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Almost decided - Few questions.

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I have been toying around with getting new headphones for about 6 months now and its been tough. After reviewing a lot of headphones I am considering Philips Fidelio X1's, AKG 702 Anniversary, or one of the Beyerdynamic DT770, 880, 990s. My only problem is that when I find exactly what I like in each headphone I find a flaw that turns me off.

With the Philips Fidelio X1s I have found everything I was looking for but got concerned with the open design:

1. For anyone with these headphones, how is sound isolation? Easy to hear from 10 Feet away? 
 
2. Is there any headphones that have very similar features but feature either a semi-open or closed design?


Uses for the headphones:
A) Gaming on my pc (good soundstage is need) 
B) Playing various genres of music like progressive rock, hip-hop, dance 
C) Watch movies and anime.
 
Preferences: 
A) Good sound stage (such as hearing footsteps in FPS like CS)
B) Fun sounding
C) Comfortable for long hours of use. 
D) No amp required (Use with my phone, laptop, etc.)

These all may seem like tight requirements but maybe the Philips Fidelio X1 fills those and I just need reassurance so I can buy them now and quit making myself go insane trying to buy new headphones. So my final question is this: Which headphones would you suggest with these specifications in mind? 

Thank you to anyone willing to take the time read and respond!  :smile:
 


Edited by Chaosbelow - 4/1/14 at 5:10pm
post #2 of 13

Just for the record, all the headphones you listed, aside from the DT770's are open back.

 

The Philips Fidelio L2's are a semi open design.

 

As far as open design's go, get the X1's. IMO, they are the best sound for the price. A little dark, though, if that's your thing. 

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Originally Posted by halfinfinity View Post
 

Just for the record, all the headphones you listed, aside from the DT770's are open back.

 

The Philips Fidelio L2's are a semi open design.

 

As far as open design's go, get the X1's. IMO, they are the best sound for the price. A little dark, though, if that's your thing. 


Ah sorry, sorta new to higher end headphones. What do you mean by a little dark? What does dark sound like? :D

post #4 of 13

"Dark" refers to headphones that have little or no treble emphasis. The Beyer DT990s are considered to be a bright headphone because of it's treble emphasis. The DT880 is also considered to be bright by some (I don't feel it is particularly bright, but it's definitely not dark), but it has less treble emphasis than the DT990. On the other end of the spectrum, the Sennheiser HD600/650 are considered to be dark sounding headphones.

 

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Originally Posted by Spiral Out View Post
 

"Dark" refers to headphones that have little or no treble emphasis. The Beyer DT990s are considered to be a bright headphone because of it's treble emphasis. The DT880 is also considered to be bright by some (I don't feel it is particularly bright, but it's definitely not dark), but it has less treble emphasis than the DT990. On the other end of the spectrum, the Sennheiser HD600/650 are considered to be dark sounding headphones.

 


Hmm.. I guess I will just have to try them out I suppose. I am gonna do a bit more research in the mean time. Thanks for the info! 

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Hmm.. I guess I will just have to try them out I suppose. I am gonna do a bit more research in the mean time. Thanks for the info! 

There is really no way of knowing what your preference is without trying a few headphones out. I personally do not like dark headphones but many do. It's all down to what sounds best to you. You will figure it out quickly once you start comparing headphones.

post #7 of 13
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Originally Posted by Spiral Out View Post
 

There is really no way of knowing what your preference is without trying a few headphones out. I personally do not like dark headphones but many do. It's all down to what sounds best to you. You will figure it out quickly once you start comparing headphones.


The problem is trying to figure out how to compare headphones. I don't think I have many stores near me that have good headphone setups to test. I live in NY. That being said I could just buy headphones on Amazon and hope I like them a lot. I really should just bite the bullet and buy a pair of headphones already.. 

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Originally Posted by Chaosbelow View Post

1. For anyone with these headphones, how is sound isolation? Easy to hear from 10 Feet away?  

If you want to get an idea about how audible the sound is for an open headphone, take a closed headphone. Turn it up to the volume you listen to. Then take the headphones off your head with the sound still running. That will give you a good idea. smily_headphones1.gif
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2. Is there any headphones that have very similar features but feature either a semi-open or closed design?[/B]


Uses for the headphones:

A) Gaming on my pc (good soundstage is need) 

B) Playing various genres of music like progressive rock, hip-hop, dance 

C) Watch movies and anime.

 

Preferences: 

A) Good sound stage (such as hearing footsteps in FPS like CS)

B) Fun sounding

C) Comfortable for long hours of use. 

D) No amp required (Use with my phone, laptop, etc.)

Your requirements mention nothing about the particular type of sound you want in terms of bass emphasis or neutral. So lots of headphones might fit this, although open headphones will give you the best soundstage.
post #9 of 13
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Originally Posted by Chaosbelow View Post
 


The problem is trying to figure out how to compare headphones. I don't think I have many stores near me that have good headphone setups to test. I live in NY. That being said I could just buy headphones on Amazon and hope I like them a lot. I really should just bite the bullet and buy a pair of headphones already.. 

I know what you mean. There isn't a lot of places to compare headphones where I live either. All of the headphones on your list meet all of your requirements (gaming, music,movies). One major factor that points me towards saying you should get the X1 is that your not going to be using an amp. The DT770/880/990 all really need an amp to sound their best, unless you go with the 32 ohm version. Same goes for the Q701. The X1s you can get away with without having an amp.  That may be the deciding factor.

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Originally Posted by Spiral Out View Post
 

I know what you mean. There isn't a lot of places to compare headphones where I live either. All of the headphones on your list meet all of your requirements (gaming, music,movies). One major factor that points me towards saying you should get the X1 is that your not going to be using an amp. The DT770/880/990 all really need an amp to sound their best, unless you go with the 32 ohm version. Same goes for the Q701. The X1s you can get away with without having an amp.  That may be the deciding factor.


Yeah I'm about 95% sure I am going to get the X1s. I think there may be an audio store not too far from me. I am gonna test what headphones they have if they have any, and probably decide tomorrow!

Thanks so much for the help! =)

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Yeah I'm about 95% sure I am going to get the X1s. I think there may be an audio store not too far from me. I am gonna test what headphones they have if they have any, and probably decide tomorrow!

Thanks so much for the help! =)

Hopefully they have a pair for you to try out. The X1s seem like the right choice to me. If not you can get them from Amazon and send them back if you don't like them. They are very highly regarded headphones, chances are you will enjoy them. I'm glad I could help! :)

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Originally Posted by Chaosbelow View Post
 


Yeah I'm about 95% sure I am going to get the X1s. I think there may be an audio store not too far from me. I am gonna test what headphones they have if they have any, and probably decide tomorrow!

Thanks so much for the help! =)

 

I don't know where you live in NY, but B&H is pretty common, and they have a wide array of headphones.

post #13 of 13
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Originally Posted by halfinfinity View Post
 

 

I don't know where you live in NY, but B&H is pretty common, and they have a wide array of headphones.


They are about like 1 hour from where I am from but I have no easy way to get there unfortunately. I wish I could though. 

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