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Originally Posted by Frank I View Post
 

The great thing about the pads is it so fast and easy to switch them. Companies should benchmark how well this system works . The PM-1 is one of the very best build designs I ahve seen. i do not think there is another headphone that has the total design quality if the PM-1

I agree. the ear pad attachment system is simple, easy and the same time robust.

post #1697 of 3442

The leather seems to form a really good seal with the cup housing. I thought about a simple double sided tape mod, but honestly I don't see that it would improve anything. 

post #1698 of 3442
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Originally Posted by up late View Post

you should come clean man - it is an impressions thread after all wink.gif
Ok I will come clean.
The PM1 are not for me.
Although they can easily be for you.

I am a detail freak when it comes to trebles:
Instrument separation, imaging, tonality and Spacial cues all play a part there.
The HD800 & my ed8 have spoiled me.
They both attained most these aspects at a higher level than my PM1.

That, coupled with the overall tone, wich leans toward a Senn hd650 signature,
Makes it not my cup of tea for an end game can.

And That is what oppo positioned this can to be..
As top level can, not me.
In Doing so, I am more critical and expected more.

I am not saying the hd800 & ed8 are without flaw,
As I feel the hd800 can artificially stretch out the mids, and details detract from musicality.
And the ed8 have more sparkle and pop, yet it is not neutral can as well.

So the PM1 of course have musicality,
But I find my Pro2900 more exciting and better detailed with similar soundstage.

I already have a similar less bright & smooth tonality to the PM1 in my esw11 portable,
so I don't need this flavor.

Many will love the PM1 signature regardless.
To each his own.

I am not one to spoil another's honeymoon phase, as I did have that excitement with these cans the first week.

So keep in mind, regardless of each cans level,
It is simply a matter of choice and if you have the cash,
Then you have 30 days to find that out..



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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

I'll agree with Frank on the burn it. They do need to be cooked for about 50-75 hours. The bass is where I'm hearing the biggest difference after burn in. 
I can agree with burn in.
After the 7th day I did notice slightly nicer (wetter?) bass but that was the only difference for me.

So to sum up, the PM1 have a nice signature flavor,
Which I myself do not find more accurate than an AlphaDog,
Or as sparkling as my ed8,
Or as defined as my hd800,
But then it doesn't have to be.

It only has to be MUSICAL, and this is where I believe oppo succeeded.
It meets any of those in enjoying a musical experience.
Yet at what cost?

My only true gripe is all the extravagance I paid extra for when to me it is not approaching elite can status..
I guess I have to accept the PM1 will be like Ultrasone in that regard.($$$)
Edited by Maxx134 - 5/5/14 at 3:16pm
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Max, are you still in the 30-day return period?

 

I understand how you wouldn't like them much coming from the HD800; they're for a different sort of listener.

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Originally Posted by Maxx134 View Post





My only true gripe is all the extravagance I paid extra for when to me it is not approaching a top can status..
I guess I have to accept the PM1 will be like Ultrasone in that regard.($$$)

It took me over a year to decide between the BDP-105 and the 103.  In the end I chose the BDP-103, and am very happy with it.   I don't believe the PM-1 is for me either.

 

 I'm pretty sure the PM-2 will be similar to the 103 in that regard. I just don't need all of the extra fancy stuff- if I can get 80% of the performance, I will be a happy Head-fier.

post #1701 of 3442

If they can put down sensivity to 92db and remove 100g weight on the magnet with exactly same sound somehow with a more powerful amp... now we are talking about a revolution since ESP-950 is 260g

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For clarity, I am going to revise one point and that is that I do feel they are more musical than the AlphaDog.
Musicality is the strength of this can.
post #1703 of 3442
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Originally Posted by Maxx134 View Post

For clarity, I am going to revise one point and that is that I do feel they are more musical than the AlphaDog.
Musicality is the strength of this can.

Out of respect, and not a challenge, what do you mean 'musical'?  I just spent a few minutes with my AD's, and left off wondering why I am even bothering to look at another set of cans...

post #1704 of 3442
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Originally Posted by Maxx134 View Post

For clarity, I am going to revise one point and that is that I do feel they are more musical than the AlphaDog.
Musicality is the strength of this can.

 

I agree with this. This have finesse but are also fun and musically engaging. 

post #1705 of 3442
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Originally Posted by Maxx134 View Post

For clarity, I am going to revise one point and that is that I do feel they are more musical than the AlphaDog.
Musicality is the strength of this can.


i have the AD also, i find it very musical, i'm not trying to be argumentative at all, i'm curious as well of your reasoning

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I want the best resolution but I HATE added details due to high-mid spikes or drops in frequency response. Since i do electronic music added details is the worst and drops are tricky.  Also sound stage and imaging need to be the best for pro sound work..

 

would you recommend hd-800 versus oppo pm-1

 

i have ESP-950...

 

i think esp-950 are very good for resolution, clarity and flatness but imaging is too much in the head and bass is tight but missing some slam..


Edited by Audiolic - 5/5/14 at 3:29pm
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I definitely would. You can remove what you don't like with help of EQ and/or tubes rolling from HD800 but you can't add what you are missing to PM-1
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Did you ever try the taket h2 plus and stax omega, lamda and esp-950 versus HD800...

 

HD800 + linear eq before dac is interesting..

post #1709 of 3442
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Originally Posted by Audiolic View Post
 

I want the best resolution but I HATE added details due to high-mid spikes or drops in frequency response. Since i do electronic music added details is the worst and drops are tricky.  Also sound stage and imaging need to be the best for pro sound work..

 

would you recommend hd-800 versus oppo pm-1

 

i have ESP-950...

 

i think esp-950 are very good for resolution, clarity and flatness but imaging is too much in the head and bass is tight but missing some slam..

It's VERY hard to get ortho-level of bass slam via HD800 though, you need a massive amount of time and money investment to get just the right setup. I'd stay with planar magnetics (just not necessarily PM1, if you end up finding it to be too smoothed-over for your music preference).

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Originally Posted by swspiers View Post

Out of respect, and not a challenge, what do you mean 'musical'?  I just spent a few minutes with my AD's, and left off wondering why I am even bothering to look at another set of cans...
Good question. Musical..
When you are "tuned in" to the signature of a can,
So as to be able to follow the mood and theme of a song without feeling distracted or lacking in any way from the can..

The AlphaDog had this once you "tune in" but when you are "tuned into" another can of larger proportions or technicalities, then you develop your own "taste" in which you may find a can lacking.

The funny thing is, the more unique a signature of a can, the more you remember it's strengths.

It was easier for me to enjoy the PM1 over the AlphaDog only because the Alpha was the more accurate or linear can, which to me also had less soundstage and bass, but it's trebles were more on point.
If your mind likes the signature of the AlphaDog, then it is for you.
But remember both different music, and also age will make you prefer other choices in future.

I myself preferred Audio Technica sound most in the beginning before I started preferring the Ultrasone and hd800.
I can still enjoy my Audio Technica,
And I feel this is why alot members end up having more than one can,
Because, like enjoying different music, you can enjoy different cans.

You are limiting yourself to try to have just one can.
There is no fabled "perfect can"
There is a reality of many choices,
For different purposes and "seeing" different things.

I hope that answers your question.
Edited by Maxx134 - 5/5/14 at 3:52pm
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