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post #9541 of 9550

So those who have these with the new baffles, is there a batch number or similar?

 

I was about to pull the trigger on these but if they have changed things slightly I would personally prefer getting the revised version.

post #9542 of 9550
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Originally Posted by 4Real View Post
 

So those who have these with the new baffles, is there a batch number or similar?

 

I was about to pull the trigger on these but if they have changed things slightly I would personally prefer getting the revised version.

 

I'm joining your club :D

post #9543 of 9550
You guys will have to join the big club eventually!

Honestly, though, I think the HE-560 is a tremendous value for what it offers sonically.
post #9544 of 9550
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Originally Posted by Bill-P View Post

You guys will have to join the big club eventually!

Honestly, though, I think the HE-560 is a tremendous value for what it offers sonically.
could you give me a couple reasons why the 560 is better than the 400i
post #9545 of 9550

I have new baffles and thick focus pads, I got mine directly from Head-direct about 6-8 weeks ago.

post #9546 of 9550
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could you give me a couple reasons why the 560 is better than the 400i

I have not heard the HE-400i, so I can't quite say anything along that line, to be honest.

But I have heard many other high-end headphones, and very few of them can sound the way the HE-560 does out of a good setup.

In fact, the HE-560 out of a good setup is approaching the sound of a good Stax setup for me.
post #9547 of 9550
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Originally Posted by Bill-P View Post
 

It's not "small", though.

 

The wires from each of the driver baffles in my HE-560 obstruct up to half of the enclosure.

 

 

 

Seriously, if you don't believe me, put a finger up next to the opening in the back, and then tell me the sound doesn't change?

 

If something as small as "fazor" could make a difference, then that "small wire" would make a difference acoustically because it's diffusing the wave that's traveling to the back.

 

That the cable obstruct the sound waves doesn’t seems realistic to me, but if the cables touch or comes very, very close to the magnets might, at least in theory, inflict on the sound by the electrical or electrical magnetic fields in the cable.

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That the cable obstruct the sound waves doesn’t seems realistic to me, but if the cables touch or comes very, very close to the magnets might, at least in theory, inflict on the sound by the electrical or electrical magnetic fields in the cable.

 

I'd think the cable does obstruct the sound wave. Think double-slit interference when it doesn't completely block one of the small openings, and when it does actually block the opening entirely, then it'll have reflective properties that augment the wave that's traveling to the front.

 

E-field or B-field interference is also possible, given that the magnets inside are quite strong, but since transient is good enough, I'd say the magnet's grip on the diaphragm is still good enough, and in that case, any noticeable interference can only be mechanical.

 

Plus hekeli already posted measurements that show a 0.5dB rise around 8-9KHz from letting the wire be... (as in not getting it out of the way), so one way or another, it's still affecting the sound wave.

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Originally Posted by Bill-P View Post
 

 

I'd think the cable does obstruct the sound wave. Think double-slit interference when it doesn't completely block one of the small openings, and when it does actually block the opening entirely, then it'll have reflective properties that augment the wave that's traveling to the front.

 

E-field or B-field interference is also possible, given that the magnets inside are quite strong, but since transient is good enough, I'd say the magnet's grip on the diaphragm is still good enough, and in that case, any noticeable interference can only be mechanical.

 

Plus hekeli already posted measurements that show a 0.5dB rise around 8-9KHz from letting the wire be... (as in not getting it out of the way), so one way or another, it's still affecting the sound wave.

if my finger tip affects the sound through my grill modded HE-560 then I can see how the wires in front of the driver and behind the grill can make difference sonically. Have you tried pushed them down. And if so have you noticed differences sonically, and or good or bad changes to the sound? 

 

How is the revision/edit of the Bill-P amp going ? any news and how much watts and voltage were you putting in with the amp you built at 50ohms?

post #9550 of 9550

Yeah, pushing them down makes the sound more sibilant to me, for some bizarre reason.

 

So I'm leaving them be for now.

 

I'm shying away from the grill mod due to that. It almost seems as if I'd want to keep the stock grill.

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