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post #4036 of 17297
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Originally Posted by xoriac View Post
 

can you tell me the cheapest amp/dac for the HE - 560?

 

I've also been looking at the Schiit Modi Mangi combo.  Haven't tried it out though. 

post #4037 of 17297
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I've also been looking at the Schiit Modi Mangi combo.  Haven't tried it out though. 

M&M combo sounded great to me on the new HiFiMan cans.
post #4038 of 17297

 

That looks a lot like the Fiio E09K from the casing...  Though the E09K has a docking port on top. 

post #4039 of 17297
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post
 

 

 

the build quality is pretty impressive, but their sound... i just don't feel that they are worth the money. to me the sound signature was quite warm and the headphones themselves reminded me of the bower and wilkins p7 alot.. LOL.

 

 

anyways, me calling them garbage definitely stirs up some trouble :D

 

 

 

 

hifiman really needs to get their build quality up... and maybe make a piano black pair of HE-560.

 

I don't feel that the Oppo sounded like garbage...  LOL, the warm signature was nice to have, they had a more aggressive lower-midrange in contrast to the P7.  I actually enjoyed the P7 quite a bit though, it was an acquired taste, however. 

 

Besides the use of plastic, the build doesn't seem that problematic with the HiFiMan to me...  Yes, Aluminum would have been nice for the rotating pieces...  I feel a lot of people don't like the connectors either :p  Do they feel as prestigious as the Oppo, not entirely. 


Edited by tinyman392 - 6/29/14 at 8:40am
post #4040 of 17297
I see the Oppo as a lifestyle/consumer oriented headphone. Just like the P7. Not necessarily a purist audiophiles cup of tea, but build, comfort, etc and looks are more important to some. Also the easy to listen sound sig. It's not all about sound signature, let's be real, and with the rise of headphones even older well-established and monied folks are buying things. $1100 for headphones for son executive who wants to show off, or wants something very nice, but isn't a traditional audiophile would certainly purchase these. I think the most significant thing about the Oppo is what that they represent the headphone entry into that area of market, which is rather new. If you like the sound, and feel, but it. That's all that matters.

Can we get back to the 560 discussion now please? In eager to hear more about the topic of the thread : )
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I see the Oppo as a lifestyle/consumer oriented headphone. Just like the P7. Not necessarily a purist audiophiles cup of tea, but build, comfort, etc and looks are more important to some. Also the easy to listen sound sig. It's not all about sound signature, let's be real, and with the rise of headphones even older well-established and monied folks are buying things. $1100 for headphones for son executive who wants to show off, or wants something very nice, but isn't a traditional audiophile would certainly purchase these. I think the most significant thing about the Oppo is what that they represent the headphone entry into that area of market, which is rather new. If you like the sound, and feel, but it. That's all that matters.

Can we get back to the 560 discussion now please? In eager to hear more about the topic of the thread : )

 

 

this.

 

i do like their build quality, but the sound..

post #4042 of 17297
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Originally Posted by Cante Ista View Post
 

subbed. Still deciding whether I should get this headphone considering that I have and love HE6. Wonder whether it would be redundant or a step down (in which case not money well spend IMO)

Redundant step-down, of course, if you are referring to SQ.

post #4043 of 17297
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Redundant step-down, of course, if you are referring to SQ.

Wait so i the HE-6 still considered to be a masterpiece of perfection (if you overlook the power requirements)? I have only read a couple pages of this thread, but I thought the general consensus would be that the 560 really brings some new SQ to the table to basically trump previous Hifiman products. 

post #4044 of 17297
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Wait so i the HE-6 still considered to be a masterpiece of perfection (if you overlook the power requirements)? I have only read a couple pages of this thread, but I thought the general consensus would be that the 560 really brings some new SQ to the table to basically trump previous Hifiman products. 

I certainly hope that this is the case. Time will tell!

post #4045 of 17297
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Originally Posted by goldenSHK View Post

Wait so i the HE-6 still considered to be a masterpiece of perfection (if you overlook the power requirements)? I have only read a couple pages of this thread, but I thought the general consensus would be that the 560 really brings some new SQ to the table to basically trump previous Hifiman products. 
It does bring:
- Comfort
- Imaging
- Speed
- Bass punch/impact

Should these attributes not be your top priorities, the HE-6 is ultimately a better headphone. More detailed and more meat on the bones. Bigger soundstage (mostly depth; the 560 is as big/bigger in width).
The 560 are lighter, almost stat-like.
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Originally Posted by Clemmaster View Post


It does bring:
- Comfort
- Imaging
- Speed
- Bass punch/impact

Should these attributes not be your top priorities, the HE-6 is ultimately a better headphone. More detailed and more meat on the bones. Bigger soundstage (mostly depth; the 560 is as big/bigger in width).
The 560 are lighter, almost stat-like.

Well if they truly do perform the same in every other SQ category, but have improved imaging, speed, and bass then I'd say that's pretty definitive that the 560 is better than the 6. Thanks for the input, but is this the general consensus or is this anecdotal opinion? If it's majority then it becomes factual that SQ of 6 < SQ of 560. 

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The 6 still has its place in the headphone world, but HiFiMan seems to be embracing their own sound more, and pushing the limits of what they can do with Orthos that don't have that thick/heavy/dark signature a la Audeze. The new line is different, better in some ways. I think HiFiMan has shifted the line up and sideways in price/performance. The 400i is more sideways to the 500, but up from the 400. The 560 is up from the 500 but sideways from the 6. I expect there will be an above $1000 can in a few months or a year or two that bests the HE-6 quite audibly with more of the new sound sig. Just my guess. The new line distinguishes itself better from competitors than the old line did though, IMO.

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Also take into account the he6 is harder to drive to reach it's potential,
So it is possible that depending on your gear,
The 560 may sound more or equally impressive due to being easier to drive
post #4049 of 17297
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Originally Posted by ThePianoMan View Post

I expect there will be an above $1000 can in a few months or a year or two that bests the HE-6 quite audibly with more of the new sound sig. Just my guess.

That's kinda what I'm holding out for...
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Originally Posted by Maxx134 View Post

Also take into account the he6 is harder to drive to reach it's potential,
So it is possible that depending on your gear,
The 560 may sound more or equally impressive due to being easier to drive

 
That's a really good point, as the people I know who have or have had the he-6 spent a lot of time and money finding the right amp/source for them.  With the 560 that won't be as much of a problem and may cost far less $ and effort in the long haul.  Doesn't mean properly amplified the HE-6 isn't better, as I did prefer the HE-6 I've heard to the 560 as it had a touch more refinement, but the 560 was really really close for me, and I would surely buy one (560) at this point over an he-6 for the same price.

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