Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Headphones (full-size) › = HiFiMAN HE-560 Impressions & Discussion Thread =
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

= HiFiMAN HE-560 Impressions & Discussion Thread = - Page 59

post #871 of 9349
I worship HE6 "hotness" when paired with a speaker amp like Kate Beckinsale in a lingerie wink.gif
post #872 of 9349
Quote:
Originally Posted by Edwood View Post


The new ear pads help tame the edginess a bit, as I find them to help tame the edginess of the HE-6.  The HE-560 is noticeably smoother than the HE-6 with upper treble range, but it comes at a cost, it lacks the dynamic punch of the HE-6 on the treble and bass.  Relatively speaking, because the HE-560 still has the best aspects of an ortho and still has plenty of punch to the dynamics of treble and bass impact.  Just not quite as much as the HE-6.  Of course the sheer dynamics of the HE-6 comes at a cost as they are more fatiguing to listen to for long periods of time.  

What about the midrange though?
Isn't that a bit more forward on the 560?
post #873 of 9349
^headphone addict says it's not. Look on the first page with links to his impressions
post #874 of 9349
Quote:
Originally Posted by conquerator2 View Post


What about the midrange though?
Isn't that a bit more forward on the 560?

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post

^headphone addict says it's not. Look on the first page with links to his impressions

 

Yes, the midrange of the HE-560 and HE-6 is not as forward as the midrange on the HE-500 or HE-5LE. I wrote about it here in my review thread as well:

 

REVIEW - HiFiMan HE-560 Planar Magnetic Headphones - Stock Headphone Impressions here, No Mods...

post #875 of 9349

^We are talking mid-range in general or lower mid-range? I mean, the 500 and 5le don't exactly have emphasized high mids..

post #876 of 9349
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post
 

 

 

Yes, the midrange of the HE-560 and HE-6 is not as forward as the midrange on the HE-500 or HE-5LE. I wrote about it here in my review thread as well:

 

REVIEW - HiFiMan HE-560 Planar Magnetic Headphones - Stock Headphone Impressions here, No Mods...

I kinda think HE500s have a funner sound signature, with HE560 being more accurate. But "fun" is so subjective when the headphones in consideration are both so close to neutral I guess. For me it means more bass, lusher, more organic and forgiving with enough treble not to sound dim, which is exactly HE500. HE560 is more exciting because of the flatter upper mids and more extended treble, but I definitely enjoy it in a different way.

post #877 of 9349
Question, if you were walking around your house doing chores and you had your headphones on, which phone (560/500) would you say would you notice more of the music with if you weren't paying attention and focusing on the music?
post #878 of 9349
Quote:
Originally Posted by DoctaCosmos View Post

Question, if you were walking around your house doing chores and you had your headphones on, which phone (560/500) would you say would you notice more of the music with if you weren't paying attention and focusing on the music?

 

That's an interesting question.  Are you suggesting jerg, et al., need to do some cleaning?? ;)

 

Might depend on what kind of chores you're doing.  Vacuuming is right out.  Also, I can't imagine wearing my HE-500s anywhere but in a comfy chair.  I'd want something lighter for walking around, plus something that can be driven by a portable amp.  In the end I'd slap on the K550s and tune the world out.

post #879 of 9349
Quote:
Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post
 

 

 

Yes, the midrange of the HE-560 and HE-6 is not as forward as the midrange on the HE-500 or HE-5LE. I wrote about it here in my review thread as well:

 

REVIEW - HiFiMan HE-560 Planar Magnetic Headphones - Stock Headphone Impressions here, No Mods...

dang it, just when I was reconsidering selling stuff for it. I still want to hear it though. Its just that my endgame for a while has to have full mids like the he500. I also wonder if it having an expansive soundstage makes it less cohesive like an akg or something. I doubt that though, just a little smidgen curious there.

so far it reads a smidge v-shape above neutral.

post #880 of 9349
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post
 

dang it, just when I was reconsidering selling stuff for it. I still want to hear it though. Its just that my endgame for a while has to have full mids like the he500. I also wonder if it having an expansive soundstage makes it less cohesive like an akg or something. I doubt that though, just a little smidgen curious there.

so far it reads a smidge v-shape above neutral.

I honestly think midrange is too complex to be categorized into 1 entity. HE500 has forward mid-midrange, but is fairly recessed in the mid-upper midrange, and rises back in the upper midrange. Meanwhile HE560 doesn't have that mid-midrange bloom, but is fuller in the mid-upper midrange, and is about the same in the upper midrange.

 

So HE500 is LUSHER than HE560, but HE560 is more FORWARD than HE500. If lushness is the judging trait for "fullness" of midrange then HE500 has fuller mids, but if overall flat midrange presence from low all the way to upper mids is what consitutes "full midrange" then HE560 has fuller mids.

 

Again, terminologies and their limitations.


Edited by jerg - 4/5/14 at 10:32am
post #881 of 9349
I think that the Vali will be good with the 560, no ?
post #882 of 9349

Vali should be pretty good.

post #883 of 9349
Quote:
Originally Posted by jerg View Post
 

I honestly think midrange is too complex to be categorized into 1 entity. HE500 has forward mid-midrange, but is fairly recessed in the mid-upper midrange, and rises back in the upper midrange. Meanwhile HE560 doesn't have that mid-midrange bloom, but is fuller in the mid-upper midrange, and is about the same in the upper midrange.

 

So HE500 is LUSHER than HE560, but HE560 is more FORWARD than HE500. If lushness is the judging trait for "fullness" of midrange then HE500 has fuller mids, but if overall flat midrange presence from low all the way to upper mids is what consitutes "full midrange" then HE560 has fuller mids.

 

Again, terminologies and their limitations.

he he, that does it! I am back to considering it again.  How does it fair with hip hop, reggae etc? The only headphone I had with a really wide soundstage was the akg k712 and it wasn't cohesive. I know this is a whole next level of an actually natural sounding width where the akg k712 sounded artificial and restricted though it was wide, but excuse my reference because that is all I know for large soundstage in width. I did have the he500 but didnt find it superwide and the lcd2 is meh in soundstage to me. 

post #884 of 9349
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post
 

he he, that does it! I am back to considering it again.  How does it fair with hip hop, reggae etc? The only headphone I had with a really wide soundstage was the akg k712 and it wasn't cohesive. I know this is a whole next level of an actually natural sounding width where the akg k712 sounded artificial and restricted though it was wide, but excuse my reference because that is all I know for large soundstage in width. I did have the he500 but didnt find it superwide and the lcd2 is meh in soundstage to me. 

I get what you're saying, a soundstage needs to be both good in quantity (the holographic size of it) and quality (how convincing the "out of the head" cues are; some call it the 3D imaging capability). HE500 has a fairly constricted and oval headstage but every audio cue is convincing in where they are placed, even if most of them happen to be somewhere inside your cranium in spatial projection.

 

I commented as soon as I put the HE560s on over a week ago that the 3D imaging was phenomenal, that was what jumped out to me asap. Then after a few days I felt for how large the soundstage was and commented on that also (first post this thread), where it is substantially wider to the sides, and slightly deeper forward, compared to my HE500. The combination of the headstage being sufficiently large and the great imaging makes these killer for anything where you need the soundstage to perform (binaural recordings, films, gaming), and I've tried all of those and came away impressed.

 

That said, the depth of the headstage still isn't super; I suspect that is more of a matter of how angled the drivers are toward the ears (the new earpads are very slightly angled, but not nearly as much as say Audeze pads, or the angling of the HD800 for instance).

post #885 of 9349
Quote:
Originally Posted by jerg View Post
 

I get what you're saying, a soundstage needs to be both good in quantity (the holographic size of it) and quality (how convincing the "out of the head" cues are; some call it the 3D imaging capability). HE500 has a fairly constricted and oval headstage but every audio cue is convincing in where they are placed, even if most of them happen to be somewhere inside your cranium in spatial projection.

 

I commented as soon as I put the HE560s on over a week ago that the 3D imaging was phenomenal, that was what jumped out to me asap. Then after a few days I felt for how large the soundstage was and commented on that also (first post this thread), where it is substantially wider to the sides, and slightly deeper forward, compared to my HE500. The combination of the headstage being sufficiently large and the great imaging makes these killer for anything where you need the soundstage to perform (binaural recordings, films, gaming), and I've tried all of those and came away impressed.

 

That said, the depth of the headstage still isn't super; I suspect that is more of a matter of how angled the drivers are toward the ears (the new earpads are very slightly angled, but not nearly as much as say Audeze pads, or the angling of the HD800 for instance).

I'll say HE-500 had excellent imaging at it's sides but meh in the centerstage. Not convincing enough for me. Also, agreed with the oval soundstage.

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Headphones (full-size)
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Headphones (full-size) › = HiFiMAN HE-560 Impressions & Discussion Thread =