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That's just what I needed to know, thanks. Are there any potential issues that you can see with regard to the reliability of the new design? 

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post #917 of 10358
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Haven't you suggested (in your latest post) that it's good time one to buy an HE-6, daerron?

What changed your mind (and post)?

 

I changed my mind when I remembered the HE-500 was recently dropped to $599 in price. I guess there is a good chance we might see a price drop on the HE-6 then as well when its replacement gets announced! Didn't want to suggest people buy a HE-6 now with a good chance of a price drop.. I might get lynched! :D The HE-560 at $900 vs the HE-6 say at $1100 would a tough one! :eek: 


Edited by daerron - 4/6/14 at 9:56am
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The HE-500 was recently dropped to $599 in price. I guess there is a good chance we might see a price drop on the HE-6 then as well, then it would be a good time to buy one! Didn't want to suggest people buy a HE-6 now and then it gets a price drop, I might get lynched! :D The HE-560 at $900 vs the HE-6 say at $1100 would a tough one! :eek:

I would only get the 560 over the he6 because of amping requirements but the he-6 is still the flagship so I doubt it will go down.

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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

That's just what I needed to know, thanks. Are there any potential issues that you can see with regard to the reliability of the new design? 

Structurally? The headband doesn't seem to have any point of major stress (unlike previous headband where all the stress is on the area with the logo caps). I don't know much about wood though, the teak wood used for the cups feel like they are very hardy and durable and don't really take a scratch, that's only a short term observation though. Maybe someone more well-versed in wood can chime in about teak relative to other popular woods used for headphone cups.

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Is it the same wood that was used on the HE-5?

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Structurally? The headband doesn't seem to have any point of major stress (unlike previous headband where all the stress is on the area with the logo caps). I don't know much about wood though, the teak wood used for the cups feel like they are very hardy and durable and don't really take a scratch, that's only a short term observation though. Maybe someone more well-versed in wood can chime in about teak relative to other popular woods used for headphone cups.

I can only say that teak wood in general is very robust and resistant to wear and tear. That's why it's used for outdoor furniture - because it can last without much care.
It does tend to lose its shine after a while and gets a buy grayish.
So it might lose some of its shine after a year or two, but it should certainly last for years.
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Is it the same wood that was used on the HE-5?

No, HE5's wood is very different (brighter with different kind of wood grain). I don't think Hifiman ever gave away what type of wood it was though, but wood-enthusiasts could probably tell from a glance.

 

 

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I can only say that teak wood in general is very robust and resistant to wear and tear. That's why it's used for outdoor furniture - because it can last without much care.
It does tend to lose its shine after a while and gets a buy grayish.
So it might lose some of its shine after a year or two, but it should certainly last for years.
 

Good info, thanks. Do you think wood wax would help preserve the aesthetics?

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I would think that if the wood required care, HFM would ship a small care kit ALA Audeze. 

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I would think that if the wood required care, HFM would ship a small care kit ALA Audeze. 

It's not heavily lacquered though, so I'd imagine that wood wax would help in the long term.

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It's not heavily lacquered though, so I'd imagine that wood wax would help in the long term.

Yes wood wax should be all that's ever needed for care.
I'd imagine waxing it once in a while should do. Teak requires little to no impregnation.
Keep in mind though that it's natural for teak to lose its shine and get a grey shade. I am not sure you can prevent it.
Of course assuming you'd own the headphone for over two years in the first place.
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I am not sure how the wood will go here in Oz. On hot days, when I turn the aircon on, I can hear my bedroom door creaking due to the sudden temperature change. Sometimes it bends enough in the middle that it will release the latch and open. That can't be good.

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Same here in South Africa where the temperature swing between day and night temperatures are on average around 20C. Does humidity also have an influence on wear and tear? Most wood products seem to survive pretty well here, but these ear cups look pretty delicate.

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Same here in South Africa where the temperature swing between day and night temperatures are on average around 20C. Does humidity also have an influence on wear and tear? Most wood products seem to survive pretty well here, but these ear cups look pretty delicate.

Apparently teak wood is used for river/sea docks, so maybe they are impervious to humidity / temp swings?

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Apparently teak wood is used for river/sea docks, so maybe they are impervious to humidity / temp swings?

They're used for outdoor furniture here... Which means 4 seasons and pretty much hell for delicate wood. Lots of temperature swings.

I don't think these will pose any problems... HiFiMAN is surely accounted for with teak.

It's the most durable wood they could choose.

I imagine it does require some QC regardless of materials used, obviously, that's the one area where HiFiMAN was not absolutely stellar before.

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They're used for outdoor furniture here... Which means 4 seasons and pretty much hell for delicate wood. Lots of temperature swings.

I don't think these will pose any problems... HiFiMAN is surely accounted for with teak.

It's the most durable wood they could choose.

I imagine it does require some QC regardless of materials used, obviously, that's the one area where HiFiMAN was not absolutely stellar before.

I mean, I've taken my HE560 apart completely a few times already. Everything is new (or altered) except the screws, the magnets/grid, the wire connections, and the grills. Must've been a lot of internal QCing, which unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how you see it) that is further dragged on with the baffle improvement suggestion I made.


Edited by jerg - 4/6/14 at 1:41pm
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