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post #316 of 17297
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Meanwhile im getting people saying the O2 is more than enough for the HE4...

 

Don't mess with the o2 crowd. They will punch you and take your lunch money. Already happened to me. 

post #317 of 17297
Yeah, I noticed. All I get is numbers and data. THEY NUMBERS... THEY MEAN EVERYTHING.
post #318 of 17297
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Originally Posted by Edwood View Post

If you have the HE-6 and are having issues with sibilance, a better source and amp will help.  But the cheapest fix will be the new ear pads.  I have tried them with the HE-6 and it helps take a slight edge off the treble harshness of some bad recordings.  jerg inspired design on these pads really make a difference there.  That said, I've never really had an issue with the treble of the HE-6, in fact it's one of my favorite features.

I had tried a lot of DAC, AMP and finally stay with eximus dp1 and ef6. I think they're pretty good and satisfy me enough. In my system most headphones that have the best details are also have sibilance problems (HD800, PS1000, HE6) except Abyss which has incredible details without sibilance. May be it's because Abyss produce less distortion. I think LCD3 and X have no sibilance because they are less details and more forgive.

If he560 has less distortion than He6 (and ps1000, hd800), it should has less sibilance.
Edited by chirawatf - 3/28/14 at 8:33am
post #319 of 17297
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Meanwhile im getting people saying the O2 is more than enough for the HE4...

It is abysmal with the HE-500, I cant imagine it sounding good with the HE4.

 

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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

 

Don't mess with the o2 crowd. They will punch you and take your lunch money. Already happened to me. 

Ha. "you must not like neutrality". :wink:

post #320 of 17297
It's a WIRE with GAIN...




On topic, I'd venture a guess and say the 560 would pair up best with warmish amps?

Audio-GD stuff sounds ideal to me... always. Except the sabre ES9018 equipped ones which I found very neutral. Hope they got the Wolfson dac setups back in stock.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 3/28/14 at 8:41am
post #321 of 17297
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Originally Posted by chirawatf View Post


I had tried a lot of DAC, AMP and finally stay with eximus dp1 and ef6. I think they're pretty good and satisfy me enough. In my system most headphones that have the best details are also have sibilance problems (HD800, PS1000, HE6) except Abyss which has incredible details without sibilance. May be it's because Abyss produce less distortion. I think LCD3 and X have no sibilance because they are less details and more forgive.

If he560 has less distortion than He6 (and ps1000, hd800), it should has less sibilance.

It's not that simple...sibilance is a complicated issue, it's due to a combination of upper mids / treble FR, distortion, ringing (which is largely independent of distortion), and the music. Just having more or less distortion isn't enough to determine anything.

post #322 of 17297
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Originally Posted by Fearless1 View Post
 

It is abysmal with the HE-500, I cant imagine it sounding good with the HE4.

 

Ha. "you must not like neutrality". :wink:

 

This is their secret go-to trap card. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.:angry_face: 

post #323 of 17297
Any of the reviewers heard the lcd-x? If so, any thoughts. From what I've read, seems like this might be a great comparison. Minus the hefty weight and price of the x
post #324 of 17297
Frank, I don't have any experience with the WA5 but you said it's a pretty transparent amp. Do you happen to have any tubey amps with a good amount of current?
I'm actually very excited to hear about a pairing like this. Too bad dubstepgirl went solid state because she couldn't drive her beloved 6 out of her even more beloved tubes. This might be her headphone.
post #325 of 17297

Jerg, you havent yet commented on the HE-560 vs the HE-400 which you own. How does they're bass compare in terms of speed, tightness, thump, extensions, and finally you're preference. Also other aspects like soundstage, air, mids and the like.

 

I'm strongly considering either the HE-560 or HE-400i, but I'm not sure the HE-560's tonal balance is to my liking. I'm hoping the HE-400i will be a little darker than the HE-560 and have bass closer to the HE-400 in terms of presence.


Edited by beaver316 - 3/28/14 at 9:08am
post #326 of 17297
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Originally Posted by chirawatf View Post


I had tried a lot of DAC, AMP and finally stay with eximus dp1 and ef6. I think they're pretty good and satisfy me enough. In my system most headphones that have the best details are also have sibilance problems (HD800, PS1000, HE6) except Abyss which has incredible details without sibilance. May be it's because Abyss produce less distortion. I think LCD3 and X have no sibilance because they are less details and more forgive.

If he560 has less distortion than He6 (and ps1000, hd800), it should has less sibilance.

 

The Abyss was measured before, and it does have significantly more distortion than the LCD-3 and especially the HE-6 particularly in the bass measurements.

post #327 of 17297
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

It's a WIRE with GAIN...




On topic, I'd venture a guess and say the 560 would pair up best with warmish amps?

Audio-GD stuff sounds ideal to me... always. Except the sabre ES9018 equipped ones which I found very neutral. Hope they got the Wolfson dac setups back in stock.

 Walter has rather sharp wires, though :D.

post #328 of 17297
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

 

Don't mess with the o2 crowd. They will punch you and take your lunch money. Already happened to me. 

 

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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Yeah, I noticed. All I get is numbers and data. THEY NUMBERS... THEY MEAN EVERYTHING.

 

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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post
 

 

This is their secret go-to trap card. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.:angry_face: 

 

I'm not a huge fan of the O2. Its a fine little amp, etc. But I'm not sure who has the bigger ax to grind this time, guys. 

post #329 of 17297
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Originally Posted by beaver316 View Post
 

Jerg, you havent yet commented on the HE-560 vs the HE-400 which you own. How does they're bass compare in terms of speed, tightness, thump, extensions, and finally you're preference. Also other aspects like soundstage, air, mids and the like.

 

I'm strongly considering either the HE-560 or HE-400i, but I'm not sure the HE-560's tonal balance is to my liking. I'm hoping the HE-400i will be a little darker than the HE-560 and have bass closer to the HE-400 in terms of presence.

Well, it obviously has to be different enough [much like the 560 is] from the 560.

Remember they're discontinuing practically all their other full-size planars [minus the HE-6].

You can probably count on the 400i being noticeably different  in comparison with the 560.

 

I am not sure either but since I have pre-ordered the 560, I don't have the luxury of doubting my decisions anymore :D

 

But I'll be still very curious about the 400i and what'll comes out of it...

post #330 of 17297
I'm curious about a comparison between the 560 and the HE-4, since it was the first single-ended design, and may be more similar to the 560 than the 500 is.
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