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post #151 of 793
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Since you said that the ckr9 are a bit like the ostriches, i think ill get the kc06 first. I'll see whether to go for the ckr9 from there tongue.gif

Thanks for your impressions vlenbo!
post #152 of 793
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I would burn the snot out of em and see what happens..I bet that sound will open up with better treble. Haven't heard an AT phone yet that didn't improve with burn in. Especially dynamics.

Thanks for the advice dsnuts!

 

I plan to do that after today, these are so euphonic sounding in the bass and mids that I cannot remove them...

 

It's distracting me from my work, which is pretty worrisome.

 

Good thing the only treble problem is the middle treble, other than that this phone is almost perfect. I can hardly wait both your and danny's impressions of the ckr10s.

 

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Since you said that the ckr9 are a bit like the ostriches, i think ill get the kc06 first. I'll see whether to go for the ckr9 from there tongue.gif

Thanks for your impressions vlenbo!
 
no problem! Please tell me if your description of the ostrys match the ckr9s, if it does
 
then you SHOULD get these after you obtain the money and when the ckr9s decrease in value. I swear, these have good isolation, good fit, and actually height and depth to the soundstage, which are pretty much my top priorities. It's pretty wide too actually, sometimes unrealstic wide (since headphones usually go that wide)....which is awesome

Edited by vlenbo - 5/2/14 at 6:20pm
post #153 of 793

Thank you for the impressions and keeping the H3 comparison in mind vlenbo :3

 

I'm definitely very very curious now. So from the sounds of it, it seems you are suggesting that the CKR9 is quite thick overall in character. The H3 is definitely already very euphonic, so it sounds like this is just a tad leaner in that respect?

 

I noticed they seem to have the same double thick cable that the CKM1000 has. Is there also a connection in the middle? (The CKM1000 has a plug in the middle to allow you to plug in your own extension and frankly I hate it because it's so chunky).

post #154 of 793

Damn, and I was hoping their bass would be mostly on the neutral side.

Vlenbo, can you tell me how does ckr9 reproduce fast music?


Edited by Max Choiral - 5/3/14 at 6:53am
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Thanks for the advice dsnuts!

 

I plan to do that after today, these are so euphonic sounding in the bass and mids that I cannot remove them...

 

It's distracting me from my work, which is pretty worrisome.

 

Good thing the only treble problem is the middle treble, other than that this phone is almost perfect. I can hardly wait both your and danny's impressions of the ckr10s.

 

Keep the impressions coming. Euphonic is good! Tall and deep, wide is good as well!

 

How is the front filter material? Always the other potential change like people are doing with the IM50 and IM70. May well be totally reversible again but wouldn't try till one has enough hours on them and familiarity with them. Just curious what the material like in real life.

 

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Thank you for the impressions and keeping the H3 comparison in mind vlenbo :3

 

I'm definitely very very curious now. So from the sounds of it, it seems you are suggesting that the CKR9 is quite thick overall in character. The H3 is definitely already very euphonic, so it sounds like this is just a tad leaner in that respect?

 

I noticed they seem to have the same double thick cable that the CKM1000 has. Is there also a connection in the middle? (The CKM1000 has a plug in the middle to allow you to plug in your own extension and frankly I hate it because it's so chunky).

Tough choice since the H3 is dropping and getting closer to $200 esp. for open box. Shame the CKR cable isn't like the old CK10 which gives the H3 an edge there being seemingly nicer and replaceable.

 

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Damn, and I was hoping their bass would be mostly on the neutral side.

Vlenbo, can you tell me how does ckr9 reproduce fast music?


Umm yeah, that neutral bass thing, that is what the IM series is for :wink_face: .

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Umm yeah, that neutral bass thing, that is what the IM series is for :wink_face: .

Nah, I want a "dynamic" neutral bass :P. I'm more addicted to the sound of dynamic drivers.

In addition, there is no possibility for now to audition IM-03. And the price is not so cheap for ordering it without preliminary listening.

post #157 of 793

That's why AT uses armature drivers cause with dynamic they really don't do neutral. Even the IM50 and IM70, though in the monitors series, are fairly bassy and not bass neutral. if it's AT, and has large drivers(12.5mm, 13mm, 14mm), it is not going to be neutral. How far off might the CKR10 be and if you can tweak it to be more neutral we will hear pretty soon. 

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That's why AT uses armature drivers cause with dynamic they really don't do neutral. Even the IM50 and IM70, though in the monitors series, are fairly bassy and not bass neutral. if it's AT, and has large drivers(12.5mm, 13mm, 14mm), it is not going to be neutral. How far off might the CKR10 be and if you can tweak it to be more neutral we will hear pretty soon. 

Seems so. And here I was hoping to find smth that can replace my full sized cans for portable use. Pretty tough task.

As for IEMs, those impedance issues driving me crazy. It's really pain in the ass matching them with the source, especially mine, which has 12 Ohm output impedance:mad:

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Tough choice since the H3 is dropping and getting closer to $200 esp. for open box. Shame the CKR cable isn't like the old CK10 which gives the H3 an edge there being seemingly nicer and replaceable.

 

Where would you find a H3 for near $200? :0

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Where would you find a H3 for near $200? :0

Amazon US has it for 239$

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Amazon US has it for 239$

 

My my my my. Geez I might just take that offer unless anyone else has any brighter ideas...

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My my my my. Geez I might just take that offer unless anyone else has any brighter ideas...
don't hesitate to buy it!

At the current price of $240, the sony xba-h3s are worth it over these ckr9s.

I have conpleted a half hours worth of comparo, and i state that the h-3s has the most visceral bass quality that other earphones cannot match, not even the ckr9s. However, the ckr9s bass isnt that smooth and prominent with its bass like the h-3s, and it sounds more defined, sharper, and clearer than the h3s.

The mids of the h3s are smoother than the ckr9s and amazingly, more cleaner and clearer than the ckr9s, though it actually isnt a huge difference in clarity sibce they are both almost neck to neck with the voice clarity. The most discernable quality difference is through violin string playing, but thats it.

The highs are perfect in the h3 bexause it lacks the middle treble muddle that the ckr9s have, otherwise, they both are pretty sinilar in detail. The h3s have thicker treble presentation, smoother and more refined treble (along with the mids) and a similar if not same soundstage as the ckr9s.


Now if the sonys were 350, you should just save money on the ckr9s.

Also, i didnt forget about your questions pertaining to the design of the ckr9s, but i need some time to eat first, brb
Edited by vlenbo - 5/3/14 at 5:19pm
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don't hesitate to buy it!

At the current price of $240, the sony xba-h3s are worth it over these ckr9s.

I have conpleted a half hours worth of comparo, and i state that the h-3s has the most visceral bass quality that other earphones cannot match, not even the ckr9s. However, the ckr9s bass isnt that smooth and prominent with its bass like the h-3s, and it sounds more defined, sharper, and clearer than the h3s.

The mids of the h3s are smoother than the ckr9s and amazingly, more cleaner and clearer than the ckr9s, though it actually isnt a huge difference in clarity sibce they are both almost neck to neck with the voice clarity. The most discernable quality difference is through violin string playing, but thats it.

The highs are perfect in the h3 bexause it lacks the middle treble muddle that the ckr9s have, otherwise, they both are pretty sinilar in detail. The h3s have thicker treble presentation, smoother and more refined treble (along with the mids) and a similar if not same soundstage as the ckr9s.


Now if the sonys were 350, you should just save money on the ckr9s.

+1 on the H3 at that price.... 

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The problem is that Amazon won't ship the H3 to Australia, which means I must use a mail forwarding service, and once currency exchange is taken into account it starts looking like less of a great deal compared to some of the offers I've been getting for used units. Ughhh dilemma.

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The problem is that Amazon won't ship the H3 to Australia, which means I must use a mail forwarding service, and once currency exchange is taken into account it starts looking like less of a great deal compared to some of the offers I've been getting for used units. Ughhh dilemma.

Reliable used units are even better, at least in your case, dont hesitate, just aim for it!

Youll never regret it.

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Thank you for the impressions and keeping the H3 comparison in mind vlenbo :3

I'm definitely very very curious now. So from the sounds of it, it seems you are suggesting that the CKR9 is quite thick overall in character. The H3 is definitely already very euphonic, so it sounds like this is just a tad leaner in that respect?

I noticed they seem to have the same double thick cable that the CKM1000 has. Is there also a connection in the middle? (The CKM1000 has a plug in the middle to allow you to plug in your own extension and frankly I hate it because it's so chunky).


and to respond, you're welcome smily_headphones1.gif anything to help an indecisive consumer.

If I hadn't bought the sonys, i'd be in the same predicament.

Now, from what you assume form my impressions is correct. It is only a tad leaner to be honest, yet, it is still thick enough to have the nice intoxicating taste that the sony xba-h3s. I say that both the sony xba-h3 and the audio technica ckr9 mid and high signatures are similar, very similar. The sony's has a more captivating mids and highs, but I am happy to report that the ckr9s ONLY lack a bit of finesse and clarity/refinement. However, it's not that big of a discrepancy to purchase the xba-h3s over these beautiful iems (unless you have a great used sale or deal).

The bass quality is phenomenal, it competes against the h-3s and is tighter than the h3s in some circumstances.

You definitely should share a bit of your preference.

Do you enjoy thicker bass? The sonys. Do you LOVE SOFT BASS THAT SOUNDS OMG AMAZING? the sonys

Do you enjoy sporadic bass? (sometimes the bass on the ckr9s changes on recording. Sometimes it is APART from the rest of the sound signature. I literally mean it. If you hear some music, you'll notice that the bass sometimes stands out through size and thickness.

Here's an example.



O <--- Sometimes, depending on recordings, the bass size is actually this circle.


It sometimes finds itself near the left center of the soundstage, sometimes above the singer, below, or even on the very left of the soundstage.

Every other instrument engulfs the bass, but its articulate detail helps you separate the sounds and ENJOY THE HECK OUT OF THIS!


O


And in some songs, it sounds like the above....

So if you want consistency, take the h-3s, though they also change on recording, it doesn't sound...I guess you could say weird, but in an AWESOME WAY. It's so tight no matter how big the bass represents itself in the ckrs.

Now, the highs are tough, the sony xba-h3's treble has a lot of sparkle to it, but it does so frugally. The ckr9s are a bit more frugal in its treble, but sometimes on recordings, it has the same exact sound as the sony xba-h3s (except for some that has emphasis on the middle treble).

The soundstage as I stated before, are actually identically almost. That's only with the limited library on my phone. I'm on the pc right now and will evaluate it before I sleep. Be rest assured Lachlan, you will have fun reading my late night impressions because I HAVE SO MUCH TO SAY!!!!

These ckrs continue to impress me, their soft signature makes me want to cry because it's so SO musical, just like the sonys to be honest. Yet, it has a similar amount of detail as the hybrid sonys for a cheaper price to boot!


The ostrys are probably the best competitor out there though, once I get my SWEATY hands on them, then....

then...


you guys will probably buy the ostries, lol. For now though, I'm hyping the heck out of the ckr9s for their price/performance against other flagships.
Edited by vlenbo - 5/3/14 at 7:07pm
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