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post #361 of 793

The sound of the CKR10 is intimate so I can understand what your saying. However I do notice the dynamics tightening with every day of burn in and this has changed the warm presentation of the CKR10 to a much more natural one..I think the CKR10 jives well with the DX90 because of how spacious the dap is in sound.. I suppose synergy comes into play here too but that is interesting the CKR9 seems to be a solid choice for the new CKR line.  Though I have to admit. I find the CKR10 spectacular using my DX90.


Edited by Dsnuts - 5/18/14 at 8:22pm
post #362 of 793
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Right now, the FX850 and TE-05 are the two universals iems that get most of my listening time.

 

My Fostex TE-05 is on the way, hopefully arrive next week. Also waiting for the DUNU DN-2000 to arrive.  Hopefully next month can compare all of them, FX850, TE-05, and The DN-2000 :biggrin:

post #363 of 793

Some thoughts on the CKR7.

 

I've let these burn in for the past 3 or 4 days.  They should be settled by now or getting close.  The overall sound is kind of v-shaped but the midrange isn't necessarily recessed.  The bass and treble sort of steals the show if you're into that type of sound.  Bass is huge and packs a good amount of mid-bass punch.  Thankfully these reach really deep into the sub-bass region.  The bass has excellent control and tightness.  Seems like the CKR series has well tuned bass.  Treble is very sparkly and somewhat peaky.  I hear sibilance with certain tracks and it's not so bad with others.  I would say these aren't as bad as something like the CKN70's and about on par with the CKS1000's for similarities in treble.  Bass really steals the show though.  I don't think any previous AT earphones were this capable in the bass department.  Vocals are somewhat recessed compared to the top and bottom of the frequencies.  My impressions on the vocals could be skewed since I've been spoiled by earphones that do this very well as of late.  The CKR10 for example does vocals very well and is forward.  The somewhat recessed vocals and the occasional sibilance sort of ruins my overall assessment of this earphone.  Staging is quite excellent also.  Sound is wide and somewhat deep.  Instrument separation is quite good but not on the CKR10 level.  Build is top notch.  Housing has more metal than plastic and feels substantial in the hands.  Since I don't have any other AT earphones at the moment except the CKR10's, I can't directly compare but these remind me of the CKM1000's signature but possibly better refinement all around.  

 

Some comparisons with the CKR10.

 

Bass - Very similar and I find the CKR10's bass spectacular.  Differences - CKR10's pack a little more punch, better definition and more quantity 

 

Treble - Big difference.  CKR10's are so much more refined and extended without losing any resolution.  Best AT treble by a long shot.  

 

Vocals - CKR10's are more forward, good mix of thickness and airiness.  CKR7's do not have the thickness and sounds recessed compared.  

 

Staging - CKR7's are wide, CKR10's are wide, deep and has a surround effect.  CKR7's actually sound small compared.  With the CKR10's you can hear all the instruments and place them on the stage sitting about 10 rows back or more.  CKR7's you are placed closer to the stage and everything is more in front of you.  Definition of instruments are more clearly rendered with the CKR10's.  

post #364 of 793

Oh and I forgot to mention. Both Danny and I are using the tips that come with the FX850 by the way. Spiral Dots. I didn't even bother using the stock tips as most AT tips constrain the sound..earfonia.. Try the FX850 tips on the CKR10.. Might surprise you.

post #365 of 793
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Oh and I forgot to mention. Both Danny and I are using the tips that come with the FX850 by the way. Spiral Dots. I didn't even bother using the stock tips as most AT tips constrain the sound..earfonia.. Try the FX850 tips on the CKR10.. Might surprise you.

 

Noted thanks! Will try later.

post #366 of 793
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Oh and I forgot to mention. Both Danny and I are using the tips that come with the FX850 by the way. Spiral Dots. I didn't even bother using the stock tips as most AT tips constrain the sound..earfonia.. Try the FX850 tips on the CKR10.. Might surprise you.

 

Yes, you're right!  The spiral dot tips from FX850 opens up the treble of CKR10, sounds better than the CKR10 stock tips!

Comparing CKR10 with spiral dots, and CKR9 with both stock tips and spiral dots, I still prefer the CKR9, although CKR10 with spiral dots tips sounds pretty good as well for more intimate sound.  CKR9 with stock tips, still has more spacious sound stage compared to CRK10 with spiral dot.  CKR10 has fuller mids than CKR9.  To me CKR9 sounds more natural, but CKR10 also good for those looking for a more intimate sound signature.

post #367 of 793

And this is why I love the CKR10..Vocal music is stupendous on the CKR10. That intimacy and surround effect of the sound is amazing..I did have to get used to that sound signature coming from the FX850, H3 and IM03 but once I adjusted to it.. I wouldn't trade it for nothing. It is awesome. Totally unique to me and I like that a lot. I think it complements the sound of the IM03s more neutral presentation of those phones..

 

In a way I am glad the sound presentation is a bit different from both phones. Gives me an excuse for thinking about getting another CKR phone. Lol.


Edited by Dsnuts - 5/18/14 at 10:11pm
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And this is why I love the CKR10..Vocal music is stupendous on the CKR10. That intimacy and surround effect of the sound is amazing..I did have to get used to that sound signature coming from the FX850, H3 and IM03 but once I adjusted to it.. I wouldn't trade it for nothing. It is awesome. Totally unique to me and I like that a lot. I think it complements the sound of the IM03s more neutral presentation of those phones..

 

In a way I am glad the sound presentation is a bit different from both phones. Gives me an excuse for thinking about getting another CKR phone. Lol.

 

 

So you prefer the CKR10 to the FX850?  Argh I can already feel my wallet getting lighter. I wanted the translucent ref 1 but refuse to pay for the uber cable that makes it a lot better and I'm still on the fence with the noble k10.  So I guess I'm looking at middle tier IEM again even though I want one top of the line IEM soon.  

post #369 of 793

Nope I don't know if I prefer the CKR10 over the FX850 but it is a completely different sound presentation and very worthy of purchase. It is one of the most unique and engaging sounds I have ever heard..I like the CKR10 a lot and depending on preference I can see guys going for one sound over another. 

 

I am glad I don't have to choose as I own both which solves that issue..Every time I listen to my FX850s I can't get enough and I feel the same way with the CKR10s so for me at least it is a toss up. And to make it more complicated. I absolutely love my IM03 as well. 

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And this is why I love the CKR10..Vocal music is stupendous on the CKR10. That intimacy and surround effect of the sound is amazing..I did have to get used to that sound signature coming from the FX850, H3 and IM03 but once I adjusted to it.. I wouldn't trade it for nothing. It is awesome. Totally unique to me and I like that a lot. I think it complements the sound of the IM03s more neutral presentation of those phones..

 

In a way I am glad the sound presentation is a bit different from both phones. Gives me an excuse for thinking about getting another CKR phone. Lol.

 

Now I'm enjoying CKR9 with Spiral Dots tips... and I bet you must be curious of how good it sounds :ksc75smile: 

Man... this spiral dot tip sounds good!!!

 

I think I will order it one day:

 

Large: http://www.amazon.co.jp/JVC-%E4%BA%A4%E6%8F%9B%E7%94%A8%E3%82%A4%E3%83%A4%E3%83%BC%E3%83%94%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B9-L%E3%82%B5%E3%82%A4%E3%82%BA-EP-FX9L-B-%E3%83%96%E3%83%A9%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF/dp/B00JSLXPUE/ref=reg_hu-rd_add_1_dp

 

Medium: http://www.amazon.co.jp/JVC-%E4%BA%A4%E6%8F%9B%E7%94%A8%E3%82%A4%E3%83%A4%E3%83%BC%E3%83%94%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B9-M%E3%82%B5%E3%82%A4%E3%82%BA-EP-FX9M-B-%E3%83%96%E3%83%A9%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF/dp/B00JSLXNOC/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=0E7KNBCV0W1W14A2K4BT

 

Small: http://www.amazon.co.jp/JVC-%E4%BA%A4%E6%8F%9B%E7%94%A8%E3%82%A4%E3%83%A4%E3%83%BC%E3%83%94%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B9-S%E3%82%B5%E3%82%A4%E3%82%BA-EP-FX9S-B-%E3%83%96%E3%83%A9%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF/dp/B00JSLXOLE/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=0E7KNBCV0W1W14A2K4BT


Edited by earfonia - 5/19/14 at 12:40am
post #371 of 793
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Nope I don't know if I prefer the CKR10 over the FX850 but it is a completely different sound presentation and very worthy of purchase. It is one of the most unique and engaging sounds I have ever heard..I like the CKR10 a lot and depending on preference I can see guys going for one sound over another. 

 

I am glad I don't have to choose as I own both which solves that issue..Every time I listen to my FX850s I can't get enough and I feel the same way with the CKR10s so for me at least it is a toss up. And to make it more complicated. I absolutely love my IM03 as well. 

Hey Dsnuts, what would you say that the CKR has that the FX850 doesn't ? vice versa? I'm really split between the two now haha

post #372 of 793
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Hey Dsnuts, what would you say that the CKR has that the FX850 doesn't ? vice versa? I'm really split between the two now haha

 

Let's Dsnuts gives his impression for CKR10.  As for CKR9 compared to FX850, CKR9 has better clarity, detail, and dynamic.  Especially on percussion, CKR9 sounds more realistic and detailed than FX850.  FX850 sounds warmer and more intimate, fatter on mids and bass.

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Let's Dsnuts gives his impression for CKR10.  As for CKR9 compared to FX850, CKR9 has better clarity, detail, and dynamic.  Especially on percussion, CKR9 sounds more realistic and detailed than FX850.  FX850 sounds warmer and more intimate, fatter on mids and bass.

 

How refined is the CKR9, and how close is the refinement of the CKR9 to the refinement of the CKR10. Thank you.

post #374 of 793
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How refined is the CKR9, and how close is the refinement of the CKR9 to the refinement of the CKR10. Thank you.

 

Well, put it this way. From the 3 units I received for about 2 weeks, I'm only interested to review the CKR9, and decided not to review the rest.

CKR10 is not bad, pretty good, and can be enjoyable for certain recordings, especially with spiral dot tips. But compared to CKR9, CKR9 is at least a level above it. So given the price tag, I prefer only to recommend the CKR9 in my review.

 

CKR10 is one level below compared to CKR9 in detail, clarity, sound stage, and tonal balance.  They are in the same level for the awesome dynamic of the push-pull dual drivers.

It is like the ATH-IM03 and ATH-IM04 I reviewed, CKR9 is more natural, while CKR10 has it's owned character, rather mid-centric and more intimate.

post #375 of 793
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Well, put it this way. From the 3 units I received for about 2 weeks, I'm only interested to review the CKR9, and decided not to review the rest.

CKR10 is not bad, pretty good, and can be enjoyable for certain recordings, especially with spiral dot tips. But compared to CKR9, CKR9 is at least a level above it. So given the price tag, I prefer only to recommend the CKR9 in my review.

 

CKR10 is one level below compared to CKR9 in detail, clarity, sound stage, and tonal balance.  They are in the same level for the awesome dynamic of the push-pull dual drivers.

It is like the ATH-IM03 and ATH-IM04 I reviewed, CKR9 is more natural, while CKR10 has it's owned character, rather mid-centric and more intimate.

 

 

Okay, I don't know if you answered my refinement question, but I appreciate the effort. :beerchug:

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