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post #61 of 204
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Originally Posted by Edwood View Post
 


I was using it because the HE6 OCC cable has a 4 pin connector to use with the EF-6 amp, but I'll certainly try the Stock Cable.

I'm pretty sure the 4pin out on EF6 is only for convenience (since HE6 ships with an XLR cable), not for sound (it is imbalanced). So it should be equivalent to the 6.5''.

post #62 of 204
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They definitely should, they fit my HE-6. 

 

 

great, thank you. 

I'm a bit mad since I've bought the HE-400 less than 3 weeks ago.
I really like how they sound but comfort-wise there's room for improvement..which apparently is one of the areas hifiman addressed. Hopefully the new pads will suffice and I won't need to "upgrade"

again :)

post #63 of 204
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Originally Posted by Canadian411 View Post

Can you please tell me

1. What is the radius of the inner earcup space
2. and if earpads are glued like Audeze/UE8 ?

Thanks in advance.


They're easily removable and replaced, as they're held in place by 4 tabs, so they snap into place.  Requires a bit of flexing and maneuvering to get them in place.

post #64 of 204
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They're easily removable and replaced, as they're held in place by 4 tabs, so they snap into place.  Requires a bit of flexing and maneuvering to get them in place.


They haven't changed the plastic tab design at all on the 560/400i? Yikes I was hoping they would make that more durable
post #65 of 204

From my experience, the tabs are plenty durable and once you get the hang of it, it is a pretty good system IMO.

post #66 of 204
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From my experience, the tabs are plenty durable and once you get the hang of it, it is a pretty good system IMO.

 

Agreed. The old Hifiman pads were pretty flimsy, but the ones on the HE-400/HE-500 are quite durable. I'm quite forceful when swapping pads around and they hold up well.

post #67 of 204
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Yeah, the old clear plastic tabbed ones were horrible.  The newer black molded plastic ones are much better.

post #68 of 204
the HE-4's plastic tabs are the worst things EVAR. Still, a shame that it's velour was so good.. but the pads weren't attachable to the newer models... or were they?
post #69 of 204
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Just heard from HiFiMan, the new ear pads will be sold separately.

 

Trying to confirm if the leather material is PU Leather or not.

post #70 of 204
I'm sure it's pleather, but that's not a problem if it's not touching the skin. smily_headphones1.gif
post #71 of 204
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I'm sure it's pleather, but that's not a problem if it's not touching the skin. smily_headphones1.gif

 

Yeah, it's not touching the skin.  PU Leather is a bicast material, so it's cheap split leather backing with a layer of polyurethane over it.   It's softer and more lambskin like than entirely synthetic "Pleather."

post #72 of 204
Is it just me but HE560 earpads look bit smaller like Audiotechnica series.
Most of AudioTechnica headphones are on-ear headphones, not an over-ear as they state.

Can someone measure the radius/diameter of the inner pads ?

Thanks !
post #73 of 204
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Originally Posted by Canadian411 View Post

Is it just me but HE560 earpads look bit smaller like Audiotechnica series.
Most of AudioTechnica headphones are on-ear headphones, not an over-ear as they state.

Can someone measure the radius/diameter of the inner pads ?

Thanks !

+1, Yeah, that's kind of a big deal for me too :D

post #74 of 204
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Originally Posted by Canadian411 View Post

Is it just me but HE560 earpads look bit smaller like Audiotechnica series.
Most of AudioTechnica headphones are on-ear headphones, not an over-ear as they state.

Can someone measure the radius/diameter of the inner pads ?

Thanks !

 

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Originally Posted by conquerator2 View Post
 

+1, Yeah, that's kind of a big deal for me too :D

 

It's just you.  The cups are the same size as the previous series, as evidenced by the pads being interchangeable / based on the Jergpad mods.  The radius/diameter of the inside is massive and easily provides ample clearance for ear cartilage as long as you don't have Dumbo ears.  Seems like you both already had the HE6 at some point, so just use that as your point of reference.

post #75 of 204
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What about those Head-fi review pages with multiple reviews along with star rating? They (head-fi mods) could just put the reviews there...

 

I always put a copy of my review there in the products section, but the most visited threads on the subject are often a good place for a copy of the review or for a link to the review.

 

HERE ARE MY HE-560 INITIAL IMPRESSIONS (before my full review which I'll post in it's own thread): 

 

I probably won't post much more after this about them until I've had several intensive listening sessions with the HE-560 for my review, which will include these comments below.

 

I received the HE-560 today, and plugged them into my Nuforce CDP-8 > PWD Mk2 coax > ZDT amp right away.  I was impressed right away in the first 5 minutes. Again, the following was with just a 60 second listen with 5 or 6 songs off the CD player before heading out the door tonight.  I'll need to spend many days with them to get a more accurate idea of how they perform.

 

My initial thoughts about them when I put on the HE-560 to listen were (1) spacious (2) detailed and crisp (3) fast.  I'd say that my 1st thought was actually on the soundstage, where the HE-560 reminded me a little of my HE-60 - the sound seemed to come from everywhere except the ear cups. I need to listen more to see if they have a somewhat more vague & wide imaging and/or placement of instruments, there just wasn't time tonight. The HE-5 had that issue with imaging which was improved with the HE-5LE and then HE-500, but the others never had this large of a head-stage.  Their soundstage may very well belong in the elite group with HD800, SR-009, and HE-60.

 

I can say that they are not as forward sounding as the HE-500, and they sound more light and airy or delicate than my HE-500 which sound a little more rich and organic at times. Maybe the description would be, they have more finesse and speed (like a stat) than the HE-500.  This probably brings them closer to the HE-6 (which I did not compare to yet tonight).  PRAT is excellent.

 

From this brief exposure I'd say they are fairly well balanced sounding, as far as frequency response goes. Bass is tight and fast, mids are crisp and clear, and treble for me was sparkly or plucky.  You could almost believe the guitar was in the room with you.  With my 52 year old ears I won't know if they are more or less extended in the treble than the HE-500 or HE-6 though, even when I compare them side by side later with test tones and music.  They may still turn out to be a little more dry and analytical than my HE-6 when I compare them later, but they were just as smooth and grain free during my brief listen. 

 

The 560's disappear pretty quickly, physically and audibly, due to excellent transparency, out of head projection, and light weight. Comfort is improved with the ear pads being more like the HE-60 pads, and due to the big drop in weight vs all of my other orthodynamics (although I think these are planar dynamic not ortho, right?).  Compared to the HE-500 these things could float away.

 

I was heading out the door and couldn't listen much till tomorrow, but I did try them briefly with my iPad Air and I felt that it could drive them fairly well, although the volume was set at 75-95% most of the time.  Lack of power didn't result in a lack of bass, and with the iPad at 100% there was no distortion - it was louder than I like for casual listening but not close to concert levels.  They definitely benefit from an amp, but they are not unusable at all un-amped.

 

Most of the time I know immediately after putting on a headphone if I would enjoy owning them or not.  Occasionally a headphone sounds nice when listened to by itself at first, but over time when you compare them to others then their flaws become quite apparent when you switch back (Edition 9 for example).  This is not one of those - it's a headphone I would absolutely want to own, and it doesn't fall down in comparison to the HE-500.  I'm positive that it will stand up to my other phones as well.


Edited by HeadphoneAddict - 3/28/14 at 12:10am
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