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post #391 of 793

Thanks for the review cylpol1.  I should have gone the cheaper route.  

post #392 of 793
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@earfonia


I forgot to ask you something friend.

Out of the ckr lineup, which has the most and least bass?

And speaking of soundstage, do you find the ckr9-10 height amazing as ds,danny. Aand i do?

CKR10 has the biggest bass, but for my sonic preference, CKR9 bass level is better.

Soundstage wise, CKR9 better, more spacious. What I don't really like from CKR10 is the midrange build up that makes it sound rather congested.
Height is ok.

Both are excellent in dynamic, bass and mids detail.
post #393 of 793
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CKR10 has the biggest bass, but for my sonic preference, CKR9 bass level is better.

Soundstage wise, CKR9 better, more spacious. What I don't really like from CKR10 is the midrange build up that makes it sound rather congested.
Height is ok.

Both are excellent in dynamic, bass and mids detail.
Awesome, thanks for sharing that.


So i guess the height isnt similar to that of a mansion's?

Oh well!
post #394 of 793
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CKR10 has the biggest bass, but for my sonic preference, CKR9 bass level is better.

Soundstage wise, CKR9 better, more spacious. What I don't really like from CKR10 is the midrange build up that makes it sound rather congested.
Height is ok.

Both are excellent in dynamic, bass and mids detail.


Oh I don't know if they sound congested. They certainly are more frontal than usual phones but congested is not what I am hearing on my pair.. If the tallness of sound is lesser on the CKR9. I can understand how that can sound more spacious but I like the sound of the CKR10, it is very engaging. Definitely something different that is for certain. They have grown on me big time.

 

I suppose guys that aren't used to forward sounding signatures would find more fault on the CKR10s.. But I have a feeling guys that enjoy FAD earphones especially would dig the CKR10s.


Edited by Dsnuts - 5/21/14 at 10:06pm
post #395 of 793

@DannyBai I forgot to thank you also my bad

post #396 of 793
Imo. I think the ckr9s are pretty great in height and width, but if the ckr10s are better, then that will be amazing!


Ckr9s already beat height against sony h3 imo
post #397 of 793
@cylpol1

Thank you very much for the impressions!


Makes me want to get the ckr5s, but the ckm500s have to go first!

Nice review smily_headphones1.gif
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See to me the word congestion deals with someone having a cold. And we all know what happens when you have a head cold and you try n listen to earphones. It don't work..

 

It has a negative connotation that the earphones are stuffy or lack fines or lack refinement.. It is the design of the earphones. Someone at AT seems to think this is actually a higher end sound vs your standard earphone sound.

 

They seem to think a certain forwardness in sound is actually something rather high end.. Yes perceived clarity is not as good and something that is less forward but I think to understand what the CKR10 is about is to understand what AT is about.

 

Audio Technica makes microphones and studio/ audio equipment for over 55 years for studio recording and they seem to have a love for the human voice.

 

Vocals is what these earphones are about. It brings the human voice to surround you with it. That makes the sound unique and probably not as refined sounding from a traditional stereo sound perspective and that is where the CKR9 perhaps comes into play..

 

Believe me AT guys know exactly what they are trying to do with these phones. These aren't a lesser phone.. Ask an enthusiast that loves the human voice and the artistry of vocals and have them listen to the CKR10s.  Then have them listen to the CKR9s. It will be the opposite of what earfonia is probably saying.

 

Vocals on the CKR10 leave goose bumps on the back of your neck...So earfonia is right in that I doubt these earphones are as versatile a sound as the CKR9 or the lower CKR earphones.. But perhaps they made these with their top engineers to do one thing. And that is to present the human voice in the most haunting and memorable ways.. 

 

In this they have succeeded beyond my wildest imagination what could be possible for the human voice in an earphone..


Edited by Dsnuts - 5/21/14 at 10:03pm
post #399 of 793
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Oh I don't know if they sound congested. They certainly are more frontal than usual phones but congested is not what I am hearing on my pair.. If the tallness of sound is lesser on the CKR9. I can understand how that can sound more spacious but I like the sound of the CKR10, it very engaging. Definitely something different that is for certain. They have grown on me big time.

 

I suppose guys that aren't used to forward sounding signatures would find more fault on the CKR10s.. But I have a feeling guys that enjoy FAD earphones especially would dig the CKR10s.

 

The FAD part caught my attention. How do they compare to the Heaven V?

post #400 of 793

@vlenbo thanks for your help also.


Edited by cylpol1 - 5/22/14 at 12:29am
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You're welcome cylpol1 :D

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These use a 13mm dynamic driver, but these sound quite different from normal $60 dynamic driver iems. Note this was written after a 24hr burn-in. The overal sound is neutral with a slight boost in the lower half. To say these are bass heavy would not be accuarate. I would say these are neutral with a kick in the bass that dynamics are known to have often.

 

Bass: If there is one area that AT excels in, it's the bass. Now your typical dynamic iem will be bass heavy, resulting in muddy and bloated bass. These are not going to stand out and overpower the mids or the highs. For bass lovers who enjoy head-rocking bass iems such as the cks77, these may not be for you. The bass is very noticeable and definitely can be heard, but are not going to completely please those bass heavy Skullcandy lovers. The bass surprisingly for a dynamic driver at $60 is refined. The sub bass has a rare good quality balance that cheap dynamics are not known for. One of the best parts about this is the low end rumble that has nice clarity. The bass on these are just like nothing I have heard from cheaper dynamics.

 
Shout out to Dsnuts for pointing me to these and also thanks to earphonia for his help.

 

Very nice review, thanks!  Haven't tried CKR5 myself, but I have the feeling that it might be better than CKR7 :)

Yes, the CKR series are very impressive in bass.  Not bass quantity, but bass quality.

If you happen to try AT IM50 and IM70, please let us know how's the tonality compared to CKR5. Tx!

post #403 of 793
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Audio Technica makes microphones and studio/ audio equipment for over 55 years for studio recording and they seem to have a love for the human voice.

 

Vocals is what these earphones are about. It brings the human voice to surround you with it. That makes the sound unique and probably not as refined sounding from a traditional stereo sound perspective and that is where the CKR9 perhaps comes into play..

 

Believe me AT guys know exactly what they are trying to do with these phones. These aren't a lesser phone.. Ask an enthusiast that loves the human voice and the artistry of vocals and have them listen to the CKR10s.  Then have them listen to the CKR9s. It will be the opposite of what earfonia is probably saying.

 

Vocals on the CKR10 leave goose bumps on the back of your neck...So earfonia is right in that I doubt these earphones are as versatile a sound as the CKR9 or the lower CKR earphones.. But perhaps they made these with their top engineers to do one thing. And that is to present the human voice in the most haunting and memorable ways.. 

 

In this they have succeeded beyond my wildest imagination what could be possible for the human voice in an earphone..

 

No recordings made equal, in fact their sonic signature varied by a great margin.  So, there must be some recordings that works well with a certain monitor, and simply don't match with the sonic characteristic of other monitor.

 

AT made hundreds, maybe thousands of earphones models.  And in reality, they all sound differently, all have their unique sound signature.  Which one represent AT signature?  No one knows.... so which type of vocal recording match to which model of earphones, is a matter of mix and match, as there is no one vocal recording represent the general vocal recording.

 

As a sound engineer myself, I have my own raw vocal recordings, un-processed, using different mics. They all have differences.  What I can do is to try my best to refer back to the vocal of the singers as I listen directly when they sing.  Although it is also not what is 'heard' by the microphones, since they were placed much closer to the vocalist mouth, than our ears position when the singer sang.

 

What I'm trying to say is, we all hear things differently, and it is simply impossible to agree on everything.

 

Although CKR10 treats vocal in unique way, and it does perform well on vocal, I agree on this, but overall sonic signature is less natural than CKR9.  And imaging wise, CKR9 performs better, meaning more spacious, than CKR10.  At least me, a friend of mine who is also a sound engineer, and also another audiophile friend, we have the same impression.  Maybe brother dsnuts has some recordings that match the characteristic of CKR10 so well, so we experienced it differently.


Edited by earfonia - 5/21/14 at 11:52pm
post #404 of 793
agree to disagree then. :)

I might just get the ckr10s, I want intimacy for sure.

post #405 of 793

Quick question, does the JVC spiral tips actually improve sound, not just a psychological thing

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