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post #9466 of 17297

Since Jerg reported the same difference with his HE-560 Focus Pads, I'm starting to think maybe Hifiman already made this change a while back, quietly...

 

I did purchase the previous HE-560 from GrizzlyBeast, who I'd assume purchased it pretty early on.

 

Perhaps that's why I perceived my old pair as being "bright".

 

This pair... I can hardly call it "bright".

post #9467 of 17297

In this case I have probably the same pair of Focus Pads as you. I prefer the tone of the Focus-A. The general sound is less refined but less lean to me.


(Hifiman answered me quickly but they think I'm talking about the Focus Pads-A ! Which probably indicates it is true that there is no new recent version of Focus Pads)


Edited by Rudiger - 10/23/14 at 2:13am
post #9468 of 17297

Bill-P, so I am very surprised by your sentence "(...) [Focus Pads] are darker, warmer, bassier, and smoother than anything I have ever put on my HE-560, by far. They make the Focus Pads A sound bright, edgy, and spiky."

 

It is clearly the contrary to my ears. :blink: 

 

[Edit : oh, maybe you was talking about an older version of focus-A ?]


Edited by Rudiger - 10/23/14 at 2:18am
post #9469 of 17297

Thanks for all the answers! I'm now thinking of going with the HE-560.

 

Bill-P: "They make my HE-560 sound exactly like a cleaner HD600 with more bass. Not sure how to explain it, but these are the opposite of "better, sharper imaging". Everything is softer, smoother, less forward, less aggressive, and the extra warmth is very apparent."

 

Oh my I want THAT :atsmile:

 

Could you take a picture of the Focus Pads you're currently using?

I'm going to bought a rev2, but on sale so it will certainly be an early version. It would surely help if I need to contact Hifiman.

post #9470 of 17297
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Originally Posted by borrego View Post


Do you mind sharing pictures of your newly acquired Focus pads tell us where you bought those from? Some HE560 owners are saying hifiman has done some minor revision (use metal instead of plastic in housing area where the pads were mounted) for the production HE560.

Hey, I can confirm what looks like metal in the housing area. First pair had plastic like HE500, the replacement pair has metal: 

 

 

My experience shadows Bill's exactly. I had distortion in the right cup at low frequencies and HiFiMAN sent a brand new pair from factory in China - had the factory "checked" tape around the wrapping along with the plastics on gimbals. The pads did seem thicker, sturdier, and nicer but they've since broken in a little. But that metal or what looks to be metal really surprised me at first. 

post #9471 of 17297
I see now there are notches for proper pad mounting... One previously had to squeeze the pad ring to mount...
post #9472 of 17297
Would someone be kind enough to measure the thickness of the new Focus pads?
post #9473 of 17297

I bought a pair of focus pads recently for jerg to modify my 560.  I found them to be no different than the previous focus pads.  That mount ring however, is differently different than mine.


Edited by TMRaven - 10/23/14 at 6:43am
post #9474 of 17297
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Originally Posted by wmedrz View Post
 

Hey, I can confirm what looks like metal in the housing area. First pair had plastic like HE500, the replacement pair has metal: 

 

 

My experience shadows Bill's exactly. I had distortion in the right cup at low frequencies and HiFiMAN sent a brand new pair from factory in China - had the factory "checked" tape around the wrapping along with the plastics on gimbals. The pads did seem thicker, sturdier, and nicer but they've since broken in a little. But that metal or what looks to be metal really surprised me at first. 

 

Hmmmm, I think I feel some low frequency distortion coming on... ;)  Nice pic, thanks for posting it.  I wonder if HFM is about to get a flood of "defective" HE-560s RMA'd :D 

 

Or better yet, a boatload of requests for just the baffles.  Schiit, I'm emailing them now.  I know what the answer will be, but if the holes are the same as the original version, why not ask.


Edited by ThurstonX - 10/23/14 at 6:52am
post #9475 of 17297
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Originally Posted by ThurstonX View Post
 

 

Hmmmm, I think I feel some low frequency distortion coming on... ;)  Nice pic, thanks for posting it.  I wonder if HFM is about to get a flood of "defective" HE-560s RMA'd :D 

 

Or better yet, a boatload of requests for just the baffles.  Schiit, I'm emailing them now.  I know what the answer will be, but if the holes are the same as the original version, why not ask.

Haha! It didn't make a difference to me whether it was plastic metal foam or whatever, I wouldn't mind a scratch or two on the gimbal either. But if something is wrong with the sound back they go. 

post #9476 of 17297
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Originally Posted by wmedrz View Post
 

Haha! It didn't make a difference to me whether it was plastic metal foam or whatever, I wouldn't mind a scratch or two on the gimbal either. But if something is wrong with the sound back they go. 

 

I was just kidding about inducing a vibration defect in mine.  I love those freakin' cans.  But I'm not joking about asking for the new baffles.  I mean, why not.  It's the endless drive to tinker.

post #9477 of 17297
Hifiman seems to do well with respond g to people's complaints. I need to start a "why gamers aren't buying hifiman headphones when they should#screwinjacksdontallowforpluginmicrophone" because I definitely would have bought these instead of the z7
post #9478 of 17297

Talking about distortion, my new replacement pair makes a friggin subbass rattle on other side, easier to reproduce with <40hz sine waves. Like there was a hair somewhere, it comes and goes randomly.. but I don't see anything anywhere.. aargh I have good luck with Hifiman. Well I did RMA both my Audezes too. I don't think I'll ever get a planar again.


Edited by hekeli - 10/23/14 at 8:36am
post #9479 of 17297
Quote:
Originally Posted by wmedrz View Post
 

Hey, I can confirm what looks like metal in the housing area. First pair had plastic like HE500, the replacement pair has metal: 

 

 

My experience shadows Bill's exactly. I had distortion in the right cup at low frequencies and HiFiMAN sent a brand new pair from factory in China - had the factory "checked" tape around the wrapping along with the plastics on gimbals. The pads did seem thicker, sturdier, and nicer but they've since broken in a little. But that metal or what looks to be metal really surprised me at first. 

 

You're right.

 

I see now that my pair has also has that metal mounting ring, whereas I could have sworn it was a plastic mount before.

 

The pads do feel nicer and suppler than the last Focus Pads that I remember. The comfort is top notch, and I think better than my last pair by a good margin.

 

So I guess we can call this HE-560 Rev.B now?

 

----

 

Okay, I really don't think it's just me.

 

Using my ES10 as reference, the difference between the 2 headphones is very slightly there, and hard to put into words. Some others have also confirmed this.

 

And there was a very obvious difference between the HE-560 and my ES10 before. Many can attest to this.

 

These HE-560 are what I'd consider perfection to be. Whatever Hifiman or Fang Bian did, they seem to have just created a masterpiece without knowing it. Or perhaps the sonic change was unintended!?

 

Anyway, this is it! The HD600 that I think people have been waiting for! It's no longer a headphone that I can "tolerate". It's simply music to me now.

 

This song is no longer sibilant:

 


Edited by Bill-P - 10/23/14 at 9:17am
post #9480 of 17297
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Originally Posted by chowmein83 View Post
 

 

Like MickeyVee, I also sent a couple of emails back and forth with HiFiMAN, and they quickly shipped my gift out (the velour earpads since I own the 400i). In fact, I've actually already received them!

Are the velour pads the same as the ones you can currently order for $10? Or is it new, angled or something? i already have velours with my 400s, and i ordered the 400i last week - maybe i qualify for free stuff ha

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