you have Amarra, try it yourself. If you're unsure of how to use a parametric equalizer, you can easily find that information by searching the web for info on that.)

 

Again, if you tend to prefer brightness or any kind of accentuated treble, there's a good chance the PM-1 may not be your cup of tea. But is the treble missing? Again, to my ears, no--it's definitely there. And, by the way, my feelings about the PM-1 are still consistent with the first impressions I posted.

 

NOTE: I'm not suggesting that you must listen to Reference Recordings albums to hear and see the energy up there. I only mention them, because Keith O. Johnson just seems to be particularly good at capturing it all.

post #1814 of 3442
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Originally Posted by HasturTheYellow View Post
 

Unknown. The PM-1 is a pretty new product for us, so the initial sales are done direct to ensure that we can control the communication to the customer. Feedback is key during the first couple of months to ensure that any manufacturing niggles are identified and fixed, recommendations are implemented, and use applications are understood. Overall, it helps us better understand customer expectations and allows us to better choose whom should sell the headphones. For example, Amazon.com sells our BDP-103 and BDP-103D players, but does not carry the BDP-105 and BDP-105D players. Whereas Crutchfield and MusicDirect is the reverse. Different customer basses, different expectations, different product distribution.

 

Is the PM-1 currently only available from USA?

 

Information, as and when available, on international distributors will be welcome. Hopefully, that will happen and there will be a page on your website.

 

Oh, wait... I recall mention of a horribly-high price in UK, but remember there is a world outside USA/Europe! :)


Edited by Thad-E-Ginathom - 5/7/14 at 12:21pm
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OPPO Digital, Inc only operates in North America, so I really can't comment on how the distribution channels work internationally or in specific markets such as India. At this time all direct sales of the PM-1 will be for North American customers. The ability to send to international customers, such as yourself, is something that we will likely have an option for in a month or two. You should contact us through E-Mail or Phone you need additional assistance or have additional inquiries which we can address.

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