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post #166 of 4329
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Originally Posted by maguire View Post
 

I have Toxic Cables SW & Virus but I did not try them when I had the 1plus2 on the Aussie tour, as we were having difficulties with the cable coming loose & I did not want to aggrivate the situation any more....Great Ocean Road is awesome, pity we have not been having some good weather. Bit like the Uber cable & sunny days .....only 60% of its potential......

 

I had the Virus and tried it on 1plus2. And I actually preferred it to the silver/gold cable!

 

Anyway, will have a Toxic Cable Venom for iem, a solid silver core (first ever venom for iem created!) in a few weeks time... would love to use it on the ref 1!


Edited by angelsblood - 5/4/14 at 6:43am
post #167 of 4329
Sounds Uber to me too... Uber expensive. $1650 I could deal with, but dropping $1350 on that cable too... ouch.

I was reading about that cable, is it really that fragile? Besides price, being fragile would definitely be a problem for me.
post #168 of 4329
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Originally Posted by warrior1975 View Post

Sounds Uber to me too... Uber expensive. $1650 I could deal with, but dropping $1350 on that cable too... ouch.

I was reading about that cable, is it really that fragile? Besides price, being fragile would definitely be a problem for me.

It's not about fragility.  As the Uber is made of solid core and thus not able to twist and turn like normal cable and it has to be looped in the same direction.  Yes, it is not recommended to bring it outdoor and you have to take good care of it while using.  I had its outing the first time last week during my trip to Australia and it worked great on the plane and while in hotel.  

 

After acquired the Uber I seldom use the Tralucent Silver as the lost in performance is substantial.

post #169 of 4329
Thanks for the clarification. For me, unfortunately that wont be a good fit. I spend more of my time either at work or being very active. I probably only listen at home for maybe an hour at night.
Edited by warrior1975 - 5/4/14 at 7:17am
post #170 of 4329

That Toxic Cable Venom Sounds like a real winner...

post #171 of 4329
I am getting it for sure...no way I will miss Gavin's latest baby. Just wish he did customs because I love the isolation. However his architecture would not work on customs as I understand it.
post #172 of 4329
SF,

How do the Ref 1 IEMs compare with the FitEar TG334?
post #173 of 4329
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Originally Posted by sathyam View Post

SF,

How do the Ref 1 IEMs compare with the FitEar TG334?

Tralucent 1p2 and TG334 have totally different sound signature according what I've read on the forum. Since Ref 1 seems like an upgraded version of 1p2, I don't think there would be a simple comparison between Ref 1 and TG334. According to my experience, 1p2 provides larger soundstage while the vocals on 334 sound more closer. It's my opinion.

post #174 of 4329
Yeah ditto on the 1p2 v. 334. I'm thinkin the isobaric drivers will likely hit harder, faster and deeper (hyuk hyuk) than the 334. I suppose the one thing I'm curious of is how the mids on the REF will stack up to the 334 since they're supposed to be fuller than the 1p2. I'm thinkin that the REF will fair better in treble extension vs. the 334 as well.
I'm really curious what type of BA drivers Tralucent has sourced for the REF and how they sound tonally, as I wasn't especially fond of the treble on the 1p2

And I don't believe SF has heard the 334. I offered to lend it to him awhile back, but he felt comfortable with his Heaven VI as his "go to" mids phone. He has heard the ASG-2 which is comparable to the REF, so you can likely extrapolate on his impressions in regards to the REF v. 334 in his second REF 1 post
post #175 of 4329
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Originally Posted by sathyam View Post

SF,

How do the Ref 1 IEMs compare with the FitEar TG334?

 

 

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Originally Posted by yilun View Post
 

Tralucent 1p2 and TG334 have totally different sound signature according what I've read on the forum. Since Ref 1 seems like an upgraded version of 1p2, I don't think there would be a simple comparison between Ref 1 and TG334. According to my experience, 1p2 provides larger soundstage while the vocals on 334 sound more closer. It's my opinion.

 

Indeed the TG334 and 1plus2 have very different sounds. Idsynch is right though, I have not heard the 334. More on that in a sec. 

 

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Originally Posted by SoundFreaq View Post
 

 

I am not going to stand here and say this is the obvious upgrade from the 1plus2. It's not. 

 

In fact, you should forget the 1plus2 right now. I know it is clearly the inescapable, yet necessary comparison to make, and as such I will compare it to the 1plus2 extensively. Perhaps more-so to showcase their differences The Ref. 1, and 1plus2 are decidedly not the same earphone. If you're wanting an "upgrade" to the 1plus2, this is not it. That is also not to say that these are not a hallmark release, because it is.

 

 

 

I wanted to ensure that the Ref. 1 was not considered an "upgrade" to the 1plus2. they don't have the same sounds. Is the Ref. 1 more refined? Yes. Do I personally like it better? Yes. But the two earphones are too different for the Ref. 1 to be an upgrade to the 1plus2. That would imply that they sound mostly the same, but the Ref. 1 takes that sound of the 1plus2 to the next level. I do believe the Ref. 1 to be a next level, but it's not the 1plus2 sound. It's a whole new world of Tralucent awesomeness to explore, and I think that's more fun!

 

 

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Originally Posted by Idsynchrono_24 View Post

Yeah ditto on the 1p2 v. 334. I'm thinkin the isobaric drivers will likely hit harder, faster and deeper (hyuk hyuk) than the 334. I suppose the one thing I'm curious of is how the mids on the REF will stack up to the 334 since they're supposed to be fuller than the 1p2. I'm thinkin that the REF will fair better in treble extension vs. the 334 as well.
I'm really curious what type of BA drivers Tralucent has sourced for the REF and how they sound tonally, as I wasn't especially fond of the treble on the 1p2

And I don't believe SF has heard the 334. I offered to lend it to him awhile back, but he felt comfortable with his Heaven VI as his "go to" mids phone. He has heard the ASG-2 which is comparable to the REF, so you can likely extrapolate on his impressions in regards to the REF v. 334 in his second REF 1 post

 

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Originally Posted by SoundFreaq View Post

 

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I would say it's the best part of the earphone.  But then...

 

There's the magical mids. Yes, I'm going to go ahead and throw out "magical." A little background: I love the Final Audio Design lush and euphonic midranges for a special treat. The FAD devices are not neutral in any way, but they hold a special quality that makes them sound unlike anything else on the market. But also consider I did not fall in love with the ASG-2. While it had a thick and lush midrange to me, it seemed to lack an organic sense. 

 

Compared to the 1plus2, the Ref. 1's midrange is much more robust, full-bodied, natural and organic sounding. With an excellent and natural timbre on vocals and violins alike. They bring depth and magic without losing a reference quality. I love the mids here. While similar in description perhaps to the ASG-2, these mids sound so much more effortless and natural while preserving the euphony. It's magic. 

 

 

 

 

The ASG-2 and the TG334 gained popularity around the same time. I heard the ASG-2, and read quite a bit on the 334, and many G-2/334 comparisons. 

 

I think vilun is right, it wouldn't be a simple comparison. I can fairly easily deduct the same things vilun mentioned. I believe the Ref. 1's soundstage will eat the 334 for breakfast. As a result of this, I think the 334's vocal presentation is a bit more intimate, with vocals closer in. But again, don't keep the 1plus2 projected soundstage in your head, for the Ref. 1 is just as large, but fills in all that space between you and the far edges. So it has a remarkable quality to be intimate with huge scale. It's really something to hear. There's a lot more room in the space for instruments, lending to a more open, and effortless sound. 

post #176 of 4329

Awe Soundfreaq....You making us salivate.......

post #177 of 4329
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Originally Posted by maguire View Post
 

Awe Soundfreaq....You making us salivate.......

If only they would make CIEM's.

post #178 of 4329
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Originally Posted by yilun View Post
 

If only they would make CIEM's.

 

After extensive experiences with both universal and custom offerings, I am thrilled Tralucent is focusing on the universal market. Overall, I feel like I had a positive CIEM experience, and it was still a pain in the ars. Throw in zilch resale value when your preferences inevitably change, the crap-shoot of them fitting right, and things like weight-loss ruining the fit... no thanks!

post #179 of 4329
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Originally Posted by SoundFreaq View Post
 

 

After extensive experiences with both universal and custom offerings, I am thrilled Tralucent is focusing on the universal market. Overall, I feel like I had a positive CIEM experience, and it was still a pain in the ars. Throw in zilch resale value when your preferences inevitably change, the crap-shoot of them fitting right, and things like weight-loss ruining the fit... no thanks!

 

I totally agree with this sentiment. I have the MG6Pro custom, and you cannot reshell without destroying the dynamic driver it is produced around. So that truly has Zilch resale value. It's basically just a paperweight at this point (unless by some stroke of miracles they manage to completely overhaul their house sound with a next driver update-- as current owners can upgrade to the new driver model for $250). 

 

Also, I have been totally enjoying this crop of high end universals which are closer to custom IEM sound... from the TG334 (which I owned and loved for a whole year and a half; such a duration has never happened for me before that), to the FA-4E (an amazing IEM for about $500), to the SE846 now. 

post #180 of 4329
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Originally Posted by kkcc View Post


Yup my impression of the AK rox is definitely not inline with my expectations from reading initial impressions. The biggest surprise is the lack of transparency against jh13fp or jh16fp. It sounded full but just feel too congested. Soundstage is way narrower than 1plus2 (but then again nothing except ex1000 comes close). I will try to demo another pair to make sure it is not some issue with this particular demo unit but I do see a few others posting similar impression for the universal rox....


Your description of the Roxanne is just how I heard it, including the lack of transparency versus the jh13fp and jh16fp. So, I don't think you had a faulty demo unit.

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