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post #331 of 17297
Sounds like it might be a great pairing with a v200. Probably a wa7 if you need a lusher-gusher
post #332 of 17297
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Did some 3-way comparisons between HE400, 500, and 560 the last hour, specifically on bass performance in music. My tentative conclusion is that HE560's bass impact/punch is somewhere in-between HE500 and 400 (with 500 being the most rumbly, and 400 the hardest-kicking), but in terms of articulation (not being one-notey, good texture) HE560 seems to eclipse both the two others. In terms of extension it is HE500 > HE560 > HE400.

 

Bass is definitely the easiest to compare, treble is next (maybe a few days ~ a week to form a coherent conclusion), and midrange will be the most elusive to interpret.


Edited by jerg - 3/28/14 at 2:29pm
post #333 of 17297

Okay, I didn't quite get that. You're saying the 560 is the most textured and accurate? With the visceral impact going to 500, then 400 and then 560??

post #334 of 17297

I dunno, but sounds like the bass is pretty good, with good texture, sufficient impact, some decent rumble and excellent definition/articulation.

Sounds like the bass really is interesting and not the disappointment I anticipated from the very initial impressions :D

post #335 of 17297
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

Okay, I didn't quite get that. You're saying the 560 is the most textured and accurate? With the visceral impact going to 500, then 400 and then 560??

Punch: 400>560>500

Articulation(texture/clarity of notes and pitches): 560>400=500 (400 not really equal to 500, but each with different shortcomings)

Extension: 500>560>400

post #336 of 17297
What about sound stage that should be the easiest to evaluate and very important to me is it deep wide both
The only thing I liked better about the 400 than the 500 was depth of stage
post #337 of 17297
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post
 

Punch: 400>560>500

Articulation(texture/clarity of notes and pitches): 560>400=500 (400 not really equal to 500, but each with different shortcomings)

Extension: 500>560>400

I am really happy to hear this :] I was starting to think the bass might be a bit anemic but nope! Seems like it's very well balanced and in accordance with mids and highs!

Awesome news and no more bass from me :D

post #338 of 17297
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What about sound stage that should be the easiest to evaluate and very important to me is it deep wide both
The only thing I liked better about the 400 than the 500 was depth of stage
Initial impression of soundstage isn't too hard to judge, but soundstage and imaging is 2 sides of the same coin making it hard to fully describe the soundstage without in depth knowledge of the headphone methinks. Many factors...
post #339 of 17297
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Originally Posted by tuna47 View Post

What about sound stage that should be the easiest to evaluate and very important to me is it deep wide both
The only thing I liked better about the 400 than the 500 was depth of stage

It's hard for me to gauge the holographic size of the soundstage without feeling like I am making things up.

 

I will say that these have a much more convincing soundstage than my two other Hifiman cans, because of the sheer openness of the sound, neutrality / accurate timbre, and treble extension / airiness, and fast transient response. Listening to binaural recordings, I still have to close my eyes with HE500s/400s and force my brain into believing that things are projected outward, with these I can have my eyes open and my brain still gets tricked.


Edited by jerg - 3/28/14 at 2:53pm
post #340 of 17297
Thanks
post #341 of 17297

What's the best source for binaural recordings?

 

I don't think they are very common as none of the albums I own come in binaural in any way, form or shape :/

 

Chesky does some, but that's about all I've heard of.

post #342 of 17297
Excellent continuous impressions Jerg. Thank you very much!

Having heard all of them, I certainly can relate to what you're saying.
The comparison of bass between the 400s and 500s is spot on: overall, if you have to rate the quality of both (using different attributes that define what bass is), they come out equal. They certainly are not similar: the 400s is tighter / cleaner (less distortion) bit the 500s has more impact and rumble (more distortion) that matches the overall philosophy of this cans.

The 560 seems to be taking the philosophy of the HE-4 but with more refinement and less fun voicing (not U-shaped with punchy bass; rather more similar to the HE-5LE here).
I REALLY like what you're telling us so far!
Edited by Clemmaster - 3/28/14 at 4:24pm
post #343 of 17297
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I REALLY like what you're telling us so far!

+1

post #344 of 17297

Well, every great headphone should make a head-fier happy :D But this one... Oh, man. Where will the good stop? Oops, jinxed it... not!

post #345 of 17297
Conquerator if you have Spotify look up binaural. I suggest amber rubarth sessions from the 17th ward(a number around there) might not be your type of music but it's neat. Suggest start with track three and turn it up a bit louder than usual
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