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post #376 of 793

I dd get, however, how the little brother can be more enjoyable than the big brother with audio gear. I did enjoy the Sony 7550 much more than the EX1000, and I enjoyed the FXZ100 over the FXZ200. So I don't doubt you when you state that the CKR9 is better to your ears than the CKR10.

post #377 of 793

This CKR thread is a dangerous place I see!

:beerchug:

post #378 of 793

Let me finish up with my burn in and get to know the sound of the CKR10 a bit more before I do some comparisons. I do enjoy them just as much as my FX850.. I can say the FX850 is a safer option because it has a safer tuning over the CKR10s. Meaning I think more guys will like its sound more so than the CKR10s.

 

But for me I tend to keep phones that have a different take on sound more than having similar sounds. And the CKR10 are unique for me and fit well within my collection of phones.  I wouldn't expect AT to make an earphone that sounds the same as the FX850 or visa versa so the collector/enthusiast in me appreciates what AT has done with these earphones.

post #379 of 793
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Okay, I don't know if you answered my refinement question, but I appreciate the effort. :beerchug:

 

If I guess correctly, what you mean by refinement would be how close the sound quality to the natural sound?  If that's correct, CKR9 is closer to natural sound, less colored than CKR10.  CKR10 is more mid-centric.  But people not necessarily always looks for natural sound, sometime we want something colored.  Sometime we want more bass, more clarity, more warmness, etc.  Music is art, it goes well with colors :)

 

CKR9 has better overall clarity than CKR10, and more natural tonal balance.  Only some mild upper mid-range bump that I will mention in my review later.  What important for me is detail.  I consider good level of detail across the frequency spectrum is a must for IEM at this price bracket.  I'm not talking about analytical sound.  Both CKR9 and CKR10 are far from sounding analytical.  While CKR9 has excellent detail from bass to treble, CKR10 although actually has pretty good detail, due to the mid-centric tonality the overall perceived detail is not as clear as CKR9. CKR10 being mid-centric, although not always a bad thing, but comparing CKR9 and CKR10 in rapid succession, when switch to CKR9, I always got the impression of: "ah, now I can see clearer!".

To improve the clarity, The Spiral Dot tip does help, so it is recommended for both CKR9 and CKR10, over the stock tips.

Maybe CKR10 with Spiral Dot tips worth a review :happy_face1:

 

I don't want to exaggerate the differences, because it is relatively not a huge differences.  And they do share some similarities in sound signature, not from a different family kind of differences, but as I mentioned before, given the price difference, when comparing both CKR9 and CKR10, I believe most people will choose CKR9 not only for lower price tag, but also for relatively better sound.  I did that, with 2 of my audiophile friends, they choose CKR9 over CKR10.  CKR10 is a good sounding IEM, but CKR9 sounds better (in reference to natural sound) with better value for the buck.  CKR10 is fine for most modern genres, especially those with sparkly trebles.  Vocal tonality sometime on some recording, slightly better on CKR10, less forward than CKR9, but not by much. For example, for David Roth I prefer CKR10, for Eva Casidy I prefer CKR9.

CKR9 IMHO is a better all-rounder from the 2, with lower price tag. But if anyone purposely looking for a more mid-centric, more intimate kind of sound, CKR10 would be the better choice. :beerchug: 


Edited by earfonia - 5/19/14 at 8:06pm
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Thank you again sir.
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Edited by cylpol1 - 5/19/14 at 11:43pm
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Impressions?
Looking forward to some.
post #383 of 793
I'm going to let them burn in for a day before impressions
post #384 of 793
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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post

This CKR thread is a dangerous place I see!
beerchug.gif
yup....trying to decide between the 9 or 10.
post #385 of 793
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Originally Posted by cylpol1 View Post

I'm going to let them burn in for a day before impressions

 

From my experience with CKR 7-10, they need at least 5 days of burn-in, a full 1 week is recommended.

But if you could share your impression, from out of the box, day1, day2,.. to see how it changes in the burn-in process, that would be very interesting too :)

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Originally Posted by ericp10 View Post

See, I should have stayed away. Decided to join you, vlenbo, on the CKR9 since my boys bros Ds and DannyBai have the CKR10. I'm always down for for the supporting the little brother first (except for my Woodies). So we'll see how this push/pull thing works.

Awesome, youre awesome eric!

I have the same type of belief, thats why i stuck with the ath-ckr9 , thanks to jant.


This sound im hearing from the ckr9 though, is not what i expected, frequency wise.

It should have had loads of,bass, more than the ckr10s, but i feel that is has just as much if not a bit more bass then the mikrps, which is actually.....good enough in amount.


However, heavy bass tracks does sound crazy like the mikros does.

Im pretty sure youll love the heck out of these ckr9s. Tonight further impressions start!

Glad you like them earfonia! I thought youd like the ckr9s,hopefully the ckr10s are to your liking as well.

I dont have that dac combo, unfortunately, but one day ill pair these ckr9s with yulong one day!
Edited by vlenbo - 5/21/14 at 11:14am
post #387 of 793
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Originally Posted by vlenbo View Post


Awesome, youre awesome eric!

I have the same type of belief, thats why i stuck with the ath-ckr9 , thanks to jant.


This sound im hearing from the ckr9 though, is not what i expected, frequency wise.

It should have had loads of,bass, more than the ckr10s, but i feel that is has just as much if not a bit more bass then the mikrps, which is actually.....good enough in amount.


However, heavy bass tracks does sound crazy like the mikros does.

Im pretty sure youll love the heck out of these ckr9s. Tonight impressions start!

Glad you like them earfonia! I thought youd like the ckr9s,hopefully the ckr10s are to your liking as well.

I dont have that dac combo, unfortunately, but one day ill pair these ckr9s with yulong one day!

waiting to see and hear my friend.

post #388 of 793
@earfonia


I forgot to ask you something friend.

Out of the ckr lineup, which has the most and least bass?

And speaking of soundstage, do you find the ckr9-10 height amazing as ds,danny. Aand i do?
Edited by vlenbo - 5/21/14 at 3:40pm
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These are my first impressions of the CKR5. First off this is my first review on head-fi so I will be following how ljokerl in how he reviews iems using the accessories, build quality, isolation, microphonics, comfort, sound, and value format that he uses. Some background information, I will be for the majority of the comparing  these to dynamic iems in the $1-$100 range. I have heard my fair share of these when I first started out getting into iems. I have listened to about 25 of these dynamic iems in this price range. I have heard a few upper end BA's but have not has had nearly he same amount of time on those as dynamics.
Price: $48 from CDJapan
Accessories:(4/5) Has a decent pouch that you have to snap open similar the Monster Turbine pouch that snaps open at the top. 4 sized of eartips and the earphones itself. At this price range this is what is usually expected to come with these headphones. Can't really complain about it. 

Build quality: (4.5/5) It has a nicely reinforced L-jack. At the base of the headphones itself,  there is nice relief there also. The housings themselves are not metal like the upper line of the CKR's but is a nice sturdy plastic that will definitely protect them.The cable is a better quality material than the majority of the headphones in this price range.
Isolation: (4/5) Using the tips that come with the headphones and that this a shallow insert, this isolate surprisingly well. The Isolation on this will depend greatly on the tips. For me the tips fit quite well, but for others, they may need to explore some other ttips. According to other headfiers, the JVC Spiral Dot tips work well with the CKR-line.
Microphonics: (3/5) If there is an area that it struggles in, it would be the cable noise. The lack of a cable cinch makes it to ignore the cable noise. While walking, it is quite prevalent. According to reviews of other headfiers of Audio Technicas iems, this is pretty normal. It is suggested to use these while sitting down.
Comfort: (4.5/5) This sits on the outer part of the ear. There was no fatigue when I wore these for 4 hours straight. Generally regardless of the tips used, these will still sit quite comfortably in the ear.
Sound: Now after reading the ckm500 thread, a majority said that the sound it produced in their price range of $60 msrp  was like no other. These follow in their footsteps. These use a 13mm dynamic driver, but these sound quite different from normal $60 dynamic driver iems. Note this was written after a 24hr burn-in. The overal sound is neutral with a slight boost in the lower half. To say these are bass heavy would not be accuarate. I would say these are neutral with a kick in the bass that dynamics are known to have often.

High: When I first got these out of the box, the highs were quite recessed for some reason, but as i continued to burn them, they are not quite like that as much, but still a little bit recessed. As there are more hours of burn-in on this, it will be a lot more prevalent. The brass stabilizer ring that the CKR5 utilizes, really does the job. A huge issue with cheaper dynamic iems, is the majority of the time sibilance. When I first picked these up, I knew the bass would be up to par but I went in assuming the usual issue of sibilance. I was way wrong. These show no sibilance in the vocals or the highs.There is no sudden spike in treble or the case of hot treble.These impressed me with their extension in the highs. The balance is quite impressive.
Mids: Balance is the key word here. Just impressive. The vocals are very well controlled with no sibilance. The instrument separation is incredible. From the drum kicks to acoustic guitars, these bring each instrument as equally as a dynamic can. The mids on these definitely will give you your bang for your buck and beat other dynamics in the $100 range.

Bass: If there is one area that AT excels in, it's the bass. Now your typical dynamic iem will be bass heavy, resulting in muddy and bloated bass. These are not going to stand out and overpower the mids or the highs. For bass lovers who enjoy head-rocking bass iems such as the cks77, these may not be for you. The bass is very noticeable and definitely can be heard, but are not going to completely please those bass heavy Skullcandy lovers. The bass surprisingly for a dynamic driver at $60 is refined. The sub bass has a rare good quality balance that cheap dynamics are not known for. One of the best parts about this is the low end rumble that has nice clarity. The bass on these are just like nothing I have heard from cheaper dynamics. Now after a 24hr burn, the bass is not totally refined or as tight as expected but there is a good chance that that issue will be fixed after a longer burn in. 
Overall sound (9/10): Definitely very balanced overall, while the soundstaging is not as wide  as some $120 headphones, the balance of these make up for that.
Value: (9.5/10) The balance and nuetrality of these are a major selling point. If you are looking to upgrade to a dynamic iem in $1-$100, these may be for you. These beat out a majority of the dynamics in this range. For $60, these are definitely worth it. Overall, these are very impressive.  
Shout out to Dsnuts for pointing me to these and also thanks to earphonia for his help.


Edited by cylpol1 - 5/21/14 at 5:43pm
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Good stuff. I can't wait to hear my CKR5 Silvers. Also my CKR9s..Thanks to CDjapan delaying my order of my IM03 cables my order of the CKR7 got delayed till next month so I ended up cancelling on that one and reordered the CKR9.

 

Keep them impressions rolling.

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