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post #9781 of 9793
I was surprised there is no miniplug adapter (did I miss something else). Almost every other can I have starts with the mini, with an adapter to put over it for large plug inputs. I have an adapter from my Senn HD650's, so I could plug into the GO. Most portable amps use the miniplug, kind of strange they don't supply the adapter (can't be much to produce).
post #9782 of 9793

When you start buying headphones this expensive, they almost always come standard with a hardwired 1/4 inch plug.  Same as LCD2, HD800 etc.

post #9783 of 9793
Not sure where I was reading it, I think a headphone classified, but someone claimed better soundstage by changing from 1/8 to 1/4 plug.

Grain of salt maybe but anyone wanna input?
post #9784 of 9793

I would think that all things being equal, 1/8 and 1/4 plugs have no sonic differences.

post #9785 of 9793
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post

When you start buying headphones this expensive, they almost always come standard with a hardwired 1/4 inch plug.  Same as LCD2, HD800 etc.

I have no problem with that, but, instead of the wooden case with the hex screws (my woodworking daughter says it isn't great construction), I'd take an adapter to be able to use it with the smaller connectors, which are much more common than the larger one. Generally, unless you're listening through your stereo system or a recording engineer, most sources (at least mine), amps for headphones, take the mini plug. Not a biggie, especially since the folks at Sennheiser do previde it for the 650 (which treminates with the larger plug...they provide a pretty nice adapter, too), but if I couldn't use it with most of my gear until I ordered an adapter, I'd find it annoying. I am enjoying listening so far.
As to sonics, I suppose in theory a larger contact area would work to allow signal through more cleanly, similar to the wide diameter of most audiophile cables. Whether you'd actually notice, though, beats me.
post #9786 of 9793

It's assumed by the headphone manufacturers, that if you're willing to spend that kind of money on a home listening headphone, that you already have a dedicated system to plug it in to.  Most desktop amps from mid to high end all feature quarter inch plugs.  Hell, even my old cheap Little Dot MK2 and Magni had quarter inch plugs.  Again, you won't find too many expensive headphones that come stock with an eighth inch plug and adaptor, unless they were meant to be portable.  Either way, a quarter inch to eighth inch adaptor is like 2 dollars on amazon.

post #9787 of 9793
I was more disappointed that they didn't come with a balanced cable as standard.
post #9788 of 9793

Yea I think they could have went the Audeze route.  Audezes come standard with the hardwired 1/4 inch plug, but also with a balanced cable.  I think they should all come with a 1/4 to 1/8 adapters as well.

 

Sennheiser did a big no no with their balanced cables.  It was like 400 dollars or something for the HD800 balanced cable? hahaha.

post #9789 of 9793
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post
 

Yea I think they could have went the Audeze route.  Audezes come standard with the hardwired 1/4 inch plug, but also with a balanced cable.  I think they should all come with a 1/4 to 1/8 adapters as well.

 

Sennheiser did a big no no with their balanced cables.  It was like 400 dollars or something for the HD800 balanced cable? hahaha.

 

I would rather re-solder the needed connector each time than paying 400USD for their crappy HD800 cable... Well, that's what I am doing actually - using the same cable for about a year or two now and just resoldering connectors depending on what amp or headphones I am currently using ,-) OCC copper just worked best for whatever headphone I tried it with (HE-4, HE-500, LCD-2, HD800, Slants) so no need to worry about cables at all from my point of view.

post #9790 of 9793
I received my Sunrise last night. I got the optional stacked heatsink like the Horizon because I noticed at the meet that the heatsinks on this thing at idle are hot enough to burn you. It looks like a dragster with zoomie headers now smily_headphones1.gif

Sorry about the crappy cell phone pics. So far so good with the HE560.

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So first off I am set with a portable(as in wanting to listen to the HE-560's in bed or upstairs, etc.) setup that really has me smiling, the DX90 dap sounds very good in terms of everything it does it does well so far. Well paired with the iBasso PB2 balanced jack to HE-560 I have found my solution for amazing sound and power for the He-560's with a small portable combo. I am going to say anyone looking for an amp that can do justice for the HE-560 that is earth shatteringly expensive the PB2 is a good solution that sounds great.

 

                                             

post #9792 of 9793

End-game DAC:

 

 

Honestly, I thought the AMB Gamma2 sounded quite good... but the Neko... there is just no comparison. In fact, I'll even avoid making a comparison.

 

Now I'm even more convinced the HE-560 will benefit greatly from a dark DAC and amp chain to compliment its slightly bright sound.

post #9793 of 9793
Congrats on your new DAC. I wasn't familiar with Neko so just went to their site. Well done passive I/V can really be good. Yes--DACs do not all sound the same! No more than cables, blah blah blah. It took me a while to find a DAC that was as musical (yet had more detail resolution) than my circa 1989 Wadia. Enjoy!
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