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post #181 of 17297
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post
 

Now that the frenzy of questions have died down a bit, I can finally start typing up parts of the first post lol.

Well!? Shake a leg, we're all waiting. :happy_face1:

post #182 of 17297

Linear bass, more air, less lushness... Man it sounds like a more refined HE-5LE... ME LIKEY!

post #183 of 17297
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Originally Posted by Clemmaster View Post
 

Linear bass, more air, less lushness... Man it sounds like a more refined HE-5LE... WE LIKEY!

^_^

post #184 of 17297

This pretty much sounds just like hifiman explained the signature would be....so far at least. 

post #185 of 17297
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Originally Posted by nixkid View Post

 

Sweeet.  Sounds like these are going to cost a bit (maybe a lot) more than $10 once they are available in the hifiman online store but looks like it'll be worth the extra cost.

 

The velours are $10, the pleathers are $20... at least they were when I bought both to make jergpads.  But yeah, I'll bet these will be more, but hopefully not more than $30.  And that would be a good deal by the sound of things.

post #186 of 17297
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Updated first post with some writeup on build/ergonomics.

post #187 of 17297
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I think at some point down the line I will do the re-grilling mod on these, I think their openness is being held back with the stock grills :tongue:

post #188 of 17297
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post
 

I think at some point down the line I will do the re-grilling mod on these, I think their openness is being held back with the stock grills :tongue:

 

Maybe you can confirm with HFM how the retaining rings work.  Hopefully they're the same as the HE-500s and are just stiff cuz they're new.  They should provide a spare set with new orders.

post #189 of 17297

So does this still stand true about the bass? To quote you: "Bass is a bit interesting. It doesn't have the slight upward tilt as you go down toward 30 Hz, unlike HE500, instead it is flat with maybe a very slight slope down below 50 Hz. The audible extension itself gets to 20 Hz though. It's a quite clean-sounding bass. I can't comment on the punch/impact yet, that remains to be seen with music tests."

 

Would you mind commenting a bit a bit on the punch/impact now? If you don't want to publicly yet,please ,shoot me a PM, I'll keep it to myself.

 

I might sound like a bass-head now, with all the questions about bass but I am certainly not :P I love tight bass but at least some punch and/or impact is necessary to retain the bass' properties.

Maybe it has to do with the lower midrange? It is not so much the bass weight, but the overall sound weight and attack. I guess PRaT?

This is found in the midrange mostly I believe, helped by treble [and bass as well of course], the HE-6 midrange was a bit too smooth but since you said the 560 are more mid-forward than the 500 [which are already more midrange romantic than the 6 are, from what I've gathered]... I should just keep calm and carry on probably :D

 

Though I'd hate the sub-bass to be completely recessed... I guess a roll-off below 20hz is fine, then again why a roll-off at all?

 

Again, from what I've gathered the HE-6 is the only HiFiMAN that has this significant roll-off, the rest hit deep pretty fine, so if the 560s are in line with the 500 I should just stop worrying about it, right :P 


Edited by conquerator2 - 3/27/14 at 2:32pm
post #190 of 17297
I believe bass plays a huge role in the overall sound of the headphone just like any other freq. Caring about bass doesn't make you a bass head at all as it still shapes the sound significantly.
post #191 of 17297
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Originally Posted by conquerator2 View Post
 

So does this still stand true about the bass? To quote you: "Bass is a bit interesting. It doesn't have the slight upward tilt as you go down toward 30 Hz, unlike HE500, instead it is flat with maybe a very slight slope down below 50 Hz. The audible extension itself gets to 20 Hz though. It's a quite clean-sounding bass. I can't comment on the punch/impact yet, that remains to be seen with music tests."

 

Would you mind commenting a bit a bit on the punch/impact now? If you don't want to publicly yet,please ,shoot me a PM, I'll keep it to myself.

 

I might sound like a bass-head now, with all the questions about bass but I am certainly not :P I love tight bass but at least some punch and/or impact is necessary to retain the bass' properties.

Maybe it has to do with the lower midrange? It is not so much the bass weight, but the overall sound weight and attack. I guess PRaT?

This is found in the midrange mostly I believe, helped by treble [and bass as well of course], the HE-6 midrange was a bit too smooth but since you said the 560 are more mid-forward than the 500 [which are already more midrange romantic than the 6 are, from what I've gathered]... I should just keep calm and carry on probably :D

 

Though I'd hate the sub-bass to be completely recessed... I guess a roll-off below 20hz is fine, then again why a roll-off at all?

 

Again, from what I've gathered the HE-6 is the only HiFiMAN that has this significant roll-off, the rest hit deep pretty fine, so if the 560s are in line with the 500 I should just stop worrying about it, right :P 

 

Get a DA8 or Audio-gd DAC if you want more punch :D

post #192 of 17297
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Originally Posted by Nimzerz View Post

I believe bass plays a huge role in the overall sound of the headphone just like any other freq. Caring about bass doesn't make you a bass head at all as it still shapes the sound significantly.

Aight then :beerchug:

post #193 of 17297
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Originally Posted by Clemmaster View Post
 

 

Get a DA8 or Audio-gd DAC if you want more punch :D

Naaah... Give my wallet a break :mad: Can't you see it is already leaking left and right? I am happy with the new Mstage's DAC :D It has them punch, I'd rather know about the headphone :D  

post #194 of 17297
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post
 

Man first thing first, HE560 sounds a lot less efficient than HE500 (possibly both due to the drivers, as well as to the much thicker earpads placing my ears farther from the drivers). It's much quieter (both running out of EF6's two outputs).

 

Edit: nvm I switched the cables around and HE560 sounds louder now, I think the EF6 outputs louder through the XLR out than the stereo out.

It's balanced out of the XLR, I suppose? So that'd mean twice the voltage, I suppose?

post #195 of 17297
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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post
 

It's balanced out of the XLR, I suppose? So that'd mean twice the voltage, I suppose?

I'm 100% sure the XLR out on EF6 is imbalanced, but it's probably outputting with more voltage, which would explain why it's louder.

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