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post #2611 of 17297

Any news on this starting to ship? *cough cough jerg*

post #2612 of 17297
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It sounds thin compared to the AD!

Either the AD's pair I got on loan had an issue or your HE-560 has an issue!

My HE-560 is fuller in the bass than the AD and has more sub-bass impact. I might not have got the best seal on the ADs :confused:.

 

Mid-range is definitely thicker on the ADs, but the HE-560 are not thin by my standard: the ADs are thick. YMMV

post #2613 of 17297

I hope there won't be any changes to their sound signature compared to preorder model, they already sound excellent to me. I don't like warm headphones.

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It sounds thin compared to the AD!

Either the AD's pair I got on loan had an issue or your HE-560 has an issue!

My HE-560 is fuller in the bass than the AD and has more sub-bass impact. I might not have got the best seal on the ADs :confused:.

 

Mid-range is definitely thicker on the ADs, but the HE-560 are not thin by my standard: the ADs are thick. YMMV

 

I should have said, running froml speaker taps on any of my amps, the ADs have better bass, on said amp, than the HE-560.  Comparing the HE-560 to either the PM-1, or the AD, the HE-560 sounds thin!  YMMV.

post #2615 of 17297
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I should have said, running froml speaker taps on any of my amps, the ADs have better bass, on said amp, than the HE-560.  Comparing the HE-560 to either the PM-1, or the AD, the HE-560 sounds thin!  YMMV.

If that's a general statement that accounts for the mids and the overall tonality (neutral vs. dark, by my standard), then yes, the 560 sound thinner, no question.

 

We set our standard at different level, and there's nothing wrong with that :)!

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It's closer to the AD than any Audeze, for sure.

 

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It sounds thin compared to the AD!

Hmmm...  Maybe I just didn't spend enough time with the AD to fully adjust or perhaps it just had bad synergy with my setup.  All I know is that upon initial listen I immediately regretted selling my HE-500's for the AD.  They were very clean sounding and did well with orchestra music but for pretty much everything else they were, for a lack of a better term, just boring.

 

The AD needs a cable upgrade from the Canare stock cable, the sound opens up, IMO.  Most don't believe in cables sounding different.  DHC Synergy cable is great with the AD.  I don't use the stock cable at all!

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So is the 560 midrange thin? eek.gif

Hell no.

 

Frank I review of the PM-1, he thought the HE-560 was thin compared to the PM-1.  After I listen to AD or PM-1 for a while, and go back to the HE-560, it sounds thin in comparison.  YMMV!

post #2618 of 17297
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Frank I review of the PM-1, he thought the HE-560 was thin compared to the PM-1.  After I listen to AD or PM-1 for a while, and go back to the HE-560, it sounds thin in comparison.  YMMV!

By comparison.

This is not a fact: the HE-560 is not thin in the grand scheme of things (compared to all the headphones around).

 

One could also say the ADs and PM-1 are thick, too.

post #2619 of 17297
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By comparison.

This is not a fact: the HE-560 is not thin in the grand scheme of things (compared to all the headphones around).

 

One could also say the ADs and PM-1 are thick, too.

 

All comes down to semantics and preferences, but I found those two hp's somewhat thick/dark sounding. Buy hey, I like think/dark sounding hp's. 

post #2620 of 17297
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Frank I review of the PM-1, he thought the HE-560 was thin compared to the PM-1.  After I listen to AD or PM-1 for a while, and go back to the HE-560, it sounds thin in comparison.  YMMV!

By comparison.

This is not a fact: the HE-560 is not thin in the grand scheme of things (compared to all the headphones around).

 

One could also say the ADs and PM-1 are thick, too.

 

I like the HE-560 because they are light and airy like an upgrade to the HE-4 that I had.  For me both the HE-500 and HE-6 were too thick, too much sub/mid bass making the HE-500 sound slightly muddy....but I sent both of those back before the 30 days hoping the HE-560 would sound closer to the HE-4 with the single magnets.  I am happy with them the way they are, hope they don't change that with the replacement of the preorder pair!

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All comes down to semantics and preferences, but I found those two hp's somewhat thick/dark sounding. Buy hey, I like think/dark sounding hp's. 

Exactly. And there's nothing wrong with having preferences (it took me a while to understand that, but I'm still young so people forgive me :ph34r:).

 

I personally have difficulties with thick and dark but I do understand how some people could like that. The Mad Dogs (3.0) were an interesting experience for me: the dark sound didn't fit my preference but somehow I didn't want to part with it!

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All comes down to semantics and preferences, but I found those two hp's somewhat thick/dark sounding. Buy hey, I like think/dark sounding hp's. 

Exactly. And there's nothing wrong with having preferences (it took me a while to understand that, but I'm still young so people forgive me :ph34r:).

 

I personally have difficulties with thick and dark but I do understand how some people could like that. The Mad Dogs (3.0) were an interesting experience for me: the dark sound didn't fit my preference but somehow I didn't want to part with it!


I agree that the AD with the stock cable sounds thick, maybe the PM-1 with the stock cable as well.....but I don't use the stock cable on either, so my comments may be misleading. 

post #2623 of 17297
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It is nothing like the HE-500, don't worry.

It is a fuller and more refined HE-4, with a neutral frequency response.

Hmm I was hoping for a cheaper and easier-to drive HE-6 replacement. Heavier than HE-4 and twice the price doesn't really attract me.
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Hmm I was hoping for a cheaper and easier-to drive HE-6 replacement. Heavier than HE-4 and twice the price doesn't really attract me.

You serious?

 

It's cheaper than HE6.

 

It's MUCH easier to drive than either HE6 or HE4.

 

It is marginally heavier than HE4, much lighter than HE6, and the comfort/ergonomics is leaps and bounds ahead of both. Not even close.

 

Sound quality is way ahead of HE4, and competitive or at least very close to HE6.

 

Your logic makes no sense. 

post #2625 of 17297

One thing I notice over time is the clamping pressure of the 560 though.  I know for certain that hifiman's rather random about the clamping of their headbands, but my 560 clamps a good bit more than the 400.  That combined with a smaller opening/shallower pad makes it a less comfortable experience for my ears.  I'm going to try to stretch out the headband some to see it if helps.

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