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For me there's a big difference with the bass, now I have the impression that the bass is very very close to the LCD-2 and that wasn't the case at the beginning when I plugged them for the first time.

 

Ooooh, close to lcd2 base? Yummy!! If so there is no way I'd return them.

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 I presume the balanced cable is 4 pin XLR, will it come with a 3 pin adapter?

 

Sorry for the late reply. Was away from my computer all afternoon. There will be no adapter. Just the 4-pin termination to be used with a balanced headphone connection.

 

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Everyone thinking everyone else is a viral marketer these days....


If you are not looking out for them, then you are already one of them.


Good to see Oppo having a presence here on headfi!

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Prepare yourself to be blown away! But don't forget that they need to be burn in first. (I have around 80 hours on my pair and the SQ is still improving)

They really do need some burn in. On first listen I wasn't that impressed... but now that I have had them for a while...I am loving them.  These do have some very nice bass "slam" .. very LCD-2 like... Much better than most other dynamic HPs I have tried.

 

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From my understanding, these sound drastically different from different sources.
Depending on source, these seem like they can sound from warm to fairly neutral.
I suspect this is because of their high sensitivity or very proprietary design.
Most orthodynamics sound similar from various sources IMO, unless severaly underpowered.
So I find this a bit strange.

The consensus on treble that it is smooth and fairly detailed (again, based on source you can get a bit more open or closed sound).
But it is non-fatiguing, never bright and is not the best headphone if you want air or openness.
They are apparently always a pleasure to listen to, however.
I think this is a fair summary.

I have 2 different amps that I tried with the PM-1.  A Questyle CMA 800R, and a Asus Xonar Essence One Muses. Both sound very similar to me with the PM-1.

 

I agree with you summary on the sound. I do find them to be very detailed, and not overly bright. I can listen to them all day. Very comfortable with the velour pads! 

 

For reference, I usually listen at medium low to medium volume. Artists currently on my playlist: Norah Jones, Erin McCarley, Alpha Rev, Ingrid Michaelson, Jillette Johnson, ZZ Ward, Sara Bareilles. 

 

As I stated in previous posts, I have tried the LCD-2;LCD-3. I found the LCD-2/3 both to be a bit too dark for me. I also could not wear them for more than about an hour (comfort issues). To me, the PM-1 don't sound as dark as the LCD-2/3... they just sound "natural" to me. Not too bright, not too dark...just right.

 

I bought these half expecting that I wouldn't really like them, as the other ortho's I have tried all have comfort problems. But I have been pleasantly surprised. I am really enjoying these, and my HD-800s have gone back in the box (and I don't miss them at all!). I bought these initially to try (knowing they had a 30 day return policy), but I am happy to say that I will be keeping mine.


Thanks for this write up - just the description and comparison I was looking for.
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I don't find one difference between 0 hours and the 200+ I had on both betas, the same is holding true for the retail I have with over 100 hours. 

 

Psychological burn-in, sure. My brain needed time to adjust, that's about it.

Sure its only psychological with a planar headphone, or just over time for one's brain to adjust?  

 

If one looks at the HE-400, HE-500, HE-6 threads for example, others make similar observations that they show improved performance after so much burn in.   I seem to notice slight improvements with my own PM-1's as I have used them and revisited content I first used.   :smile:

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Please could you post a picture ASAP so I can arrange for an XLR to Hirose Adapter to match.

 

Thanks

 

I do not have an image of the cable itself, but we are using a standard Neutrik 4-pin balanced XLR head. It will look exactly like this one.

 

EDIT corrected spelling of Neutrik.


Edited by HasturTheYellow - 4/30/14 at 9:50am
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I do not have an image of the cable itself, but we are using a standard Nerutrik 4-pin balanced XLR head. It will look exactly like this one.

 

Please be sure to let us know when it arrives, anxious to try it out.

 

 

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As soon as they are available for public purchase, I will be able to post their availability and purchase link.

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Originally Posted by HiFiAudio View Post
 

Sure its only psychological with a planar headphone, or just over time for one's brain to adjust?  

 

If one looks at the HE-400, HE-500, HE-6 threads for example, others make similar observations that they show improved performance after so much burn in.   I seem to notice slight improvements with my own PM-1's as I have used them and revisited content I first used.   :smile:

 

People say every headphone breaks-in over the course of 100+ hours. That doesn't necessarily mean that it's true. Tyll studied this in the Q701 which many people notoriously stated they hugely changed during burn-in and the results were inconclusive. The changes seemed minute, but it could easily have been the pads breaking in or headphone positioning differences. 

 

Anyway, I haven't experienced any noticed burn-in with any beta or the retail. 

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  • HasturTheYellow, can you tell us something about a release of the pm-1 in europe? Especially germany?
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Unfortunately I can't comment on that since all distribution in Europe is handled by OPPO-Bluray.co.uk. I can only speak about OPPO Digital, Inc which is based in North America.

 

If you have specific questions for OPPO distribution in Europe, I would recommend contacting them directly with their Enquiry Form.

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I do not have an image of the cable itself, but we are using a standard Neutrik 4-pin balanced XLR head. It will look exactly like this one.

EDIT corrected spelling of Neutrik.

Thought you might go for sexy black so took a chance and knocked this up in preparation...

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You probably have more posts in this thread than people that actually have the PM-1!  You keep making comments about what you read in this thread, not by experience with your own impressions!


... which, I believe, is perfectly fine. 

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Originally Posted by tarainfo View Post
 

I use an Ak-240 with Sennheiser HD-600 with a balanced cable made by Moon-audio

That is my basis of comparison

 

I went into an audio store on Tuesday and tried with the Ak240 in singled ended mode with 2 headphones

 

The Sennheiser HD-800 and The Audeze LCD-3

 

I found the Senn 800 very open but not warm  (precise but not all that pleasant to listen to)

I found the LCd-3 quite melodic but a little closed ( like being in a very tightly sealed room)

 

With those two alternatives, I decided I preferred my own headphones for now. . They are not perfect but quite open and quite melodic

 

For those who have heard those headphones, do you think I would like the PM-1 ?

 

I love Oppo products. I've bought everyone since the 83

But headphones is a different thing

 

Of course I could order and return them but maybe one of you can give me advice

 

Thanks in advance


As a long time user of the HD600, I had the same experience after trying the HD800 and LCD-2. I also tried the HD700 and Hifiman HE-500, and liked HE-500 the best, save for a little dip in upper midrange. I was planning to try both the HE-560 and PM-1, and choose the one like. But based on the impressions I read, I think I will find the PM-1 a bit too treble shy for my tastes (compared to the HD-600).

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As a long time user of the HD600, I had the same experience after trying the HD800 and LCD-2. I also tried the HD700 and Hifiman HE-500, and liked HE-500 the best, save for a little dip in upper midrange. I was planning to try both the HE-560 and PM-1, and choose the one like. But based on the impressions I read, I think I will find the PM-1 a bit too treble shy for my tastes (compared to the HD-600).

I don't find the PM-1 to be treble shy when compared to the HD600.  I just put on a few 96/24 tracks to pay more attention to cymbals and could even give the edge to the PM-1 for greater treble definition and extension, but they are at least in the same league.  The response graph perplexes me because I don't hear the treble roll-off that people assume is there (and yes, my hearing has been tested and extends to >16,000 Hz).  I think people really have to listen to these phones before making any assumptions from the graph.

 

Note that my HD600 is actually an HD650 with HD600 driver elements installed.  Amp is a Bryston BHA-1.  Source is a Slim Devices Transporter.

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As a long time user of the HD600, I had the same experience after trying the HD800 and LCD-2. I also tried the HD700 and Hifiman HE-500, and liked HE-500 the best, save for a little dip in upper midrange. I was planning to try both the HE-560 and PM-1, and choose the one like. But based on the impressions I read, I think I will find the PM-1 a bit too treble shy for my tastes (compared to the HD-600).
Actually, I should've said "upper midrange, lower treble", 2KHz-6KHz region to be specific. Most all planars take a dive in that region, but HD600 does not. Very easy to notice once you try a new headphone. I guess it is not very important to people preferring a slightly warmer sound, like the LCD-2 or the HD650. But after listening to the HD600 for over a decade, I hope I won't have to compromise the neutrality that I have become accustomed to.

Actually the neutrality promises at the beginning of the thread attracted me to the OPPO, along with the comfort. Too bad that not everyone agrees on the sound signature, which is, of course, expected. Still, preferences appear to play a larger role on impressions compared to most other headphones for some reason, which, I think is an indication of fanboyism. Not good.

I think I'll try the HE560 first, and if it does not work out as expected, I'll give the PM-1 a try.
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