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post #1936 of 17297
I agree. Give me the headphones in as cheap and generic a box as possible if it will save the buyer some money. Fancy boxes look nice, but are a waste of funds. If people want a fancy box, they can just buy one. Should be optional, no more. A good carrying case makes a lot more sense, and even that I can do without one, as I can just get my own.

How much money are we saving without these things? Seriously. Makes it sound like the headphone could've been $100 less.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 5/6/14 at 3:35am
post #1937 of 17297
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

I agree. Give me the headphones in as cheap and generic a box as possible if it will save the buyer some money. Fancy boxes look nice, but are a waste of funds. If people want a fancy box, they can just buy one. Should be optional, no more. A good carrying case makes a lot more sense, and even that I can do without one, as I can just get my own.

How much money are we saving without these things? Seriously. Makes it sound like the headphone could've been $100 less.


gado does that, cardboard box,and you can buy fancy wood now if you want one

post #1938 of 17297

Yes, those were fine by me, but I also remember all the negative comments made on the cheap Grado packaging (haven't followed any Grado threads for a good while). For every person that doesn't want to pay for fancy packaging there will be another complaining about how a high end product should have a matching packaging.


Edited by snejk - 5/6/14 at 4:24am
post #1939 of 17297
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Yes, those were fine by me, but I also remember all the negative comments made on the cheap Grado packaging (haven't followed any Grado threads for a good while). For every person that doesn't want to pay for fancy packaging there will be another complaining about how a high end product should have a matching packaging.


well its the old pleasing people thing, you can't please all the people all the time ! lol

i don't have one single box out where anyone could see, or i can see for that matter

they are all in a corner of a closet, and i've never taken one out to admire it, ever, lol

post #1940 of 17297

Well, I use my hifiman boxes as 'stands' as of now. Works fine for stretching the hifimans slightly, which is good as they clamp fairly hard.

post #1941 of 17297
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well its the old pleasing people thing, you can't please all the people all the time ! lol

i don't have one single box out where anyone could see, or i can see for that matter

they are all in a corner of a closet, and i've never taken one out to admire it, ever, lol

+1. I throw mine out which is a problem. If I ever want to sell something later, I will have to invent a good story !

post #1942 of 17297

The pm-1 has the nicest box that I've ever owned or seen. I went to a meet over the weekend and didn't take it for fear of scratching it. :rolleyes:  It's too nice. I opted for the travel case instead. 

 

I would opt out of the fancy box if it were optional. 

post #1943 of 17297
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Originally Posted by Ultrainferno View Post
 

Listened for an hour or so yesterday. I'm not too impressed with the build quality, the wood isn't that good (like Audeze) and the pads stitching is below level for this price. The box was full of fingerprints

 

Sound wise these are neutral with no special focus on anything. Sound stage is very good, detail is very good, speed is very good. Bass goes deep with a lot of detail but isn't the punchiest (less than HE-500 and LCD-2), or i should say, doesn't have the biggest body. Treble is very good and extended to my ears. The mids are detailed  and fall perfectly in line with everything else. Enormous clarity.

 

The warm smooth character of the HE-500 on tubes can not be found in this new version, it's a whole new headphone. It's a high level linear non offensive sound. I'm sure some will miss the fun in this headphone but with good recordings and good music this is awesome. (I wouldn't listen to R&B with it though)

 

Comfort wise it is excellent, the headband is superb compared to the HE-500 and the weight decrease is very noticeable. They also made the headphone smaller, the HE-500 is still loose on the small setting for me while I have to extend the headband 2 clicks here.

The only thing I don't like comfort wise are the smaller earpad openings, my ears keep touching the pads. It doesn't bother me but I do prefer my ears to be free

 

I didn't find them that easy to drive actually, but I have only tried them on my 300B amp so far.

Well, it's teak wood, far from the most beautiful but certainly one of the most resilient woods against humidity/temperature fluctuations.

 

Yeah bass has less decay ("body") than the HE500 / LCDs which might be a bit underwhelming first, but honestly once your brain becomes more accustomed to it, it should be punchier / the impacts much more focused than the other 2 (like a quick punch instead of a slow push).

 

Are you writing a full review or do you think this is the extent of your write-up for the time being?


Edited by jerg - 5/6/14 at 6:12am
post #1944 of 17297
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Are you writing a full review or do you think this is the extent of your write-up for the time being?

 

I need to find time to listen more with my different gear and I'm way behind on other work already. I'm sure my impressions will soften of change after a few hours of listening.

What headphone would you say it is closest too? I'm having a hard time figuring that out after the short listen I had.

post #1945 of 17297

Thank you for your early impressions Ultrainferno, really looking forward to a more in-depth review and comparison with LCD-2 / HE-500 (if you planned to do it obviously).

post #1946 of 17297
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

I agree. Give me the headphones in as cheap and generic a box as possible if it will save the buyer some money. Fancy boxes look nice, but are a waste of funds. If people want a fancy box, they can just buy one. Should be optional, no more. A good carrying case makes a lot more sense, and even that I can do without one, as I can just get my own.

How much money are we saving without these things? Seriously. Makes it sound like the headphone could've been $100 less.

 

Oppo has the PM-2 which as far as I understand it's essentially the same thing as the PM-1 without real leather pads and some metal and with no box, for 700$. That is their Hifiman fighter.

post #1947 of 17297
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...The only thing I don't like comfort wise are the smaller earpad openings, my ears keep touching the pads. It doesn't bother me but I do prefer my ears to be free...

 

I'm very confused. Earlier it was mentioned the ear pad openings are identical to the HE-500.

 

I guess I'll have to wait for the HE-560 to compare myself.

post #1948 of 17297

I'd have to measure them tonight but they do feel smaller. I'll get back about that

post #1949 of 17297
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Originally Posted by Ultrainferno View Post

Listened for an hour or so yesterday. I'm not too impressed with the build quality, the wood isn't that good (like Audeze) and the pads stitching is below level for this price. The box was full of fingerprints

Sound wise these are neutral with no special focus on anything. Sound stage is very good, detail is very good, speed is very good. Bass goes deep with a lot of detail but isn't the punchiest (less than HE-500 and LCD-2), or i should say, doesn't have the biggest body. Treble is very good and extended to my ears. The mids are detailed  and fall perfectly in line with everything else. Enormous clarity.

The warm smooth character of the HE-500 on tubes can not be found in this new version, it's a whole new headphone. It's a high level linear non offensive sound. I'm sure some will miss the fun in this headphone but with good recordings and good music this is awesome. (I wouldn't listen to R&B with it though)

Comfort wise it is excellent, the headband is superb compared to the HE-500 and the weight decrease is very noticeable. They also made the headphone smaller, the HE-500 is still loose on the small setting for me while I have to extend the headband 2 clicks here.
The only thing I don't like comfort wise are the smaller earpad openings, my ears keep touching the pads. It doesn't bother me but I do prefer my ears to be free

I didn't find them that easy to drive actually, but I have only tried them on my 300B amp so far.
Wich soundstage is deeper HE -500 or 560 ?
post #1950 of 17297
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post
 

Well, it's teak wood, far from the most beautiful but certainly one of the most resilient woods against humidity/temperature fluctuations.

 

Also teak is grown in a sustainable manner and is a renewable resource.  

 

The Zebrawood or Zebrano that Audeze uses for the LCD-3 is considered a threatened species in its native habitat and is listed as vulnerable due to a population reduction of over 20% in the past three generations, caused by a decline in its natural range.

 

The other choices that Audeze offers for the LCD-2, and XC aren't threatened and the bamboo option for the LCD-2 is their most sustainable choice.

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