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post #151 of 8206
LOL Jerg, did they still add the holes under the pad too? I think it's time we give you...time for the sound though.
post #152 of 8206
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Man first thing first, HE560 sounds a lot less efficient than HE500 (possibly both due to the drivers, as well as to the much thicker earpads placing my ears farther from the drivers). It's much quieter (both running out of EF6's two outputs).

 

Edit: nvm I switched the cables around and HE560 sounds louder now, I think the EF6 outputs louder through the XLR out than the stereo out.


Edited by jerg - 3/27/14 at 1:07pm
post #153 of 8206
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Man first thing first, HE560 sounds a lot less efficient than HE500. It's much quieter (both running out of EF6's two outputs).

And here I thought it'd be the other way around :/ The question is if these are prototypes [which tend to be less efficient] or retail version headphones? Anyone knows this?

post #154 of 8206
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LOL Jerg, did they still add the holes under the pad too? I think it's time we give you...time for the sound though.

They did better actually; they used a permeable mesh fabric under the pads (instead of the vinyl/rubber-ish material with past pads).

post #155 of 8206
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Quick MSPaint doodle of what the FR sounds like (importantly note the bass region, the low treble region, the treble extension, and the lack of ups and downs in the mids region) subjectively. (Sorry Berkeley U for ripping off your frequency range template off google image!)

 

Wow.  That's just about Alpha Dog flat, with even smoother treble response.  My wallet is about to take another hit!

post #156 of 8206
Man Jerg, with everything you are saying my wallet gets sadder and sadder. If this is truly an amalgam of 500 and 6 as it's name and initial impressions suggest, I'll have no choice but to buy it.

Edit: I'm actually fine with less efficiency here, I wasn't planning on running it with out an amp which is par for the course for a flagship level phone, the 400i should be the one where efficiency matters.
Edited by Ultramus - 3/27/14 at 1:08pm
post #157 of 8206
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And here I thought it'd be the other way around :/ The question is if these are prototypes [which tend to be less efficient] or retail version headphones? Anyone knows this?

I think it might be the EF6 not outputting the same volume through the two outputs lol, switched the cables around and HE560 is now louder.

post #158 of 8206

Jerg,

 

What do you think about the pads?  Are they jergpad-esque in sound?  Looks like they can fit on the HE400/500.

post #159 of 8206
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I think it might be the EF6 not outputting the same volume through the two outputs lol, switched the cables around and HE560 is now louder.

Good lol. You got me worried there!

Though I remember reading something about the EF6's outputs having different impedance/output so I didn't completely freak out :P

 

Thanks for clarifying though, you're handling this thread awesomely so far :D

post #160 of 8206
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Another thing that's becoming apparent is that my modded HE500 and the HE560 are different-sounding in nature...the HE500 is a heck of a lot richer-sounding, vocals sound lush and inviting. HE560s right now sound a lot more neutral, vocals sound less romantic and I want to say a bit more realistic.

post #161 of 8206
Lol just give him timeeee. Chill. But, when you have time after this stuff try the pads on the he500.
post #162 of 8206
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EF6 doesn't run balanced :p

 

I am starting to swap between HE500 and HE560 now, both connected to the EF6. Will post some unorganized thoughts.

Now you're talk'in :popcorn:

post #163 of 8206
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Yeah, seems like he560 is a no go for me. Unfortunate cause I love the build of it. I can't have trebly headphones if I want to also have enjoyment haha.

It's not treble-heavy at all. The balance is really nice between treble/mids/bass just from some initial vocal music. But yeah I will say HE500 is darker / more laid-back (even when modded).

 

Sounds to me like it takes after the single sided magnet little brother the HE-4....I was hoping it would be that way, rather than the darker, more laid back HE-500!

 

More air and soundstage?

post #164 of 8206
Yeah it seems like he-4 and he-5le.
post #165 of 8206
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Jerg,

 

What do you think about the pads?  Are they jergpad-esque in sound?  Looks like they can fit on the HE400/500.

They are pretty amazing TBH, the foam is really soft (much softer than pleather / velour foam), decently thick too but I don't think it's too thick. The two main features that draw parallels to my earpad mod are 1. velour tops, and 2. internal damping (they used a permeable meshy fabric, instead of what I did which is lots of holes cut up on the impermeable material of the old pads).

 

There is also a slight ~10 degree angling to the pads, which is much-needed I think. Funnily enough I also created some angling on my Modulor Jergpads, but I never documented it past a post and a photo.


Edited by jerg - 3/27/14 at 1:17pm
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