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post #1396 of 5781
Seems like the oppo has the pit falls of improperly tuned planars, or so it seems to me. I hear one of the big challenges is to push out some air and treble, though I'd like a proper source on it.
post #1397 of 5781
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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post

Seems like the oppo has the pit falls of improperly tuned planars, or so it seems to me. I hear one of the big challenges is to push out some air and treble, though I'd like a proper source on it.

Either way, they seem certainly too warm for my taste... And by the looks of it, they change a lot with source/amp, unlike Hifiman headphones which don't change that much IMO.
post #1398 of 5781
Guys I am wearing the pm-1 outside on the go for third day straight.

Sound is absolute clarity from my humble Galaxy Note3.

Volume can go higher than I can handle at max.
I have 3 notches down or about 70% loudness and it is the best sound I have herd "on the go".
Very organic so the sound is a different story for portable devices.
post #1399 of 5781
Yes we know the Oppo sounds good even off portable sources wink.gif
Seems like it'd make a nice complementary headphone though I'd probably be scared to use such expensive cans on the go... wink.gif
post #1400 of 5781
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Depends on where you live I guess. And how macho / intimidating you look on the street.

post #1401 of 5781
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Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post
 

cant say I agree. These have been in hands long enough now to get a good idea of what to expect so I am sorry but I disagree. Sure that would apply to certain things like balance/bass extension but other aspects are pretty much determined at this point. I pretty much know what to expect after Jerg's impressions and headphoneaddict. Again somethings will be different but the overall sound is very close otherwise Hifiman wouldnt have released them to reviewers.

 

The same company that released headphones to the public that didn't work, then issued Rev 2 versions? It's not out of the realm of possibility :rolleyes:

post #1402 of 5781
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The same company that released headphones to the public that didn't work, then issued Rev 2 versions? It's not out of the realm of possibility :rolleyes:

I think the whole point of Hifiman doing this unorthodox "test group" thing is to mitigate that fiasco from happening again.

 

Edit: I do wonder though, if it could have been better for them to conduct this earlier. Less immediate to the intended release dates.


Edited by jerg - 4/19/14 at 3:32pm
post #1403 of 5781

Are there any testers capable of creating response graphs on their HE560? I gotta say that I'm surprised Oppo went to the dark side... although the portability noted above (as in being used by a Samsung Note) is very intriguing.


Edited by Soundsgoodtome - 4/19/14 at 3:33pm
post #1404 of 5781
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post
 

I think the whole point of Hifiman doing this unorthodox "test group" thing is to mitigate that fiasco from happening again.

 

Edit: I do wonder though, if it could have been better for them to conduct this earlier. Less immediate to the intended release dates.

 

Yes indeed.

 

Design and refine....then announce...then release.

 

Not the opposite.

post #1405 of 5781
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Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
 

 

The same company that released headphones to the public that didn't work, then issued Rev 2 versions? It's not out of the realm of possibility :rolleyes:

all the revisions didnt make them sound like a whole different model, They fixed annoyances and I am sure they wont mind doing it again but I guarantee that even you yourself used them to develop an idea of what the 560 will sound like. When after or desiring certain aspect like soundstage width then you can pretty much be smart enough to determine that the he560 is not going to sound as closed as an lcd2 or he500 even and thats valuable. Again, ballpark impressions are still valuable. Especially if you are going to preorder. 

post #1406 of 5781
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Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post
 

all the revisions didnt make them sound like a whole different model, They fixed annoyances and I am sure they wont mind doing it again but I guarantee that even you yourself used them to develop an idea of what the 560 will sound like. When after or desiring certain aspect like soundstage width then you can pretty much be smart enough to determine that the he560 is not going to sound as closed as an lcd2 or he500 even and thats valuable. Again, ballpark impressions are still valuable. Especially if you are going to preorder.

 

I'm giving a big thumbs up to HiFiman for what looks like a big refinement in the construction of their headphones. The new frames and bails look awesome. I just wish that everything was in place and all the bugs worked out prior to the announcement of a new model.

post #1407 of 5781
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Originally Posted by Beagle View Post

 

I'm giving a big thumbs up to HiFiman for what looks like a big refinement in the construction of their headphones. The new frames and bails look awesome. I just wish that everything was in place and all the bugs worked out prior to the announcement of a new model.

 

It's fun following this back and forth.  Even if I could afford to buy them now, I'd wait until more reviews pour in.  I've done my share of early adopting (Buffalo Tech Link Theater anyone? ;)), but experience has made me patient.  But I can't see myself not owning the HE-560s eventually.

 

As for HFM's approach to releasing new cans, imagine if they were Sennheiser or AKG.  Suddenly, new cans!  But HFM is not a big company like that.  I reckon that's a luxury...? of being a big company.  Taking that into account, I can appreciate HFM's or OPPO's approach to releasing niche market cans.  Find nichers you think (or know) you can trust, and get the cans to them.  Have an NDA, or just tell the reviewers to post what they want (yay, jerg! :-)  Create a little buzz.  Will people bitch and moan?  Duuuuuuhhhh, cuz people always bitch and moan.  That's human nature.  What. Ever.  It's not like HFM or OPPO hacked something up in the lab and released it into the wild.  When the review versions went out, they were pretty solid... but subject to change.  Fair enough.  But ya gotta accept that.  Why do ya gotta?  Cuz it ain't your company ;)

 

Could HFM or OPPO have taken the Big Company approach and just released what they felt was the completed design?  Of course they could have.  But this is a niche market, and niche marketing tactics apply.

 

Well, just one man's opinion.  YMMV.

post #1408 of 5781

Fair enough....good points.

post #1409 of 5781

I want my cans now...

Should have been in the beta test, I have golden ears (Philips says it, not me)!

 

:ph34r:

post #1410 of 5781
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Originally Posted by Maxx134 View Post

Guys I am wearing the pm-1 outside on the go for third day straight.

Sound is absolute clarity from my humble Galaxy Note3.

Volume can go higher than I can handle at max.
I have 3 notches down or about 70% loudness and it is the best sound I have herd "on the go".
Very organic so the sound is a different story for portable devices.

 

Absolute clarity with GN3? What about transparency?

 

Is the GN3 worth anything by DAP standards?

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