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post #421 of 793
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Originally Posted by ericp10 View Post
 

I found some Japanese site where AT gave the reviewer an extensive time with the CKR9 and CKR10 (if I can find it again I'll link it in this thread). I know some of you were discussing what does the "R" mean with the CKR series. The reviewer stated that AT told him that the R stands "Reality"...  Interesting. 

 

 

Uhh, AT told everybody that :wink_face:!

post #422 of 793
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Originally Posted by jant71 View Post
 

 

 

Uhh, AT told everybody that :wink_face:!

 

 

lol...Well my statement wasn't meant to be interpreted as if the reviewer got an exclusive. So everybody hasn't seen that ad pic you just posted, because I've seen a few conversations asking what does the "R" mean. lol. But thanks for verifying that for us. lol

post #423 of 793
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Originally Posted by earfonia View Post
 

 

What is your music?

For me, although CKR9 has better dynamic than DUNU DN-1000, my best choice of all the earphones I've ever heard and owned, still DUNU DN-1000 with JVC HA-FXD silicon tips. Better overall sound signature. But ONLY with JVC HA-FXD80 tips, DUNU DN-1000 excels everything I've ever tried.  Placing the DN1000 in the class of Fitear 334 and 335. I prefer natural sound, realistic detail, realistic bass, natural midrange, airy and transparent treble.  So FX850 sound signature not really fitting my sonic preference.  Only for some recordings that sounds good with warm and thick sounding IEM. But again, that's for me, not necessary apply to other.

 

JVC HA-FXD tips can be purchased from Amazon Japan. Item code:

Large: EP-FX8L-B

Medium: EP-FX8M-B

Small: EP-FX8S-B

 

Please note, this JVC tip is 1 mm larger than normal tip. I usually use Large tips, but with JVC tip, I use Medium size.

 

Well, I'm still waiting for my DN-2000, so haven't compared with DN-2K. Maybe it will sounds better than DN-1000 :)

 

 

 

 

Ok seems like d2nk is the likelier choice for me now. Was looking into it for quite a while now. Now I'm just waiting for H20's review and yours too. My sound sigg is pretty much like yours ; natural sounding and realistic bass ofcoz. I used to be a basshead till i heard the kc06 which I still love. Their midrange and treble is spot on for me and bass tight and accurate. Its $60 iem you should give them a try. Although they are not technically able as dn1k in terms of separation and soundstage, they do sound musical and magical lol.

 

For the tips have you tried JVC spiral dotz? Wait you have the fx850 right? You've probably tried them. Compare to these tips (you've recommended) which is better?

Whats you favourite portable source for dn1k?

post #424 of 793
If you like the kc06 sand want better bass and soundstage,, get the kc06A😎
post #425 of 793
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Originally Posted by mochill View Post

If you like the kc06 sand want better bass and soundstage,, get the kc06A😎


wrong thread :)

post #426 of 793
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Originally Posted by ericp10 View Post
 

 

 

lol...Well my statement wasn't meant to be interpreted as if the reviewer got an exclusive. So everybody hasn't seen that ad pic you just posted, because I've seen a few conversations asking what does the "R" mean. lol. But thanks for verifying that for us. lol

Oh you know he was trying to :)

 

A Mr. I got the inside scope guy there indeed :wink_face:

 

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wrong thread :)

Not for the Moch man. It is like there is only one big thread. He is breaking down the walls to expose and shed light where it needs to be shed!

post #427 of 793
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Oh you know he was trying to smily_headphones1.gif

A Mr. I got the inside scope guy there indeed wink_face.gif

Not for the Moch man. It is like there is only one big thread. He is breaking down the walls to expose and shed light where it needs to be shed!
And then quickly hype another phone while forgettig the earlier hype XD
post #428 of 793

Have a 2nd chance to listen to both CKR9 and 10 today, a bit more in depth as well. Now I do agree CKR10 is the more bassy of the two, purely based on quantity. As I have a little more time to compare the two, I realize the reason why I thought the 9 was more bassy is because it has a faster, harder hitting bass that goes down deep. The 10 on the other hand has a slower, smoother bass, but more on quantity and texture rather than speed and depth. I guess in a way, the bass in 10 doesn't sound quite as 'wow' on the first listen.

 

Anyway, also got the chance to compare iM03 and iM04 with the CKR. I thought they all compared very well and at a glance, I won't say the cheaper CKR is inferior to the better iM series. In fact, for purely music enjoyment, I thought I would prefer the CKR.

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That's a great input, thanks ClieOS

post #430 of 793
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Originally Posted by vlenbo View Post


And then quickly hype another phone while forgettig the earlier hype XD

I must say though, I bought the KC06 because of him and you too vlenbo, and it is indeed a surprisingly good IEM especially for $60. I've heard nothing better in this price range. imo the IM70 is still superior when it comes to sound quality alone but then it's double the price :/ 

If the KC06A is indeed more bassy and has better soundstage then it's probably even closer to the IM70, i could only imagine.

 

Anyway.... I just wanted to add a little comment, don't let that put the thread off tracks 

post #431 of 793
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Originally Posted by ClieOS View Post
 

Have a 2nd chance to listen to both CKR9 and 10 today, a bit more in depth as well. Now I do agree CKR10 is the more bassy of the two, purely based on quantity. As I have a little more time to compare the two, I realize the reason why I thought the 9 was more bassy is because it has a faster, harder hitting bass that goes down deep. The 10 on the other hand has a slower, smoother bass, but more on quantity and texture rather than speed and depth. I guess in a way, the bass in 10 doesn't sound quite as 'wow' on the first listen.

 

Anyway, also got the chance to compare iM03 and iM04 with the CKR. I thought they all compared very well and at a glance, I won't say the cheaper CKR is inferior to the better iM series. In fact, for purely music enjoyment, I thought I would prefer the CKR.


Were the CKR noticeable better for stage size/open airiness than the IM's?

post #432 of 793

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Were the CKR noticeable better for stage size/open airiness than the IM's?

Please say yes...

 

please say yes...I know for sure that the im02 soundstage is decent enough, but the ckr9s take it to another level, maybe it is the im03 soundstage style...I hope. :D

 

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I must say though, I bought the KC06 because of him and you too vlenbo, and it is indeed a surprisingly good IEM especially for $60. I've heard nothing better in this price range. imo the IM70 is still superior when it comes to sound quality alone but then it's double the price :/ 

If the KC06A is indeed more bassy and has better soundstage then it's probably even closer to the IM70, i could only imagine.

 

Anyway.... I just wanted to add a little comment, don't let that put the thread off tracks 

Good point, and i'm glad he does hype to the core! :D

 

I'm happy you enjoy the kc06! :) are they mostly musical than analytical? I bet they are, while retaining awesome detail!

 

and true enough, the im70 won't save you a good amount of money if comparing it to the kc06.

post #433 of 793
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Originally Posted by ClieOS View Post
 

Have a 2nd chance to listen to both CKR9 and 10 today, a bit more in depth as well. Now I do agree CKR10 is the more bassy of the two, purely based on quantity. As I have a little more time to compare the two, I realize the reason why I thought the 9 was more bassy is because it has a faster, harder hitting bass that goes down deep. The 10 on the other hand has a slower, smoother bass, but more on quantity and texture rather than speed and depth. I guess in a way, the bass in 10 doesn't sound quite as 'wow' on the first listen.

 

Anyway, also got the chance to compare iM03 and iM04 with the CKR. I thought they all compared very well and at a glance, I won't say the cheaper CKR is inferior to the better iM series. In fact, for purely music enjoyment, I thought I would prefer the CKR.

 

Yes, that's right!  CKR10 is more in quantity, but to me CKR9 is slightly better in bass quality.

CKR9 is really toe tapping... bass quality to me is better than IM03 and IM04 bass.

 

 

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Were the CKR noticeable better for stage size/open airiness than the IM's?

 

I'm afraid not.  CKR10 and IM04 I guess more or less about the same.  IM02 and IM03 slightly better in spaciousness than both CKR9 and CKR10.

CKR9 is for those looking for life-like dynamic, fast and engaging, but unfortunately not really completed with life-like wide and spacious imaging.

post #434 of 793
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Originally Posted by earfonia View Post
 

 

Yes, that's right!  CKR10 is more in quantity, but to me CKR9 is slightly better in bass quality.

CKR9 is really toe tapping... bass quality to me is better than IM03 and IM04 bass.

 

 

 

I'm afraid not.  CKR10 and IM04 I guess more or less about the same.  IM02 and IM03 slightly better in spaciousness than both CKR9 and CKR10.

CKR9 is for those looking for life-like dynamic, fast and engaging, but unfortunately not really completed with life-like wide and spacious imaging.

Sorry, but I would have to disagree with the bolded statement.

 

I'd say that the im02s lose or equal the ckr9s by a small margin, but the height is actually a difference between both, in some songs (like The wild hunt "tallest man on earth), the ckr9s do beat the im02s by a good bit in height, I'd say at least 2-3 levels above the im02s imo. 

 

Some people might not be able to tell the difference, or may think that the ckr9s are congested, but in all honesty, the ckr9s are actually airy, it's only because the thickness of the ckr9s muddles the soundstage a bit. However, once the ears adjust to the thickness, yo uare able to separate the instruments, vocals, and microdettails and can immediately tell how wide and high the soundstage is. For me, the soundstage width in the ckr9s can potentially best the im02s, if not become equals, but height hands down goes to the ckr9s.

 

 

Airiness and detail definitely goes to the im02s, and sometimes, it's even more euphoric than the ckr9s. But the thing is, the im02s are definitely fatiguing compared to the ckr9s at times, which is why I take out the ckr9s more.

 

However, I do enjoy the im02s very much, just like I do with the H3s. 
 


Edited by vlenbo - 5/24/14 at 1:28pm
post #435 of 793
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Good point, and i'm glad he does hype to the core! :D

 

I'm happy you enjoy the kc06! :) are they mostly musical than analytical? I bet they are, while retaining awesome detail!

 

and true enough, the im70 won't save you a good amount of money if comparing it to the kc06.

Yes vlenbo, they are quite musical rather than analytical

If the CKR9/10 sound like these with greater soundstage and detail then they will be very enjoyable to listen to :)

I can only imagine the CKR9 being a nice addition to those who enjoyed the KC06. 

I will eventually get them in time, just gotta wait for the price to come down a bit

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