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Originally Posted by Edwood View Post

Comparing the soundstages (headstage) from what I can hear with the HE-560 vs. the HE-6, the HE-560 is more "oval" while the HE-6 is more circular in shape (Not a perfect circle).  The HE-560 has a wider soundstage, but less deep than the HE-6.  The HE-6 has a deeper soundstage, but not as wide.

The ear pads effect the soundstage as well, I'm going to do a head to head with same ear pads as well.  But those are my initial impressions about the soundstage. 

Alright wink.gif
By the way, you'll be getting the Oppo to compare, correct?
post #902 of 5817

Thanks a lot for the impressions on sound stage and imaging (I agree with Jerg's descriptions of the HE-500 to a tee). The comparisons to the HE-500 is very interesting and informative. It's good to hear that the HE-560 does improve on this (though I would like a more pinpoint centre stage than it currently appears to be). The improved staging along with its accurate depiction of stringed instruments will be very hard to resist, but this does make the HE-560 seem less of an all round genre killer compared to the HE-500, but personally it appears to match up very well with my preferred music genres..

 

What chances are there that we will see a price drop like we did with the HE-500 when it went from $900 to $700 after being out on the market for a short while?


Edited by daerron - 4/5/14 at 8:15pm
post #903 of 5817
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Originally Posted by conquerator2 View Post


Alright wink.gif
By the way, you'll be getting the Oppo to compare, correct?

 

If you send me one, sure.   ;)

post #904 of 5817
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Originally Posted by daerron View Post

 

What chances are there that we will see a price drop like we did with the HE-500 when it went from $900 to $700 after being out on the market for a short while?

 

Given that most of the components, including the drivers are completely new, that would be doubtful.

post #905 of 5817
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Originally Posted by Edwood View Post

If you send me one, sure.   wink.gif

If I had one, I would wink.gif
I swear I've read that one of you guys who got the review sample is also getting an Oppo sample though.
post #906 of 5817
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Originally Posted by Edwood View Post
 

 

Given that most of the components, including the drivers are completely new, that would be doubtful.

 

I guess I agree, though it does look like there is potential for cost savings down the line, especially as the design is shared with the HE-400i. I presume with magnets only on one side it should have more in common with the HE-4 which is significantly cheaper, unless we are dealing with a much more complicated driver here? Is this driver using smaller magnets but with a higher count or are we are dealing with tighter tolerances on the driver side that lead to the improvements in driver efficiency and speed?

 

So at this stage it seems we could summarise the HE-560 as follow:

Slightly closer to the HE-6 in terms of sound quality and tonally more neutral than the HE-500. Improvements in speed and transient response. Flatter mid-range response and a more extended and airy treble. Improvements in the sound staging with respect to width and imaging. Much more comfortable to wear in terms of overall design and weight.

 

Sounds like pretty good progress, though I was secretly hoping that it would convincingly make the HE-6 obsolete with the eventual replacement to the HE-6 re-establishing its technical superiority. Perhaps Hifiman are taking this opportunity to re-align their model offerings.


Edited by daerron - 4/6/14 at 2:12am
post #907 of 5817

Haven't you suggested (in your latest post) that it's good time one to buy an HE-6, daerron?

What changed your mind (and post)?

post #908 of 5817
Hifiman's taobao store now has a teaser "HE-560 new upcoming"...biggrin.gif
post #909 of 5817
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Originally Posted by daerron View Post
 

 

I guess I agree, though it does look like there is potential for cost savings down the line, especially as the design is shared with the HE-400i. I presume with magnets only on one side it should have more in common with the HE-4 which is significantly cheaper, unless we are dealing with a much more complicated driver here? Is this driver using smaller magnets but with a higher count or are we are dealing with tighter tolerances on the driver side that lead to the improvements in driver efficiency and speed?

 

So at this stage it seems we could summarise the HE-560 as follow:

Slightly closer to the HE-6 in terms of sound quality and tonally more neutral than the HE-500. Improvements in speed and transient response. Flatter mid-range response and a more extended and airy treble. Improvements in the sound staging with respect to width and imaging. Much more comfortable to wear in terms of overall design and weight.

 

Sounds like pretty good progress, though I was secretly hoping that it would convincingly make the HE-6 obsolete with the eventual replacement to the HE-6 re-establishing its technical superiority. Perhaps Hifiman are taking this opportunity to re-align their model offerings.

 

 

Bingo.  You just wrote my preliminary review.  ;)   J/K.  There's more I'll discover when I compare with the same ear pads too.  Along with directly comparing to an HE-500, which I do not have in my possession yet.

post #910 of 5817
How do they sound with the jerg pads which I have on order any one tried
How are the with smooth jazz
post #911 of 5817
Apparently the baffle fix is being implemented as we speak. Good news for me and kudos to Hifiman for going the extra mile smily_headphones1.gif
post #912 of 5817
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by conquerator2 View Post

Apparently the baffle fix is being implemented as we speak. Good news for me and kudos to Hifiman for going the extra mile smily_headphones1.gif

 

Quote for the actual post:

 

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/698831/fresh-outta-ces-the-hifiman-he-400i-and-he-560/2955#post_10431914

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Originally Posted by hifiman-us View Post
 

On the HE-560, latest report is that HiFiMAN is continuing to work on the ear cups to improve structural integrity. Might be an additional delay. That is all the info I have but will keep you posted. 

 

Peter

 
post #913 of 5817

jerg and others who have a review sample...

 

I'd like to hear more about how good the comfort and new build is. Is it a homerun? How do they compare to the most comfortable hp's that you've owned?

post #914 of 5817
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

jerg and others who have a review sample...

 

I'd like to hear more about how good the comfort and new build is. Is it a homerun? How do they compare to the most comfortable hp's that you've owned?

Short answer: yes.

 

Longer answer: the only full-sized headphone I've tried or owned, that compares to the comfort of the new Hifimans, is HD800; the comfort aspect is the one area I can praise completely without worrying about hyperbole. 

post #915 of 5817

That's just what I needed to know, thanks. Are there any potential issues that you can see with regard to the reliability of the new design? 

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