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Originally Posted by Maxx134 View Post

It's really quite simple.
If you like neutral or soft or heavy cans like LCD then oppo should do.

If you like brighter cans like T1 or hd800 then this not for you unless you want to compliment it and not replace it.

This.

 

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Originally Posted by Maxx134 View Post

I have some findings to post about resolution but I am waiting on my new power supply for more power, to achieve my final results.

 

I am setting up a little experiment on this tonight, feeding a range of amps from Schiit Gungnir.  Will post some impressions.

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Then how about an ETA?
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April showers bring May flowers.

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For the lucky guys that have tried both: OPPO PM-1 vs Audeze LCD-X

 

Imagine you could have only one of these, and you have a very good DAC and AMP that can handle both. Price is also a non-factor.

 

Soundwise, thinking as an audiophile, which one would you choose, and why?

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Could someone compare PM 1 vs HE -500 soundwise , since i see in the graphics a lot of similarities in bass and midrange ?

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Originally Posted by AFWannabe View Post
 

For the lucky guys that have tried both: OPPO PM-1 vs Audeze LCD-X

 

Imagine you could have only one of these, and you have a very good DAC and AMP that can handle both. Price is also a non-factor.

 

Soundwise, thinking as an audiophile, which one would you choose, and why?

 

I've spend a good bit of time with the lcd-x. After I have the pm-1 I'll answer this question. 

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Originally Posted by ssrock64 View Post
 

I think cable combo impressions are valid within this thread, as long as they're in a pairing with the PM-1. Those of us who are cable difference believers would find those impressions useful, and those who aren't (like me) can just ignore those posts move on. The same goes for comparisons to the HD800, and to closed headphones, really. Somebody will find every comparison and impression valuable, since everyone on here has a different frame of reference. My impressions and those of most people who love the PM-1 have come from a preference for a warmer, more euphonic sound signature, but it's good to hear the opinions of others so that we're not just a big hype train.

 

Keep on going with impressions, everyone, no matter what sort of sound you're used to or what changes you believe in. No harm can come of a discussion from different viewpoints.

 

 

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Ooo oppo should make pm2 with wood cups... (!)

Haha You guys should have clicked "buy" in the first ten minutes like me..
Had them so long now I am over the honeymoon phase lol.
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It's really quite simple.
If you like neutral or soft or heavy cans like LCD then oppo should do.

If you like brighter cans like T1 or hd800 then this not for you unless you want to compliment it and not replace it.


I have some findings to post about resolution but I am waiting on my new power supply for more power, to achieve my final results.
Then how about an ETA?
smily_headphones1.gif

At the risk of being told that these cans should not be compared to each other, as someone who owns both the PM-1 as well as the HD800 I have to agree with the comments from ssrock64 and Maxx134 regarding the PM-1.  the comments in bold really sum it up.

 

Out of the box, I was really impressed with the PM-1's sound signature, but I've come to realize that the PM-1 isn't my cup of tea because of the rolled off top end...which really becomes apparent when the two sets of headphones are compared to each other and once I did that, well, it was pretty much over.  

 

While I really like what it does with bass compared to the HD800s, the top end on the PM-1 is too subtle for me.  Granted the HD800s can be a bit too revealing at times (especially with poorly mastered recordings), but I find myself reaching for them more frequently than the Oppos, so I'm going to return them this week.  

 

And while I'm a smart-ass, I'm not a hater, hopefully no one has taken my comments that way. If you like the PM-1s that's great! And I hope folks that don't like the HD800s respect my choice in headphones just I like I respect yours. 

 

cheers!

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April showers bring May flowers.

You have 2 days to release the prisoner. wink.gif
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Originally Posted by AFWannabe View Post

For the lucky guys that have tried both: OPPO PM-1 vs Audeze LCD-X

Imagine you could have only one of these, and you have a very good DAC and AMP that can handle both. Price is also a non-factor.

Soundwise, thinking as an audiophile, which one would you choose, and why?

The LCD-X are very good but to my ears the PM-1 are a little bit more musical and closer to the LCD-3.
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Originally Posted by AFWannabe View Post
 

For the lucky guys that have tried both: OPPO PM-1 vs Audeze LCD-X

 

Imagine you could have only one of these, and you have a very good DAC and AMP that can handle both. Price is also a non-factor.

 

Soundwise, thinking as an audiophile, which one would you choose, and why?

Context: I have an HD800 and am looking for a second headphone that is different but just or almost as good. I had the LCD-X for 30 days and have had the PM-1 since its release. If forced to choose between the two, I would pick the PM-1. The LCD-X was closer to the HD800 in signature, such that I almost never played music that I would not rather hear through the HD800. The mids and bass of the PM-1 provide enough of a difference over the HD800 that I find it appealing for some music or moods. When listening to the PM-1, I'm not always thinking I would rather have the HD800s. That is how I felt with the LCD-X. Of course, it is possible that the discomfort of the LCD-X was subtly influencing my impressions.

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Originally Posted by HasturTheYellow View Post

April showers bring May flowers.

You have 2 days to release the prisoner. wink.gif

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Originally Posted by jerg View Post
 

...Distortion figures look worse than LCD2r2s at least from Tyll's data, impulse looks about the same. PM1s are actually critically damped according to a few ortho aficionados, so a good, succinct impulse response does make sense.

:o2smile: Critically damped is good, in my view.  I'm currently on the hunt for medium-impedance headphones for an Asus® CM1630-06 as upgraded - it packs a XONAR® STX™ - and the reviews I've read as of this post tell me that the STX' Texas Instruments® TP6120A2 can drive the PM-1 OK, making the PM-1 the spoiler in the medium-Z contest.  I've also a second computer that is immediately compatible with the PM-1: a LinUX box packing a Creative Laboratories® SB0350 PCI 2.0 sound card and SB0250 I/O Drive that currently drives a Plantronics® GAMECOM® 380.  Anything that can drive my 380 will also drive the PM-1 (and the PM-2 when it becomes available), and I've no reason to doubt that the PM-1 will run circles around the '380 - orthodynamics have a detail advantage over conventional speakers of the same basic ratings.

 

The SB0250 can immediately take the 6.3mm TRS-to-dual 3.5mm TS cable that Oppo® prepackages with the PM-1, at the Headphone Out jack (which has a volume pot independent of the sound card software).  Should I upgrade to a fully-balanced headphone amplifier in the future, I can fabricate a matching cable.


Edited by bcschmerker4 - 4/28/14 at 8:17pm
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I think what a lot of people neglect when comparing the PM-1 to other TOTL is how easily driven they are. That clearly makes them a great value in comparison to other headphones where people claim to only get them to their potential when spending $2,000 or so, total (including amp/DAC). Some might say that the PM-1 are at a loss because they don't scale, but if they are comparable to the LCD2 and LCD-X without the necessary amplification for them then doesn't that make them an awesome value?

 

Personally I've used them with a Magni as well as other amps and they sound fabulous with whatever I use them with. A clean SS amp is all that is needed to sound great. 

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Originally Posted by keanex View Post

I think what a lot of people neglect when comparing the PM-1 to other TOTL is how easily driven they are. That clearly makes them a great value in comparison to other headphones where people claim to only get them to their potential when spending $2,000 or so, total (including amp/DAC). Some might say that the PM-1 are at a loss because they don't scale, but if they are comparable to the LCD2 and LCD-X without the necessary amplification for them then doesn't that make them an awesome value?

Personally I've used them with a Magni as well as other amps and they sound fabulous with whatever I use them with. A clean SS amp is all that is needed to sound great. 

I was thinking about that earlier today, but if I'm spending over a grand, I'm not really going to worry about how much money I can save on an amp.

This line of reasoning was proposed on the K812 thread too, later in the game after everyone gave up, but this shows more promise.
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Originally Posted by keanex View Post
 

I think what a lot of people neglect when comparing the PM-1 to other TOTL is how easily driven they are. That clearly makes them a great value in comparison to other headphones where people claim to only get them to their potential when spending $2,000 or so, total (including amp/DAC). Some might say that the PM-1 are at a loss because they don't scale, but if they are comparable to the LCD2 and LCD-X without the necessary amplification for them then doesn't that make them an awesome value?

 

Personally I've used them with a Magni as well as other amps and they sound fabulous with whatever I use them with. A clean SS amp is all that is needed to sound great. 

As paradoxical as it may sound, being too easy to reach peak performance (or as some may call it, a lack of scalability) is actually an undesirable trait to many in this hobby. I personally don't care either way, but that's just me.

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I'm a quiet head-fier, but I figured I'd make a post.  (I think this is my 2nd post since I joined in 2011)

 

I ordered mine last week and my cans are scheduled to arrive at my workplace tomorrow!  I'm eager to hear how they sound.  This is actually my first venture into high(er)-end cans.  I've owned several cans in the last decade or so: Shure SRH-750DJ, Audio Technica ATH-M50LE, and finally my Senn HD-650's.

 

I've also got a handful of mainstream in-ear monitors that I own... Klipsch S4, X10, and Ultimate Ears Triplefi10, UE900 that I use.

 

I've been a customer of Oppo's since their first iteration of upconverting DVD transports and so I was intrigued when I first got notification of their headphones in the works.

 

Based on my preference (and my likely already apparent bias) already, I'm setup to enjoy these thoroughly.

 

I come from a very avid home theater background and while I'm a relative newbie to cans, I definitely have a very solid passion for audio nirvana.  My main setup consists of a Denon AVP-A1HDCI pre/pro, D-Sonic M2500-7 amp, Oppo BDP-83 Universal Player, and GR-Research LS9, X-Voce, A/V-1RSx4.  (if anyone even cares! :D).

 

So hopefully, I'll be able to leave some impressions after I listen for a while with my pair to contribute positively to this thread.

 

As an aside, I've been following this thread pretty closely and, despite what some say, found it has been pretty helpful in helping me decide whether or not to pick these cans up and try them for myself.

 

And if you guys have some good suggestions for amps (SS or tube) that won't break the bank, I'm interesting hearing some.  I currently only have a Little Dot MKII+.

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