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post #4441 of 10896
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post
 

When I took my preorder and production pads off to take pictures of them side by side, both were the exact same thickness.

 

 

what i meant was, when the hp is placed on ones head, do they compress similarly or does one feel stiffer or more compliant than the other?

 

it probably is the material change in the inner lining of the pads that may be the cause of the 4k bump but i was wondering if the distance

between the ears and the transducers have changed as well.

post #4442 of 10896
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Originally Posted by takezo View Post


what i meant was, when the hp is placed on ones head, do they compress similarly or does one feel stiffer or more compliant than the other?

it probably is the material change in the inner lining of the pads that may be the cause of the 4k bump but i was wondering if the distance
between the ears and the transducers have changed as well.

I believe the new pads are stiffer, thus decompress less.
Might be better for longevity.
post #4443 of 10896

thanks for the reply. hope to be hearing thru these soon to decide for myself.

post #4444 of 10896

There are folks who specifically ordered the PADS... I have no interest in buying the HE-560. I just wanted the pads for my HE-4. People reported that they (the pre-production version) are less trebly than the velour pads are while more comfortable and more even-sounding than pleather pads.

 

It bothers me that the production version is more treble happy as I only wanted something like Hifiman pleathers - smooth and forgiving, with better level of comfort... Pleather pads matched the HE-4 better than velour pads which are more treble happy.


Edited by Ron12 - 7/5/14 at 12:47pm
post #4445 of 10896

They are great pads, no question.

The production looks much nicer (not only for the matched stitching, but the damping work on the pleather looks nice). The pre-production were softer but also less durable (one of mine wore off a bit after 4 weeks).

post #4446 of 10896
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Originally Posted by Clemmaster View Post
 

They are great pads, no question.

The production looks much nicer (not only for the matched stitching, but the damping work on the pleather looks nice). The pre-production were softer but also less durable (one of mine wore off a bit after 4 weeks).


What do you mean it wore off?

I'm in the camp where I prefer a reference headphone. Linear and neutral is the way to go. A spike in treble is about the worst to me. High pitched sounds are about the worst for anyone I would think. Pre-production pads with the durability of the production ones ftw?

post #4447 of 10896
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Originally Posted by SoAmusing777 View Post


What do you mean it wore off?


I'm in the camp where I prefer a reference headphone. Linear and neutral is the way to go. A spike in treble is about the worst to me. High pitched sounds are about the worst for anyone I would think. Pre-production pads with the durability of the production ones ftw?

Graphs don't tell the whole story all the time... Just because you see it doesn't mean you'll hear it biggrin.gif
post #4448 of 10896
This is one of the silliest threads on head-fi. This sets a bad precedent for a great many manufacturers (included many in the audio world) who look at events like this and think: "gee, look at that mess HFM got into. We'd better not let the consumer have any say."
How many other companies take consumer input so seriously?
If I were a manufacturer this would make me that much more trepid about asking the community for input, or listening to feedback.

Also, manufacturing concerns might be at play: expense, speed of production, and other construction factors. The pre-production and production models sound so close that frankly, you won't magically love one and hate the other. If it's for you, you'll hear it. If not, no amount of pad changing is going to make this a night-and-day difference.
I know this hobby is a lot about details, but c'mon guys, chill until you hear it.
post #4449 of 10896
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Originally Posted by conquerator2 View Post


Graphs don't tell the whole story all the time... Just because you see it doesn't mean you'll hear it biggrin.gif


Yeah, that's true. Just quite a big deal to me as I wanna get them. They're gonna be my endgame headphone. Largely because it seems to be the best planar there is, besides the modded Code-X, which is over $1000. One big tipping point for me was reading that a Stax addicted guy said these bested the 007 while only being bested by the 009 itself.

post #4450 of 10896
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Originally Posted by ThePianoMan View Post

This is one of the silliest threads on head-fi. This sets a bad precedent for a great many manufacturers (included many in the audio world) who look at events like this and think: "gee, look at that mess HFM got into. We'd better not let the consumer have any say."
How many other companies take consumer input so seriously?
If I were a manufacturer this would make me that much more trepid about asking the community for input, or listening to feedback.

Also, manufacturing concerns might be at play: expense, speed of production, and other construction factors. The pre-production and production models sound so close that frankly, you won't magically love one and hate the other. If it's for you, you'll hear it. If not, no amount of pad changing is going to make this a night-and-day difference.
I know this hobby is a lot about details, but c'mon guys, chill until you hear it.


Suppose I quite agree with that, but, dunno, this is Head-Fi. We're all about that last ounce, lol.

post #4451 of 10896
Hey, like I said, we're all chasing that last ounce, but if you haven't heard it yet, doesn't it make more sense to wait and see about the sound?
post #4452 of 10896
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Originally Posted by SoAmusing777 View Post

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Originally Posted by conquerator2 View Post

Graphs don't tell the whole story all the time... Just because you see it doesn't mean you'll hear it biggrin.gif


Yeah, that's true. Just quite a big deal to me as I wanna get them. They're gonna be my endgame headphone. Largely because it seems to be the best planar there is, besides the modded Code-X, which is over $1000. One big tipping point for me was reading that a Stax addicted guy said these bested the 007 while only being bested by the 009 itself.
There's still the HE-6 and LCD-3, X and XC which are at the very least comparable if not better. And I doubt the 560 is technically superior or a league above the 007 generally speaking, it's probably more about preference.
post #4453 of 10896
I read these threads all the time because there is a lot of information, but this thread is always people complaining about something, if you had the old pads everyone would bitch about the stitching, try the phones if you like them which I do keep them if not return them so many people just hate everything
post #4454 of 10896
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Originally Posted by SoAmusing777 View Post
 


 Largely because it seems to be the best planar there is, besides the modded Code-X, which is over $1000. One big tipping point for me was reading that a Stax addicted guy said these bested the 007 while only being bested by the 009 itself.

please tell me you are kidding.....

post #4455 of 10896
Alright,
I won't make any more comments about these untill I receive them next week, hopefully.
I'll be just lurking in the shadows till then biggrin.gif
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