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post #31 of 529
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Originally Posted by jant71 View Post

Okay more fact and less speculation. Listed on the AT Japan site for the CKR are the ER-CKM55 tips. Same as the ones that smoothed and dulled the CKN70 when I had them and on the IM70 and other models. Those same stock tips dulling the high end. So pretty much confirmed. A livelier, and a bit brighter CKR9 should be in there to be brought out.
Thank you for the update!

So they are rehashing those tipa, lol. I hope they improve their tip line one day.



@eric

Thanks for the info! I hope at does a better job at it, especially since the price is double the r3.
post #32 of 529
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Originally Posted by ericp10 View Post

Peeking in.The R3 has two dynamics facing each other as a fyi.

I think the difference between the two is that ckr9/10 uses a singular unit in comparison to the r3/ ohcarakus which uses two separate driver units.
And I'm pretty sure they're not just plain regular drivers. THEY'RE DUAL PHASE PUSH PULL DRIVERS!
I still don't know how it works or what it does though tongue.gif
post #33 of 529

Seems that a big feature of these top CKR is the sound stage size.

 

Mentioned in their own description...

 

"I realize a high response and extensive sound field in φ13mm driver × 2 design of precision.
The two drivers that are precisely placed, won the exact symmetry and high driving force. I can feel the sound field with the expanse with excellent response."

 

 

 

and an early impression so far of that...

 

"This earphone,'s the sound of feeling "like an open headphone" indeed. Where and sound field, spread pulled out or the sound of an individual, is secured to the maximum in the category of earphones, reminiscent of the open-type headphones. It can be said this point is a big personality."

 

 

A truly big size stage is quite important to me so these are on my radar more than some other phones at this point. A more balanced armature like clarity doesn't hurt either :ksc75smile:.

 

 

Sounds like a...


Edited by jant71 - 3/31/14 at 3:48pm
post #34 of 529

Holy moly, reading more impressions about these a little later, nice update jant.

 

I hope those comments were meant for both and not the "flagship" ckr10s, those are great earphones I bet, but I feel that the ckr9s won't be far behind in staging and quality.

 

I wonder if these will have the soundstage of an h3, clarity of the doppios/fostex/im02s, and the bass of the h3s as well, making either the ckr9s or 10s a warm earphone with the quality that it deserves to be in its price bracket.

 

Edit: Nice, phileweb described that with the ckr9s...though the ckr10s are a half step ahead of the ckr9s...

 

I wonder if that's a good difference to justify the price.

 

NICE. I will buy. .....

 

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after it hits $180 in amazon japan. :D 

 

And I will prudently regard the ckr10s first, as they may have a Heavy price drop by accident, just like those fx850s...


Edited by vlenbo - 3/31/14 at 3:48pm
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Holy moly, reading more impressions about these a little later, nice update jant.

And I will prudently regard the ckr10s first, as they may have a Heavy price drop by accident, just like those fx850s...

What happened to the fx850? how much did it drop by ?
post #36 of 529
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What happened to the fx850? how much did it drop by ?

 

At one point it dropped down to about $280 USD (not including shipping forwarder fees) at Amazon Japan. Using Tenso service, it came out to around $300.

post #37 of 529
I'd rather get the fx850 and the sexy new ak480😁
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Edited by kamcok - 4/1/14 at 5:39am
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What happened? The thread stalled already. They are real, no April Fool's joke :smile:!

 

 

 

I like the look of the CKR9 a bit better. The more matte/flat finish all around instead of mixing mirror finish in with flat black. No fingerprint smudges as well.

 

Still think the CKR9 will be a bit more warm and fun and the 10 may go too much towards the upper IM series sound. Still believe in the tip thing working for the CKR9 to brighten them up or keep them on for warmer whilst the 10 might be a smidge too bright with the same tip change or loss some fun or not work as well(just speculation though).

 

Like the CKR9's less obtrusive 12 gram weight vs. the CKR10's 16 grams. A bit easier to disappear in the ear :)

 

With the lower price as well, I'm thinking the 9 maybe have the same IM-02 type value of the range thing going for it. Most likely the one I'm gonna get.


Edited by jant71 - 4/1/14 at 1:19pm
post #40 of 529
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Originally Posted by jant71 View Post
 

What happened? The thread stalled already. They are real, no April Fool's joke :smile:!

 

 

 

I like the look of the CKR9 a bit better. The more matte/flat finish all around instead of mixing mirror finish in with flat black. No fingerprint smudges as well.

 

Still think the CKR9 will be a bit more warm and fun and the 10 may go too much towards the upper IM series sound. Still believe in the tip thing working for the CKR9 to brighten them up or keep them on for warmer whilst the 10 might be a smidge too bright with the same tip change or loss some fun or not work as well(just speculation though).

 

Like the CKR9's less obtrusive 12 gram weight vs. the CKR10's 16 grams. A bit easier to disappear in the ear :)

 

With the lower price as well, I'm thinking the 9 maybe have the same IM-02 type value of the range thing going for it. Most likely the one I'm gonna get.

Totally agreed. At first, the ckr10 appealed to me because of the mirror finish (still does), but the ckr9..look like vanilla looking chocolate pieces you can wear (don't judge, white chocolate lover here).

 

That and the look is more refined. I hope that it does sound warm, but somehow manages to give out great detail like the mikros90! I have a feeling that the bass will be as tight as both the re700s and mikros, but thick like the re700s (the re700s are only marginally thicker than the mikros, but there is a slight difference). The mids should definitely have something similar to the mikros, or at least I hope so, since at doesn't really disappoint with their quality in the mids and highs. :)

 

Your predictions won't be far off though, some impressions go for the ckr10s to be a bit more analytical, but one review said that the ckr10 are only a step ahead better, so maybe...the ckr9s have good round detail that can actually help us adjust the fun amount of bass with the tips as you stated.

 

 

Reading more impressions and posting them when available.

post #41 of 529

Yeah, good point about the mids that I forgot to put in. Hoping/speculating that the CKR9 is the one with the lusher sweeter mids cause they have a bit more warmth. That would be one of the things I think could go wrong(or be less to my liking) with the 10 when changing tips from the stock ones. Of course I trying to factor in my gear and tips in advance and to come out with an end recipe result. Preference as well. Wasn't quite going the FX850 route as far as warmth and weight but thinking the CKR10 might be to far in the other direction thus the CKR9 will be my preferred spot in between. 

 

Also forgot to mention that I like that the 9 has the same bass F.R. rating. Instead of the top being 5Hz and the next model being 7Hz or 8Hz like AT usually do they are the same. It really appears the cable and drivers are no different and the 10 is tweaked a bit for a bit cleaner sound and more treble emphasis with the iron yoke and Titanium which make them heavier and I can tweak with the front filter or tips in the same areas a for more analytical sound but not so much I can do for bass reach so glad the 10 has no apparent edge there from the early impressions.


Edited by jant71 - 4/1/14 at 2:06pm
post #42 of 529

Thank you for that info jant.

 

There's another difference between the ckr9 and 10s. Their L-plug have different quality material, but other than that, it's still the same cable throughout. *ath-ckr9 is plastic with partial aluminum, the ath-ckr10 is mostly aluminum.*

 

I read that the ckr10s have BA based quality, but the ckr9 also have a similar sound, but are tuned a bit differently for people's tastes. The only difference, as you stated, is more bass, thus creating slight, SLIGHT imbalance of the spectrum. The highs may not be as forward because of that, but I bet that it'll be slightly warmer than the im02s, and the im02s are already somewhat warm here, but still has a lot of detail to make it more dry than warm. The ckr9s may have the best of both worlds.

post #43 of 529

Yeah, even another thing I prefer in the CKR9. Don't like the look of the plug of the CKR10 as much with the different finish, more rounded end cap. Only aesthetics as I don't buy what they have been selling here about suppressing unwanted vibration with the plug sheath material. I can use tight fitting firmer tips like the CKP200 tips to get better control of the low end of certain phones cause they do help keep vibration down but this is at/in the ear. The material over an otherwise same size and shape plug does nothing especially with the same cable and strain relief and my player sitting in a pocket most times. Just a bit of marketing. Seems like a bit of a reach there for an extra bullet point which again lends to the impression that these two will be closer in SQ and more about preference.

 

These suckers seem to be all about  the "sound reality" and for the prices they better be. They both only come with a pouch and 4 sizes of the crappy CKM55 tips. Even the $99 CKX9 come with a zip case and Comply tips. Sounds like these drive units and the better cables are costly so they short us on accessories. Fine with me as that could make the price drop faster if it turns some people off. Though I was thinking of grabbing the first pair of the 9 that was $250 shipped. Seems like the street prices will be around $125 for the not in the same league CKR7 and $250 for the CKR9 and $330-ish for the CKR10.

post #44 of 529
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Yeah, even another thing I prefer in the CKR9. Don't like the look of the plug of the CKR10 as much with the different finish, more rounded end cap. Only aesthetics as I don't buy what they have been selling here about suppressing unwanted vibration with the plug sheath material. I can use tight fitting firmer tips like the CKP200 tips to get better control of the low end of certain phones cause they do help keep vibration down but this is at/in the ear. The material over an otherwise same size and shape plug does nothing especially with the same cable and strain relief and my player sitting in a pocket most times. Just a bit of marketing. Seems like a bit of a reach there for an extra bullet point which again lends to the impression that these two will be closer in SQ and more about preference.

 

These suckers seem to be all about  the "sound reality" and for the prices they better be. They both only come with a pouch and 4 sizes of the crappy CKM55 tips. Even the $99 CKX9 come with a zip case and Comply tips. Sounds like these drive units and the better cables are costly so they short us on accessories. Fine with me as that could make the price drop faster if it turns some people off. Though I was thinking of grabbing the first pair of the 9 that was $250 shipped. Seems like the street prices will be around $125 for the not in the same league CKR7 and $250 for the CKR9 and $330-ish for the CKR10.

Of course, audio technica never ceases to surprise their audience with the lackluster accessories, huh?

 

The good thing is though, they may be onto something if the impressionists enjoy these..


I'm insta-buying the ckr9s in that case, or possibly wait for a weird sale to occur in a procession of three weeks.

 

There has to be that magical $170, price reduction that may occur with them, there's just got to be! The fx850 had that type of reduction with its $380 price tag! 

 

That and your prediction makes sense to be honest, if the people do not enjoy the benefits of this $250 price tag, maybe AT will reduce their pricing.

 

On another note, 

 

http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%83%87%E3%82%A3%E3%82%AA%E3%83%86%E3%82%AF%E3%83%8B%E3%82%AB-ATH-CKR9-%E3%82%AB%E3%83%8A%E3%83%AB%E5%9E%8B%E3%82%A4%E3%83%A4%E3%83%9B%E3%83%B3-1-2m%E3%82%B3%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89/dp/B00JFSFEWW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1396576255&sr=8-1&keywords=ath+ckr-9

 

Now they're up in amazon.co.jp for pre-order. Unfortunately, there are no other sellers, and the one that is currently selling these aren't amazon, but it is a start!


Only 22 more days now...

 

I truly expect wonders from this "reality" earphone. Good aluminum quality, solid color choice, build quality should be reminiscent of the ck10 times, the strain relief is a HUGE pro at the moment (though I encourage a removable cable as it seems that its PHAT relief indicates an mmcx connector), and the cable quality of these Iems. Hopefully, the cable will adopt the rubbery smooth trail of the ck10s, just like the es700s did, so it can reduce the microphonics by quite a bit.

 

 

The only question that bothers me is..

 

 

Would these work as over-ears? Would we have to buy a reverse channel adapter? I'm quite picky with this, lol!


Edited by vlenbo - 4/3/14 at 6:58pm
post #45 of 529
If you love the mikros then get the fx850 😎
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