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post #406 of 793
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Originally Posted by cylpol1 View Post
 

Quick question, does the JVC spiral tips actually improve sound, not just a psychological thing

yes sir.

 

While  I do not have them on possession, it's like saying that every other tip improve sound because of a psychological thing.

 

 

 

these jvc tips must at least improve the stock by a little, the ue900 tips worked on most of my earphones, and I know it would work on these ckr9s as well.

 

I however, will buy jvc tips and test it since my ue900 collection got lost....

 

so the only ones with the tips are the kef m200, and they're falling apart.

post #407 of 793
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Originally Posted by earfonia View Post
 

 

I have tried all the JVC FX650, FX750, and FX850.  And currently have the FX850 at home.

Tonality wise, I prefer FX850.  FX750 a bit too dark for me, too bassy.  FX650 tonality doesn't sound as linear as the big brothers.  So from the 3, FX850 is my favorite.

The CKR tonality is taking different approach than the rather warm and dark sounding JVC FX series.  The CKR sounds more natural, mildly mid-centric, just mildly.  Detail and dynamic, the CKR9 is better than FX850.  CKR9 might be the best IEM for dynamic.  The dynamic of CKR9 is very close to life-like dynamic.

 

FX850 is smooth warm, rather dark, very intimate.  CKR9 is more natural, monitor quality sonic character.  They are very different, so really depend on individual sonic preference.  

I like them both, but if hard pressed to choose, I choose CKR9.

this has bothered me for a while.

 

the ckr9s you say,would require 2-3 db more treble.


Doesn't that mean it's also a bit dark like the fx850 from your perspective?

 

I do find that the ckr9s in some recordings need a bit more sparkle, but it's good for me.

post #408 of 793

@vlenbo What silicone tips besides the ue do you use

post #409 of 793
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Originally Posted by cylpol1 View Post
 

@vlenbo What silicone tips besides the ue do you use

sony hybrids and meleec tips.

 

Widerbore tips help dynamic earphones like the ckr series improve in soundstage width and clarity in most of the frequency spectrum.

 

So in this case, the meleec, jvc tips, and other wide bore tips would work.

post #410 of 793

Thanks!

post #411 of 793
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Originally Posted by vlenbo View Post
 

this has bothered me for a while.

 

the ckr9s you say,would require 2-3 db more treble.


Doesn't that mean it's also a bit dark like the fx850 from your perspective?

 

I do find that the ckr9s in some recordings need a bit more sparkle, but it's good for me.

 

Actually I found the FX850 is even darker than CKR9 :D

IMHO CKR10 and FX850 have roughly about the same level of treble, more or less.  CKR9 is slightly brighter than them.

Depending on the recording.  Those sparkling recording like Stockfisch recordings, no need to add more treble, just nice.

But for classical orchestra and some Chesky recordings, I want more air, so I usually add around 3 dB at 10 kHz onward, starting gently from 7-8 kHz.  I would say CKR9 more or less has similar treble level as IM50.  So no worry about treble level for modern genres, treble are sufficient for those genres.  For classical I prefer something more airy.

 

And don't forget what bro dsnuts suggested, to use Spiral Dot Tips from JVC, it really helps to open up the sound of both CKR9 and CKR10. Item code is JVC EP-FX9M-B.


Edited by earfonia - 5/22/14 at 1:54am
post #412 of 793

Just listened to the CKR7, 9, and 10. The 7 is okay, a little V shaped sound on the bright side. The 9 and 10 are on the warmer and more musical side, where 9 is a bit more bassy and 10 is more neutral. I have the FX850 with me at the time and thought the 9 and 10 compared to the JVC pretty well.

post #413 of 793
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Originally Posted by ClieOS View Post

Just listened to the CKR7, 9, and 10. The 7 is okay, a little V shaped sound on the bright side. The 9 and 10 are on the warmer and more musical side, where 9 is a bit more bassy and 10 is more neutral. I have the FX850 with me at the time and thought the 9 and 10 compared to the JVC pretty well.

Rather different than what i experienced. After around 5 days burn-in, to me CKR10 is bassier than CKR9. CKR9 is more natural from what i heard.
post #414 of 793

earfonia, thanks a lot for comparing GR07 & CKR9. From what I understood, CKR9 has better resolution in treble region than GR07. What about quantity? 

post #415 of 793
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Originally Posted by Max Choiral View Post

earfonia, thanks a lot for comparing GR07 & CKR9. From what I understood, CKR9 has better resolution in treble region than GR07. What about quantity? 

You're welcome!

GR07 BE treble sometime has mild sibilant, while i never heard sibilant on CKR9. So i would say CKR9 treble is much more gentle (lower quantity) than GR07 BE.
post #416 of 793

I found some Japanese site where AT gave the reviewer an extensive time with the CKR9 and CKR10 (if I can find it again I'll link it in this thread). I know some of you were discussing what does the "R" mean with the CKR series. The reviewer stated that AT told him that the R stands "Reality"...  Interesting. 

post #417 of 793
I read that somewhere also
post #418 of 793
It also stands for original reproduction of music, response, and resolution. Hiwever, the most important part of its name is, as eric said,reality.

This interview wouldnt happen to be from phileweb would it? Audiotecgnica posted that interview in their ckr japanese website.
post #419 of 793

Guys this review of ckr9 is interesting..looks like what i am looking for : clarity, sweet midrange, good separation & soundstage. Good vocals.I am aiming for a dap before going into an mid-high end universal iem. Its between x5 or dx90. Which dyou guys think would synergise well with ckr 9?

Out of Ath ckr9 , Ath im02 and dn2k. Which is recommended? I read that ath im02 can get very picky with sources and mayb be too revealing. Dn2k was my choice before reading on ckr9 and fx850 were said that the bass were too strong for some. Even some have claimed them to be dark others said otherwise. If they are dark they wouldnt pair well with fioo x5 would it?

post #420 of 793
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Originally Posted by SyedZ2ez4 View Post
 

Guys this review of ckr9 is interesting..looks like what i am looking for : clarity, sweet midrange, good separation & soundstage. Good vocals.I am aiming for a dap before going into an mid-high end universal iem. Its between x5 or dx90. Which dyou guys think would synergise well with ckr 9?

Out of Ath ckr9 , Ath im02 and dn2k. Which is recommended? I read that ath im02 can get very picky with sources and mayb be too revealing. Dn2k was my choice before reading on ckr9 and fx850 were said that the bass were too strong for some. Even some have claimed them to be dark others said otherwise. If they are dark they wouldnt pair well with fioo x5 would it?

 

What is your music?

For me, although CKR9 has better dynamic than DUNU DN-1000, my best choice of all the earphones I've ever heard and owned, still DUNU DN-1000 with JVC HA-FXD silicon tips. Better overall sound signature. But ONLY with JVC HA-FXD80 tips, DUNU DN-1000 excels everything I've ever tried.  Placing the DN1000 in the class of Fitear 334 and 335. I prefer natural sound, realistic detail, realistic bass, natural midrange, airy and transparent treble.  So FX850 sound signature not really fitting my sonic preference.  Only for some recordings that sounds good with warm and thick sounding IEM. But again, that's for me, not necessary apply to other.

 

JVC HA-FXD tips can be purchased from Amazon Japan. Item code:

Large: EP-FX8L-B

Medium: EP-FX8M-B

Small: EP-FX8S-B

 

Please note, this JVC tip is 1 mm larger than normal tip. I usually use Large tips, but with JVC tip, I use Medium size.

 

Well, I'm still waiting for my DN-2000, so haven't compared with DN-2K. Maybe it will sounds better than DN-1000 :)

 

 

 

 


Edited by earfonia - 5/23/14 at 9:23am
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