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post #1201 of 7742

c'mon guys. in germay we are usually paying the same price in € you pay in $. if i got the maths right it would be 1250$ for you in the us. give hfm credit for their philosophy keeping a goog price performance ratio and making big improvements at least in terms of comfort. i mean look at audeze *rolleyes*

post #1202 of 7742
Can't help but support companies that brings great value in a world of bloated prices known as headphones.
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post
 

It's more of a theoretical conjecture that single-ended design won't have the uniform and simultaneous push/pull motion for the diaphragm as dual-ended designs, instead the diaphragm is only being pushed or pulled at any given moment. And that in theory means less control for the diaphragm and thus more distortion etc. 

 

The only single-ended orthos available to the public currently are Hifiman's HE4, and JPS's Abyss. Both show some THD disturbances but that cannot be correlated to their single-ended design since their magnet structures as well as tracing layouts are distinctive relative to dual-ended planars available.

Thats what I thought.  I have not heard a lot about the he4 or abyss having "distortion".  

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Purrin measured the HE-4 and it had a measurable spike at 6khz if I remember.  He also didn't like it too much for that reason, and an overall lack of meatiness.

 

Nothing's black and white universal though.  For instance the HE-400 has a whole lot of distortion through its lower midrange, but at the same time that could be a result of the magnets not covering the entire diaphragm or the electric tracings being coarse. 

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Originally Posted by Keithpgdrb View Post
 

Thats what I thought.  I have not heard a lot about the he4 or abyss having "distortion".  

The single-ended Abyss and HE4 tend to have higher measured midrange and treble distortion than the dual ended LCD2 and HE6 (as examples).  

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/JPSLabsAbyssAB1266.pdf

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AudezeLCD2Rev2.pdf

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/HiFiMANHE6.pdf

 

Obviously other things enter into the design than this one feature, though.   

 

EDIT:  Scratch that -- HE400 is a dual-sided design which is what I linked.  I think the single- vs dual-sided magnet design is a secondary issue. 

 

EDIT #2:  The HE4 is the single-sided design.  So, I've removed my link to the HE400 frequency response to avoid confusion. 


Edited by jazzman7 - 4/16/14 at 10:37am
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I am sure the Stax mafia will sure find some reason to mutter over the treble tongue.gif
Anyway, how's the realizer's headphone out?
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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post

I am sure the Stax mafia will sure find some reason to mutter over the treble tongue.gif
Anyway, how's the realizer's headphone out?

I'm 80% sure that HeadphoneAddict is a mafia guy (look at all his 'stats in his profile page), it was him who first made the comment that these have stats-like treble.

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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post

I am sure the Stax mafia will sure find some reason to mutter over the treble tongue.gif
Anyway, how's the realizer's headphone out?

 

By no means bad, but I was able to further improve imaging (especially depth) and transparency with the not so costly Meier Audio Corda Jazz. I hope its powerful enough to properly drive the he560 and/or he400i. Someday I have to test what a separate dac can add to the experience. But first things first. Better phones on the way :D

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Originally Posted by DaemonSire View Post

I know they will be discontinuing the HE400 and HE500, has there been any mention of discontinuing the HE4 as well?


Pretty sure the HE-4 was discontinued a while back, but some stocks remained.
post #1210 of 7742
Razordogaudio has a preorder up: http://www.razordogaudio.com/collections/frontpage/products/hifiman-he-560-full-size-planar-drive-headphones-new
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So can you apply to coupon code on the site to this purchase?

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So can you apply to coupon code on the site to this purchase?

Don't think so. Haven't found a place for that.

Looks like it's "Every Day low price" deal, which might disable any coupon.

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So can you apply to coupon code on the site to this purchase?


Those coupons are not good for certain brands, Hifiman being one of them.

post #1214 of 7742

That might have changed recently then.

I bought my HE-500 using a $150 off coupon at the time.

post #1215 of 7742

^^ So what was your final price on the he500 with coupon?

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