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post #16 of 64
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I think "this makes no sense". It's like saying "Rolls Royce should decrease the price of their cars by 40% to compete with Audi - they would sell more and therefore make more money". Why would they introduce a flagship product at $1500 when they already have a flagship product at $1500? Not to mention the no doubt massive investment to on R&D to come up with this product that has to be recouped, the product is no doubt very expensive to make, also the costs of distributing it globally, so unless sales would double or treble or quadruple they wouldn't make more money. Not only that I can think of a few thousand people globally that would be mighty pissed if they reduced the price of their flagship product by a third - namely those who paid $1500 for it.

Other than that, great idea smily_headphones1.gifsmily_headphones1.gif

I expect they've more than recouped the money they invested in designing probably every single of their main models, especially HD600 and HD650, with the exceptions of HD700 and HD800. They can charge what they like, but we can call them out for it.
post #17 of 64

If I could find a new HD650 for 300-320, I would buy instantly.

 

It is interesting that the former flagships for AKG and Beyer dropped in price since they have new flagships (K812, T1, etc.).  Yet Senn raised the price on the HD650 didn't they?  And they have the HD700 and HD800 to supersede them.  Makes no sense.

 

$500 retail is ridiculous.

 

 

And I agree with the HD600 and HD650 being the same price.  HD650 was meant to be the successor but it didn't end up being that way.  Build quality, etc. is pretty much the same.  They are really just tuned differently.  HD600 neutral, HD650 coloured.  Pick your preference but the price should be equal.

post #18 of 64

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post #19 of 64
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Breaking news: People wish luxury items were less expensive so they could afford them more easily. 

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I think people simply want a fair price. Do you think selling HD650 for $500 is a fair price or is it gouging the fans? And please don't give me the argument "you don't have to buy it."
post #20 of 64
Sennheiser hasn't lowered their prices in 10 years, what's so different now?
post #21 of 64
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I think people simply want a fair price. Do you think selling HD650 for $500 is a fair price or is it gouging the fans? And please don't give me the argument "you don't have to buy it."

 

How do you judge a fair price? Do you compare cost of production to MSRP? What about the R&D that went into it? Or do you listen to it and make a subjective decision on how much you think it's worth for how much you get?

 

I'm torn on Sennheiser thanks to their "stick a piece of foam in it and charge $150 more for the one without the foam" BS, but considering the HD650 and HD800 are considered standard bearers (the HD650 has been #1 on here for FOREVER), I think if you're gonna claim they're overpriced then you're gonna have to drag everything else down with them: HiFiMan, Audeze, Stax, Grado, Ultrasone, Shure, the whole roster. 

post #22 of 64
Sennheiser doesn't owe you anything. There's nothing unfair about whatever they choose to charge. If they price it wrong, they are the only ones who suffer.

To call it gouging is ridiculous. Price gouging refers to a situation in which a provider of a necessary good charges abnormally high prices for an item in the wake of a disaster, making it harder for people to survive. These are headphones that have been around for a decade, superseded by.a newer model. Not life and death.

If it's too much, buy a competitor's headphone. If the competitor's headphones aren't as good, then the HD650 is clearly worth more money.

They sound at least $500 of good, as is.
post #23 of 64
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Originally Posted by GeneraI View Post

Sennheiser hasn't lowered their prices in 10 years, what's so different now?

It was a problem then too, but charging $400 for a 17 year old model or $500 for a 12 year old one? Really does seem like they're charging more for a name and don't care about the fans.
post #24 of 64
Yes, there is a reason that is. The only way sennheiser would lower the price is if people stopped buying.

Since, the HD600 and HD650 are bought by many, because sennheiser made an affordable flagship for $500. Flagships under $300 would be insane.
post #25 of 64
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It was a problem then too, but charging $400 for a 17 year old model or $500 for a 12 year old one? Really does seem like they're charging more for a name and don't care about the fans.

 

So what you're saying is all models of something, over time, should go down in price, regardless of if they are in current production and subject to periodic updates. 

 

You must really hate cars. 

post #26 of 64
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So what you're saying is all models of something, over time, should go down in price, regardless of if they are in current production and subject to periodic updates. 

You must really hate cars. 

The key phrase is periodic update. There is no update here. So if you want to use the cars analogy (I don't), tell me if you think a new 1997 Accord is worth the same today as a new 2014 Accord and should be priced accordingly. biggrin.gif
post #27 of 64
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Originally Posted by Claritas View Post


The key phrase is periodic update. There is no update here. So if you want to use the cars analogy (I don't), tell me if you think a new 1997 Accord is worth the same today as a new 2014 Accord and should be priced accordingly. biggrin.gif

 

So you actually think the HD650 of today is the exact same product as the original line?

 

Hoo boy...

post #28 of 64
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Originally Posted by SomeGuyDude View Post

So you actually think the HD650 of today is the exact same product as the original line?

Hoo boy...

Apart from changing the screen, prove that it isn't. Even better, show me a number of significant upgrades like the differences between the two Accords.
post #29 of 64
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Apart from changing the screen, prove that it isn't. Even better, show me a number of significant upgrades like the differences between the two Accords.

 

I really don't have the energy for this. You want to keep crying and whining about them being too pricey, don't buy 'em. End of transaction. Lots of people think they're well worth the money, so they DO make the purchase. Clearly the market and Sennheiser have come to an agreement here. 

 

I was just offering some explanation here, but if you're dead set on complaining ad nauseum about the price... have at it. 

post #30 of 64

I'm sure Sennheiser has marketing people whose job is to consider the demand and various costs  in order to set prices that would maximize their profits.  So the prices they are at now is probably already the best case scenario for Sennheiser.

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