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post #1711 of 3442

maybe HE-560 will be better bet or WOO WEE with my esp-950..

 

note that i hate heavy and clampee uncomfortable headphone too...

 

even pm-1 weight is a little to much for me..

 

..

 

i'll try EQ,balance and woo wee on my esp-950 first..


Edited by Audiolic - 5/5/14 at 3:42pm
post #1712 of 3442
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Originally Posted by Audiolic View Post
 

maybe HE-560 will be better bet or WOO WEE with my esp-950..

 

note that i hate heavy and clampee uncomfortable headphone too...

 

even pm-1 weight is a little to much for me..

 

..

 

i'll try EQ,balance and woo wee on my esp-950 first..

 

No one has more issues or gripes with weight than me. I don't feel the heft of the pm-1 at all. 

post #1713 of 3442
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Did you ever try the taket h2 plus and stax omega, lamda and esp-950 versus HD800...

 

HD800 + linear eq before dac is interesting..

I never tried Stax because i know it's totally different and too expensive level while i honestly have HD800 plus what some people call shoe box DIY amp as end game setup
post #1714 of 3442
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maybe HE-560 will be better bet or WOO WEE with my esp-950..

..and woo wee on my esp-950 first..
What is a woo wee? Lol
Edit: ok never mind found out
Edited by Maxx134 - 5/5/14 at 3:57pm
post #1715 of 3442
Special box for usin Stax like headphones with non Stax amp
post #1716 of 3442
Wow Maxx, that's very surprising given your impressions in the beginning of this thread. But I applaud you for your honesty. And that took a lot of guts to come out and say what you did. That's the very reason why many well experienced headfiers don't post their impressions until after they have lived with a can for a while inspite of all the pressure to do so.
Edited by moodyrn - 5/5/14 at 4:02pm
post #1717 of 3442

maybe the better soundstage of the HD800 make it better for details... (more 3D space for sounds to dance)

 

HD800 are kinda over priced in my opinion.. even pm-1 is overpriced and lcd-3 even more...

 

since you have the HE560 and ESP-950 option..

 

PM1 and HD800 should be at 1100 and LCD3 at 1400

 

taket and stax 009 or new lighter high end stax should be at 1500-2000.

 

in the future weight and comfort will be as even more important for customer..


Edited by Audiolic - 5/5/14 at 4:16pm
post #1718 of 3442
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maybe the better soundstage of the HD800 make it better for details... (more 3D space for sounds to dance)

 

HD800 are kinda over priced in my opinion.. even pm-1 is overpriced and lcd-3 even more...

 

since you have the HE560 and ESP-950 option..

 

PM1 and HD800 should be at 1100 and LCD3 at 1400

 

taket and stax 009 or new lighter high end stax should be at 1500-2000.

 

in the future weight and comfort will be as even more important for customer..

Get used HD800 for a price of new PM-1 and enjoy
post #1719 of 3442

Musicality is how well a headphone carries the energy of a song, simply melting into the music instead of worrying about the details. The Audio Technica Ad2000 are the most musical headphone I've ever heard, the PM-1 have similar traits. 

post #1720 of 3442

Everybody also has a different set of criteria for what makes a headphone sound musical to them as well.

post #1721 of 3442
There's really no consensus of what musicality is. With some, it's warmth, lushness, euphoric ,etc. With others, it's may be something completely different. I think the he6 and w3000 are very musical sounding cans, but they couldn't be more different.
post #1722 of 3442
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Good question. Musical..
When you are "tuned in" to the signature of a can,
So as to be able to follow the mood and theme of a song without feeling distracted or lacking in any way from the can..

The AlphaDog had this once you "tune in" but when you are "tuned into" another can of larger proportions or technicalities, then you develop your own "taste" in which you may find a can lacking.

The funny thing is, the more unique a signature of a can, the more you remember it's strengths.

It was easier for me to enjoy the PM1 over the AlphaDog only because the Alpha was the more accurate or linear can, which to me also had less soundstage and bass, but it's trebles were more on point.
If your mind likes the signature of the AlphaDog, then it is for you.
But remember both different music, and also age will make you prefer other choices in future.

I myself preferred Audio Technica sound most in the beginning before I started preferring the Ultrasone and hd800.
I can still enjoy my Audio Technica,
And I feel this is why alot members end up having more than one can,
Because, like enjoying different music, you can enjoy different cans.

You are limiting yourself to try to have just one can.
There is no fabled "perfect can"
There is a reality of many choices,
For different purposes and "seeing" different things.


I hope that answers your question.

 

ok, i get what you mean, besides the AD, i have grado's and the lcd x, on my musicality scale, i'd say the the AD's are just behind the grado's, and thats not to say i don't find the lcd-x musical,

its great, i love it, but i connect to the music in a different way, and more consistently with the grado's than i do with the AD and the X.

post #1723 of 3442
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Originally Posted by moodyrn View Post

Wow Maxx, that's very surprising given your impressions in the beginning of this thread. But I applaud you for your honesty. And that took a lot of guts to come out and say what you did. That's the very reason why many well experienced headfiers don't post their impressions until after they have lived with a can for a while inspite of all the pressure to do so.

 

It's weird because on my side my opinion hasn't changed at all since I have received my pair 3 weeks ago.

 

In my opinion Oppo have delivered a product that is extremely competitive versus the entire Audeze lineup.


Edited by YtseJamer - 5/5/14 at 5:39pm
post #1724 of 3442
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My only true gripe is all the extravagance I paid extra for when to me it is not approaching a top can status..
I guess I have to accept the PM1 will be like Ultrasone in that regard.($$$)

It took me over a year to decide between the BDP-105 and the 103.  In the end I chose the BDP-103, and am very happy with it.   I don't believe the PM-1 is for me either.

 

 I'm pretty sure the PM-2 will be similar to the 103 in that regard. I just don't need all of the extra fancy stuff- if I can get 80% of the performance, I will be a happy Head-fier.


That really not an equal comparison, but close...

The differences between the 103  and the 105 are that the 105 adds a dedicated 2CH analog output with high end DAC, digital audio inputs with asynchronous USB input, and a quality headphone amp. If your needs do not take advantage of any of those features, then you would obviously choose the 103.

The differences between the PM-1 and the PM-2 are not nearly as paramount.
ALL of the differences are not clear yet since the PM-2 is yet to be released, but what we do know is that the PM-2 will not have the fancy wood box, it will not have the softer lambskin, and some of the highly precisioned metal parts may be replaced with high density plastic parts.
However, Oppo says that the drivers are identical, and as such, the sound should be identical or very close to the PM-1.
If your reason for passing on the PM-1 is due to the price and fancy trimmings, then the PM-2 will probably be a no-brainer at it's price point.

Personally I am struggling with that exact choice myself. The PM-1 are so beautiful, and the user feedback is so positive, it is very difficult to not pull the trigger.
In fact I probably would have caved already if I had the cash on hand, but it'll be maybe another month until I do, and that is when the PM-2 is expected to street,
so that might make it an easier choice when it does and we start seeing real PM-1 vs PM-2 comparisons.
If I had money to burn though, I would have bought them on day one. :smile_phones: 

post #1725 of 3442

The HD600/HD650 use the same drivers as do a few Grados, but there are definitely sonic differences. 

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