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post #1741 of 3442
The only turn off is that you lose sub bass with velours, and velours are the only way I'd ever use these. Meh. I knew it was too good to be true. My last hope is the HE400i, if only because they are using pleather with velour tops, so you get the sonic quality of leather, and comfort of velour.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 5/5/14 at 10:22pm
post #1742 of 3442
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

The only turn off is that you lose sub bass with velours, and velours are the only way I'd ever use these. Meh. I knew it was too good to be true. My last hope is the HE400i, if only because they are using pleather with velour tops, so you get the sonic quality of leather, and comfort of velour.

I would normally say the same thing about velours... I have sensory issues and velours are always much better for me.
(leather and pleather irritat my skin pretty quickly)
However I have heard that the PM-1's leather cups are very soft and supple, but I haven't felt them for myself.
I also love my bass, so hearing that there may be slightly less with the velours is a conundrum for sure.
There only one way to find out though...
 

post #1743 of 3442
I say this time and time again: Leather pads can be the softest most luxurious pads in existence, I will still not want them. The issue isn't softness, but rather heat build up and stickyness. I can't stand any brand of leather or synthetic leather on my skin, including the well loved Alpha pads. They are comfortable until heat sets in.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 5/5/14 at 11:16pm
post #1744 of 3442
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I say this time and time again: Leather pads can be the softest most luxurious pads in existence, I will still not want them. The issue isn't softness, but rather heat build up and stickyness. I can't stand any brand of leather or synthetic leather on my skin, including the well loved Alpha pads. They are comfortable until heat sets in.

Ditto, I'm pretty much the same way, it's irritating to my skin. I'm usually good for maybe a half hour or more as long as I don't think about it.
Once I feel it being irritating, they have to come off.

post #1745 of 3442

Bass should be extended, not reduced, when using the velour pads versus the leather pads. You can see this being the case when you compare the velour and leather earpad Inner Fidelity measurements.

post #1746 of 3442
Huh... interesting. I guess I'd just have to hear them at some point.
post #1747 of 3442
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Bass should be extended, not reduced, when using the velour pads versus the leather pads. You can see this being the case when you compare the velour and leather earpad Inner Fidelity measurements.

 

How very interesting!  I will have to retest this...

post #1748 of 3442

That is unusual. Is it losing bass through the perforations or does it seal less or what?

post #1749 of 3442
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Originally Posted by HasturTheYellow View Post
 

Bass should be extended, not reduced, when using the velour pads versus the leather pads. You can see this being the case when you compare the velour and leather earpad Inner Fidelity measurements.

 

I'm sorry but this is not the case. There is certainly a slight but appreciable reduction in the sub bass region when switching to velours. Possibly there is a issue with the fit and or seal of the velours...not sure. I'll double check my finding though. 

post #1750 of 3442

@Aetherhole 

 

Thanks for posting your review. Well done!! It seems to confirm the impressions that have already surfaced about the pm-1. 

post #1751 of 3442
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Bass should be extended, not reduced, when using the velour pads versus the leather pads. You can see this being the case when you compare the velour and leather earpad Inner Fidelity measurements.

 

Yup. I'm not sure who's spreading the info that the bass is stronger with leather, but I don't find that to be the case at all. My ears feel and hear slightly more bass with the velours, but the differences aren't huge. The charts back this.

post #1752 of 3442

I'm with the crowd that observes improved bass with the velour pads.

post #1753 of 3442
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Originally Posted by HasturTheYellow View Post
 

Bass should be extended, not reduced, when using the velour pads versus the leather pads. You can see this being the case when you compare the velour and leather earpad Inner Fidelity measurements.

 

Yup. I'm not sure who's spreading the info that the bass is stronger with leather, but I don't find that to be the case at all. My ears feel and hear slightly more bass with the velours, but the differences aren't huge. The charts back this.

 

I agree with that!  I think the soundstage is slightly bigger with velours.  I also think the velours sound a bit more meaty than the leathers!  I've gone with the velours right from the start, so for me, going to the leather pads is a bit of a let down, but just slightly.  I like them both.  I will have the HE-560 for comparison in the next couple of days.

post #1754 of 3442
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Originally Posted by keanex View Post
 

 

Yup. I'm not sure who's spreading the info that the bass is stronger with leather, but I don't find that to be the case at all. My ears feel and hear slightly more bass with the velours, but the differences aren't huge. The charts back this.

 

Sorry guys. I just don't hear it that way. Admittedly I only listened to a few tracks and then went right back to the leather. I'll check again tonight to see if I hear anything different. In my experience, velour usually subtracts some amount of bass. The exception being the he400 where the bass seemed "retained."

post #1755 of 3442
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Sorry guys. I just don't hear it that way. Admittedly I only listened to a few tracks and then went right back to the leather. I'll check again tonight to see if I hear anything different. In my experience, velour usually subtracts some amount of bass. The exception being the he400 where the bass seemed "retained."

Matt, I'm right there with you.  Maybe I need to do further critical listening, but from my experience I just don't hear "more" with the velour.  I did hear a bigger soundstage, though.

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