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Originally Posted by reddog View Post


If you need a portable amp, then you should look at the Fiio E12. I used my E 12 to drive the he-400i demo set and was impressed with the sound. However I do plan to order a Asgard 2 soon, so I can have a headphone rig, in my back porch.

The Asgard 2 can help keep you warm on chilly evenings.

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Originally Posted by Bill-P View Post

Well, you'd give up quite a bit of sound quality... unless you are willing to spend quite a bit more than $200.

It's not that the HE-560 needs a really powerful amp. I think you'd ideally want to get for it an amp that's "clean", and in general provides "clean" power. Some portable and transportable amps have to shave down the power supply section in order to fit into smaller chassis, and so... most of them have issues driving something like the HE-560 due to that. Those that can do so are just... big, bulky, and chunky.

On the other hand, though, I can totally understand the need to have an amp that has a smaller footprint so that you can move it around without much effort. That's why I made my own DIY amp... simply because I didn't want to have to deal with the footprint of the Asgard, or some other amp that's in the same league as far as power output goes.

Even so, I have found that nothing quite beats an efficient dynamic headphone and a decent portable amp for when you need to listen at a different location. I tried to carry my HE-560 setup around a few times, and... that's just not reasonable, even if I only have to do that about once every 2 weeks.
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Because I want to listen to music in different locations?

I totally get this...the whole appeal (or at least a major one) is the ability to listen wherever I want to...I have a high end rig in the living room (Thiel 3.6, Krell KSA-150, Linn turntable, Oppo as transpoet, PeachTree GrandPre preamp/da converter, Mojo tubed DA and assorted stuff), have very little free time, for quite a while it got very little use. Not that I didn't love it-I just didn't have time to sit in the "sweet spot" and close my eyes and enjoy, at least not as often as I'd like. Since getting into the headphone life, I have my Ray Samuels at the bedside, listen before bed or if I have time to lay down, can be moved anywhere in house. Use my DAP a ton previously DX90, supplanted by Pono), have ALO National and Cayin C5, for dog walking and mowing/leaf blowing, other mobile chores that can be done listening to music, and I love it!! Get to listen to lots of music in fine sound (maybe not the ultimate, but, in terms of enjoying the music, works for me), much more than if I were tied to the computer or living room. So, I can definitely appreciate the drive/quest for the perfect sound (not in existence, of course), but, at least in my life, the drive to enjoy more music more of the time (in as good sound as possible) trumps.
YMMV, of course...
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Originally Posted by reddog View Post


If you need a portable amp, then you should look at the Fiio E12. I used my E 12 to drive the he-400i demo set and was impressed with the sound. However I do plan to order a Asgard 2 soon, so I can have a headphone rig, in my back porch.

I honestly found the Cayin C5 much more impressive. So impressive that I sold the E12 immediately :D 

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I honestly found the Cayin C5 much more impressive. So impressive that I sold the E12 immediately biggrin.gif  
Cool, I really need to get the Cayin C5 or audition one.
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Cool, I really need to get the Cayin C5 or audition one.

They do sound very different though. the E12 is warm, but the C5 is neutral.

I found the E12 too warm to my liking, unlike the C5.

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Originally Posted by OnlyBadMusic View Post

Okay okay i'll trust you guys that the Asgard is worth it over the Magni. It's a little sad because the Asgard looks a little difficult to transport (in a bag, not "portable"), but you guys are making it sound worth it. Thanks!


You really should take a look at the Garage 1217 Polaris.  It is priced  close to the Asgard and is much more tweakable.

It does a very nice job driving the 560. There is a thread here where several 560 owners have commented positively on the pairing.

Not to confuse the issue. Schiit is well thought of around here, but I have three of the project amps and I like them all very much.

Jeremy t garage1217 is absolutely great to work with. It is worth checking out if you can.

 

As to the power question, shopping based only on power specs is not wise. As several people have said, that is only one aspect of amplifier specifications and often one of the least important.

If you can listen at levels that you want to and not actually hear problems, that is all you need. Doubling or tripling the rated power will likely not buy you much if anything.

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