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post #691 of 8166
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post
 

The fazors are solid (aluminum?) blocks of weight though, so it is a direct sacrifice of comfort for an unknown amount of SQ improvement. I say unknown because the only experience people have had with the fazors is on X and XC, which have always had the fazors; so the difference with/without it objectively is still unknown to the public.

 

Audeze themselves confirmed putting Fazor on LCD-3. People getting their drivers updated all have found a difference in sound and it's been reported for awhile. Only today I am hearing the actual confirmation from Audeze to support that.

post #692 of 8166
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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post
 

I would prefer a model that doesn't need to modded at all. Cable upgrade would be as far as I'd be willing to go.

 

Oh, I hear ya.  Was just going to +1 your post on taking their time to get it right, no revisions.  Some people just like to mod :D  I prefer simple, (inter)changeable mods like the grills or pads.  I prefer not to have to stick felt on drivers, or cut holes in plastic and add felt to baffles... things that should be taken care of in the design phase.  So, I'm with you.  jerg's acoustical tweaks to the HE-500s are all good things, IMO, esp. when used together.  And they're all reversible, or can be swapped with different things (e.g., grill material).  And pads... that goes without saying.  I'm hoping the new pads will make me stop messing with that, though I will definitely try the Q701 pads on them.  Very interested in that comparison.

 

But yeah, being optimized and sounding good out of the box should be the goal.  The reviews seem to point to that.  I like the one that said they're good for '70s/'80s rock :beerchug:

post #693 of 8166
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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post
 

 

Audeze themselves confirmed putting Fazor on LCD-3. People getting their drivers updated all have found a difference in sound and it's been reported for awhile. Only today I am hearing the actual confirmation from Audeze to support that.

Wait they unassumingly sneaked it in?

post #694 of 8166
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post
 

Wait they unassumingly sneaked it in?

 

Start reading from this post onwards.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/575751/new-audeze-lcd3/8670#post_10402368

post #695 of 8166
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Originally Posted by ThurstonX View Post
 

 

Oh, I hear ya.  Was just going to +1 your post on taking their time to get it right, no revisions.  Some people just like to mod :D  I prefer simple, (inter)changeable mods like the grills or pads.  I prefer not to have to stick felt on drivers, or cut holes in plastic and add felt to baffles... things that should be taken care of in the design phase.  So, I'm with you.  jerg's acoustical tweaks to the HE-500s are all good things, IMO, esp. when used together.  And they're all reversible, or can be swapped with different things (e.g., grill material).  And pads... that goes without saying.  I'm hoping the new pads will make me stop messing with that, though I will definitely try the Q701 pads on them.  Very interested in that comparison.

 

But yeah, being optimized and sounding good out of the box should be the goal.  The reviews seem to point to that.  I like the one that said they're good for '70s/'80s rock :beerchug:

Yup. :D Also summer's coming soon, so I don't mind waiting a few more weeks or months. NBA and NHL playoffs will start and the weather will get better. That should be enough to keep me busy. Maybe I'm old school like that, but I really prefer for them to get it done perfectly and see if the changes have any impacts over time. 

post #696 of 8166

I notice now that the bass is becoming more punchy. Fast and more articulate 

post #697 of 8166

Yeah, it's closing the gap a bit, but I'm still finding the HE-6 more impactful, especially treble and bass.

 

But the HE-560 has a wider and more even soundstage presentation. 

post #698 of 8166
I was overwhelmed by hearing about the fazor but with time I realized that while the sound is great I always felt like I had headphones on. I always knew they where on my head which bothered me. The way the pads are, I always felt like the sound was getting tunneled to my ears and it bothered me. Then there was the fazor itself touching my ears.... Who knows though. Probably have to own them and then adjust.
post #699 of 8166

I will start doing comparisons to the hE6 but the comfort on these is much better. Strings are really good on this headphone. I like the signature. The bass is tight and they are dynamic when the recording is dynamic. Nothing offensive in the presentation.

post #700 of 8166
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Originally Posted by Frank I View Post

I will start doing comparisons to the hE6 but the comfort on these is much better. Strings are really good on this headphone. I like the signature. The bass is tight and they are dynamic when the recording is dynamic. Nothing offensive in the presentation.
Can't wait to hear the comparison with the 6
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Edited by Headphoner - 4/2/14 at 12:04am
post #702 of 8166
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Originally Posted by tigon_ridge View Post
 

 

A graphic equalizer to a parametric equalizer is as a pickaxe to a chisel. For my purpose, a graphic equalizer is almost useless and the day that portable players will have a parametric EQ is the day I will consider spending good money on them.

 

This is what I mean. Once you master the art of EQ, you can literally get what you want without introducing unwanted aspects such as auditory masking. Auditory masking occurs when you boost/attenuate a frequency far beyond what is natural/realistic/"neutral." If you continuous test your changes with a frequency sweep, you can tell where you erred and then make further (surgical) changes accordingly. It's a tedious task indeed.

 

Sorry if I came off as a bit impatient. Wasn't intended.

 

Keep in mind that everything we hear is already EQ'd by mixing engineers. The very equipments that they use to monitor their sounds, are also EQ'd, often to be as neutral as possible. There is absolutely no reason why you shouldn't EQ your own equipment as well, to increase your listening pleasures. If you are unwilling to do so because of the daunting learning curve and task, that's totally understandable. I really really really wish I could bring my stuff to a meet, and have people test out my EQ'd system. I would be shocked if people don't agree that there's an immediate improvement.

 

EDIT: Sorry to derail the thread. EQ is my personal specialty, so I couldn't help but comment on it.

 

Regarding your EQing, what software do you use for the parametric equalizer and for the frequency sweeps?


Edited by Headphoner - 4/1/14 at 11:59pm
post #703 of 8166
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Regarding your EQing, what software do you use for the parametric equalizer and for the frequency sweeps?

REW (Room EQ Wizard).

post #704 of 8166

I am very, very interested in these cans, and will more than likely get a pair....especially after all of these reviews.....great job, Jerg :smile:

 

I will wait for awhile before purchasing, so I can see if there will be any revisions and such....but they are very much on my radar and I already have the money saved up.

 

Which and how many amps have you used, Jerg ?

post #705 of 8166
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Originally Posted by tigon_ridge View Post
 
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Originally Posted by Headphoner View Post
 

 

Regarding your EQing, what software do you use for the parametric equalizer and for the frequency sweeps?

REW (Room EQ Wizard).

I use foobar with electri-Q (using a VST wrapper). Else, I just use sinegen for sine waves.

 

How does REW work, does it effects work on all windows sound?


Edited by davidsh - 4/2/14 at 3:35am
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