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post #271 of 1160
And don't forget how well the earbud fits. One bud might fit one person better the other giving a different sound. Today I received the BE5 which are burning in right now. Waiting for the tg-38s and tg-jl1. I also have the pk2 which I like however in my experience the ANV3 is clearly better. The ANV3 might sound a bit more dark however so far I did not hear a bud with better low end.
post #272 of 1160

The MX, M, and TG buds from Dasetn are all well worth their investment. I've only ordered one of each so I don't know if I got a good or bad pair - but all of them have been good to me. I do alternate between all the buds as well as full-sized cans. One thing I do not do is go back to any of the IEMs I have. 

 

My first experience with Yuin was the OK3. I was never impressed by the OK3 in either bud or IE mode. They didn't sound bad at all- bad sounding to me is like $5 or less earbuds at the local discount store (made for this price point) that make everything sound like AM radio. The OK3s sounded okay but nothing really reached out an grabbed me - so I ended up not really using them - but going back to them to see if I grew to like them - I never did. Consequently, it stopped my looking any further at Yuin. Currently I don't know where my OK3s are. When I find them, I'll give them another shot.

 

Had the buds from Dasetn been known to me much earlier, it would have saved me a lot of investing in all the IEMs and buds I have invested in - however, at the very beginning of my IEM journey (1998) started with Sony's and SHUREs and back then many inexpensive but okay earbuds were available from Japanese manufacturers - Sony and Aiwa were two of my favorites. The cheaper buds available today from Sony, Philips, and JVC don't seem to be as good sounding ones from last century. However, I have decades of listening experience now and since then, digital audio has exploded - and thus the cost of good source and reproduction material has become widely available at a much cheaper cost than ever before. The sound from AIWA or SONY seems to be very V-shaped. 

 

I can remember owning a set of speakers in the 90s/00s that wowed me (in terms of cost vs sound quality) - the thing that made these stand out was the clear, undistorted, and liquidy midrange accompanied by clear bass and treble. I am used to Japanese speakers and buds at having very listenable treble and sometimes bass but not so great mids - but the midrange (VERY CLEAR!) was a turning point for me in terms of sound reproduction in these new speakers. They were made by the still boutique brand KEF. So far I have not found the same experience in buds. I have found IEMs with a similar midrange, but then the bass and treble are lacking. Unfortunately, using eq isn't a solution for me since the phase distortion introduced kind of makes the music sound artificial to me. I do use a little BBE or Aphex Aural excitation though in all my playback devices - I've stuck one in the sound system at the bar I DJ at - at when asked, I push the little red button for patrons and they are amazed at the subtle difference that is actually quite dramatic. Still I know these boxes introduce distortion not unlike eq - but for some reason, it sounds more natural than boosting or attenuating frequencies. I prefer distorting my music with BBE or Aphex rather than eq. Unfortunately, its made me either have to get an outboard box for component setups or only use specific apps for playback. If a device is incapable of using BBE or Aphex, I do not use it for playback anymore. For those who hear no difference between eq and BBE/Aphex, you are not as cursed as I am in that I am limited to very specific apps. There is no portable headphone amp with BBE or Aphex - and should one come out that is a similar size to the Fiio E6, 7, or 11, I will be surely to invest.

 

The best sound I have ever heard is at friends or relative's places with equipment costing upwards of thousands of dollars and invariably the speakers are at least 4 foot tall and enclosed in beautifully finished wood grain enclosures with some kinds of fancy silk dome tweeters. Not only is the fidelity top notch - but the imaging and soundstage take on a dramatic than 3D character not reproduced in my ears yet by any head device. However, I find that having to sit in a specific spot of a room or such  inconveniences such as not being able remotely switch sources or even changing turntable speeds by taking of a platter and changing belts to be extremely cumbersome - let alone having to pay thousands of dollars for this inconvenience. Plus, I'm sure my neigbors appreciate my using buds or cans. Along with the digital revolution, my preference for listening became buds or cans rather than hundereds of Watts pumped through floor standing speakers.

 

Even though the experience with buds or cans are not the ultimate listening experience, the convenience of being able to walk around with them in public and enjoying almost top notch playback are worth it. My primary source is my Android Moto X phone or a laptop. Plus, most people will leave me alone in public with head-gear on. I occasionally use a headphone amp and do notice that it opens up the sound - sort of along the lines of BBE. It makes the source without the amp sound kind of squeezed and compressed.

 

I'M RAMBLING. . .time to tie it up and bring it back to OP. . .

 

The Dasetn (M760, M1, M3, TG-38s) buds sound great and since they cost so little, I don't feel so bad about breaking them - and I eventually break all my buds/iems/cans. 

 

Right now my favorites are the TG-38 and M760. I keep going between the two - depending on which is physically closer to me. Keep in mind I listen to these with mods that seal the drivers into my ears so my listening experience isn't necessarily the same as yours. I do switch to cans sometimes - and I mod cans also (replace open air foam with sealing pads or transplant drivers to different headbands - my currently project is switching those SFI orthodynamic drivers into $5 headbands)- I think that it's safe to say that I don't listen to any head-gear unmodded. I basically turn my buds into IEMs or even custom IEMs. Why not just buy IEMs? The modded buds sound better to me and I'm comparing these to dynamic driver IEMs or even ones with TWFK or Siren BA drivers as well as SHURE models. I've gone so far as to transplant IEM drivers into custom shells - and they sound the same as stock - just more comfortable. The difference when doing the same for buds though is very dramatic.


Edited by mtliu - 5/17/14 at 7:37pm
post #273 of 1160
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Originally Posted by swmkdr View Post

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On top of that it's clear from this thread that particularly the Dasetn earbuds sound different from one another - hence the 'good pair' and 'bad pair' discussions. It's therefore possible that my Dasetn and Tingo buds sound very different to the ones you received.

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Tingos do not have the problem with "good" and "bad" pairs.

post #274 of 1160
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Originally Posted by FlyingDutchMan View Post

And don't forget how well the earbud fits. One bud might fit one person better the other giving a different sound. Today I received the BE5 which are burning in right now. Waiting for the tg-38s and tg-jl1. I also have the pk2 which I like however in my experience the ANV3 is clearly better. The ANV3 might sound a bit more dark however so far I did not hear a bud with better low end.


Fit is a very important issue.

I had a problem placing TG-JL1 pointing towards the ear canal.

PK1/2 was a slightly better fit, and TG-38s, M760/1/3 were a perfect fit.

 

BE5 has a better bass than ANV3, so you'll enjoy the upgrade until Tingos show up.

post #275 of 1160
Ordered the tg-38s😰...hope they live up to the hype 😎
post #276 of 1160
Thread Starter 

This is a no hype zone - move along, nothing to see here :ph34r:

post #277 of 1160
Explain.......😅
post #278 of 1160
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Originally Posted by mochill View Post

Explain.......😅

We do not hype every newly bought item here.

Everyone is vaccinated against the new toy syndrome.

Meaningless one-liners are replaced by proper reviews and discussions.

 

It's a sanctuary for sanity.

post #279 of 1160
I received my Tingo TG-38S several days ago from Dasetn. I ordered 2 but only received 1. The other will be shipped later. Playing a mix of 320 kbps mp3, Flac and WAV files through Foobar with the new Geek Out 450. Right out of the box, they were absolutely terrible. Extremely hot, bright with the fatiguing tizzyness many have reported. Due to prior reports, I let them burn in to let them settle down, checking on their progress every now and then. After about 50 hours, I have to say they settled down a bit, but not enough to say that I like them. Maybe they'll settle down to what others have reported but I'm not optimistic. They have such a long way to go. It's also possible that i have a defective pair. Perhaps when the 2nd pair come in I'll revisit my assessment. My all time favorite earbuds are Blox TM7. Kings of neutrality and technical champs. Tingo TG-38S are not even in the same league. Other earphones I own are Hifiman RE-600 and Sony 7550.
post #280 of 1160
I also ordered the M760 from Dasetn. First the black version and then the red cabled version. I think I received 2 "good quality" pieces. They are both magnificent. I also own Blox TM7 and M2C. While the TM7 are technically better than M2C, M2C is a very "fun" sounding earbud. M760 house sound is similar to M2C but much much more enjoyable. Soundstage is enormous. Detail retrieval & musicality get high marks with no glaring weakness in any part of the frequency spectrum. I also tried out the M1. Although not a bad earbud, nothing really to write home about. Just a good not great bud. So I will rank Dasetn M760 > Dasetn M1 > Tingo TG-38S
post #281 of 1160
Hmmm😌... That sounds aqward😞... Maybe source is responsible 😎, that's why the high treble extension 😃
post #282 of 1160
how come people have extreme opinions with the 38s? well, still waiting for it and with all the varying impressions with the Tingo, I might order the M760 just to try. Still im in doubt as it may never arrive also.
Edited by jrazmar - 5/19/14 at 12:04am
post #283 of 1160

After a proper burn-in, the Tingos are my favorite, but I still finding myself switching back to the M760 for some recordings. The tizziness that I noticed before with the Tingos is gone. It has transformed into a "sparkle". The Tingos do very well with male vocals (I'm listening to Barry Manilow right now - don't hate).

 

The Tingos are the opposite of buds that need an amp. The Tingos are the most efficient/sensitive earbuds I have owned. It's probably the best bud to use with those who have an anemic or underpowered source.

 

The price point of the Tingos has them competing with JVC HAF150 Gummy, Phillips SHE2100, Panasonic RPHV09 and Sony MDRE9 - and the Tingos are superior to all of these V-shaped buds. However, those who only have $15 to spend who prefer V-shaped sound might prefer the other buds - or use the Tingos with eq cutting the mids.

 

I place the TG-38s above the M760 - but I also still use both with the TG-38s being used more - and also switching to cans. The cans are noticibley less efficient than the buds - needing me to turn the volume control to 8/10 - the Tingos sound as loud as the cans at 3/10 and the M760 sound as loud at 4/10. I've also installed a 4-channel monitoring station that I DJ at. This box is great for hooking up 4 different sets of cans/buds and adjusting each to play at the same volume level as each other - and then switching is as fast as one set goes out and the other goes into the ears - without having to mess with volume.

post #284 of 1160
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Top to bottom - PK1, ANV3SE, TG-JL1, BE5.

TG-JL1 looks metallic, not plastic like the others.

nice collection you got there:gs1000smile:

yes you right they are better looking then the blox. although still i prefer the classy pk looks, maybe its personal since pk2 was my first ever"professional" earbud and i used it for over 6 years till i bought the anv3se.

too bad though they are bigger than the pk1, the side where the cable goes in the housing looks a bit more elongated

 

another downside with the anv3se is that when an album has a low quality, it sounds like crap with them, unlike with the pk2 which everything sounds kinda balanced:rolleyes:

cant w8 for my JL1 and 38S pairs to finally arive!


Edited by jenia1 - 5/19/14 at 6:43am
post #285 of 1160
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Originally Posted by BenF View Post
 

Tingos do not have the problem with "good" and "bad" pairs.

I'm ready to retract my calling the Tingo's highs artificial - I narrowed it down to my DAC doing odd things after other IEMs and headphones sounded odd.

 

So yep, now 100% happy and they're at the top of my pile too currently, although I will probably pick up some BE5s too (if anyone selling PM me!)

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