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post #196 of 204
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Originally Posted by OJNeg View Post
 

Got a good chance to compare the HE560 to my own HD600 today. Level matched but on different amps.

 

I found that the HE560 still had a bit of that treble tizz that gets to me when listening at high levels. Not too different from what I remember the HE500 actually. In direct comparison, the HD600 had a much softer treble texture while maintaining equal (if not better/cleaner) attack. I would speculate that the HE560 does show to have a minor treble spike somewhere. Was ultimately hoping it might be more controlled and refined in the treble though.

 

Most of us agreed that the HE560 was superior at reproducing bass. On first listen, I actually didn't think it was significantly better. But part of it might be me preferring dynamic bass to ortho bass.

 

Regardless, I agree that the HE560 is an excellent headphone. Quite neutral and open-sounding which suits my two biggest priorities. But probably not good enough to pull me away from an eventual HD800 upgrade.

Did you just compare these two at the meet with regards to treble refinement? Or also against other well-known headphones? HD600's treble is relatively linear but with dips around the definition and sparkle regions, plus lack of decay issues leads to an aggressively smoothed treble.

post #197 of 204
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post
 

Did you just compare these two at the meet with regards to treble refinement? Or also against other well-known headphones? HD600's treble is relatively linear but with dips around the definition and sparkle regions, plus lack of decay issues leads to an aggressively smoothed treble.

 

I did try it against some other headphones next to Marv's rig. But I was mostly interested in how the HD600 compared to the HE560 on my rig, as that might have been my next purchase. On Marv's rig the HE560 was great of course. But Marv's rig is kind of like Chesky recordings; it makes every good headphone sound great, even $30 Tascams :evil::evil:haha

 

I would not call the HD600 "aggressively" smooth. I mean, it's smooth in the scope of things but the HD650 probably fits the "aggressively" smoothed label better. Next to something like the HD800 or just a good pair of tweeters, the HD600 might seem less capable in the treble. But not overly smooth especially when listening at louder levels; just ask ultrabike about that :wink_face:.

post #198 of 204
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I have noticed a bit of treble tizz as well......I notice it more on vocals from various artists.  It is not sibilance, sounds like a slight vibration somewhere in the drivers.  Reducing the volume usually helps some.

 

Is anyone else hearing this?  Or is it possibly a problem with my pair!

 

Hope this is being fixed that the moment..

post #199 of 204

It looks like Hifiman took their inspiration from Stax.  The construction is very similar.

post #200 of 204
Any improvements on midrange of the latest He-560 veneer?
post #201 of 204
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Originally Posted by Headphonetopia View Post

Any improvements on midrange of the latest He-560 veneer?

 

Midrange is clearer and slightly brighter up top.  IMO, it is an improvement, but really, it's a matter of tastes...  From measurements, I don't feel the housings did much to the sound signature, it seems it was more or less the pads.  So if you do want the warmer, smoother sound, the Focus-A pads may be worth a look. 

post #202 of 204
Nice review.

I will put this on my must listen to list.

Would a Oppo HA-1 amp be okay to power these phones?
post #203 of 204
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Originally Posted by Badas View Post

Nice review.

I will put this on my must listen to list.

Would a Oppo HA-1 amp be okay to power these phones?

The HA-1 is voiced for the PM1: bright and lean to compensate for the thick and warm sound of the headphones.

 

You want the opposite philosophy for Hifiman headphones, especially the HE-560. Any Audio-gd would probably be better than the Oppo.

If you can get a good price on the Fostex HP-A8, it would be good, too.

post #204 of 204

heyyy, so i know the he400 isn't even in the same class as these, but I was wondering if there has been any direct comparisons done between the two headphones. thinking about upgrading to the he560 in the far future when I get the money. would specifically like to know about the bass heh.

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