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post #16 of 28

Most orthos sound better than most dynamics.

Some dynamics sound better than some orthos.

post #17 of 28

It might be somewhat genre-dependent:

 

For classical, I strongly prefer dynamic models. I have yet to hear a planar that impressed me in any classical subgenre except vocals. (We'll see about PM-1.) Dynamics present the sound as if it's coming at you, which is more like a concert.

 

Planars sound more artificial to me--though sometimes in a good way. Specifically, vocals seem to emanate beautifully from many of them.

 

Overall, I find the solidness of planars more relaxing, which is one reason why I use a T50RP as my all rounder. It's also much lighter on the head than the others.

post #18 of 28
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Originally Posted by Claritas View Post
 

It might be somewhat genre-dependent:

 

For classical, I strongly prefer dynamic models. I have yet to hear a planar that impressed me in any classical subgenre except vocals. (We'll see about PM-1.) Dynamics present the sound as if it's coming at you, which is more like a concert.

 

 

 

 

That's an interesting observation. I've owned 2 HE-500s and sold both in favour of a Beyer DT880 Pro, and been happy ever since. I conducted extensive auditioning and still found the Beyer sounded more like an orchestra. The HE-500 may wipe the floor with the DT880 in some genres, but definitely not orchestral/classical.

post #19 of 28
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More slam from planar magnetic drivers is a myth.  I do tend to agree that they have the potential to provide effortless extension and textural layering of the bass though.

And the Shure SE846 broke the myth that BA drivers have poor bass. :)

post #20 of 28
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Originally Posted by Aizura View Post
 

Most orthos sound better than most dynamics.

Some dynamics sound better than some orthos.

 

No, no...it's the other way around....

post #21 of 28
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No, no...it's the other way around....
I wish I had cash for a planar to compare...
post #22 of 28

I only had exposure to LCD-2.2 and 3 generations of Mad Dogs. To my taste dynamics are better, there was always something off with these planars, shallow soundstage, lack of air, and they sounded sort of glossy, almost like compressed, lacking dynamics of conventional dynamic drivers phones.

Weight and awful ergonomic esp. with Audeze is another issue.

post #23 of 28
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Originally Posted by Aizura View Post
 

Most orthos sound better than most dynamics.

Some dynamics sound better than some orthos.

 

Actually, I agree with the other poster.

 

Most dynamics sound better than orthos. Even where vocals are concerned. I have yet to hear any ortho beat any Audio Technica headphone at vocals. Even top-end electrostats like the SR-009 have a hard time beating the vocals of dynamics headphones.

 

Where faster response is required, such as with rock and metal, orthos may be a good solution, but some dynamics can be tuned to be good with rock and metal.

 

Then there's the matter of soundstaging and instrument separation. It's not a coincidence that the top headphones when it comes to soundstaging are mostly dynamics. To name a few: HD800, DT880, DT990, Fostex TH900, Denon D2K/D5K/D7K.

 

Quick test: count orthos that have good soundstaging that can match dynamics? I'm sure you'll find that the list is surprisingly short.

post #24 of 28

With "orthos" bear in mind there are 40+ years of production encompassing 80+ various models, all of which sound slightly different and all can be tuned to preference more or less. It's easy to fall into gross generalization


Edited by nick n - 4/6/14 at 1:50pm
post #25 of 28
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With "orthos" bear in mind there are 40+ years of production encompassing 80+ various models, all of which sound slightly different and all can be tuned to preference more or less. It's easy to fall into gross generalization

Of course. Though I took it for granted that OP meant the in production models by Audeze, Fostex, Hifiman, and Oppo; and even those have only broad similarities.
post #26 of 28
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Originally Posted by Bill-P View Post
 

 

Actually, I agree with the other poster.

 

Most dynamics sound better than orthos. Even where vocals are concerned. I have yet to hear any ortho beat any Audio Technica headphone at vocals. Even top-end electrostats like the SR-009 have a hard time beating the vocals of dynamics headphones.

 

Where faster response is required, such as with rock and metal, orthos may be a good solution, but some dynamics can be tuned to be good with rock and metal.

 

Then there's the matter of soundstaging and instrument separation. It's not a coincidence that the top headphones when it comes to soundstaging are mostly dynamics. To name a few: HD800, DT880, DT990, Fostex TH900, Denon D2K/D5K/D7K.

 

Quick test: count orthos that have good soundstaging that can match dynamics? I'm sure you'll find that the list is surprisingly short.

 

I've always liked dynamic headphones too. I bought the HiFiMAN 400 (twice because I'm stupid) , and it was one of the most disappointing purchases for me. I just didn't like it, and didn't like the bass it produced. They also seem to be heavier, at least for me, the HE-400 was not at all comfortable with all that weight.

 

Did I mention, it's pretty ugly and MASSIVE on the head?

post #27 of 28

I prefer dynamics for the most part, mainly because they do bass for edm more to my liking as well as more expansive sound staging/imaging. I'll admit I enjoyed the Alpha Dog for soundtrack and classical listening, but then again I have yet to hear the HD800 or T1. The LCD2 sounded very very good for rock and jazz but I found it too uncomfortable, ditto for the HE500. I'll be looking at getting one of the Oppo or HE560 in the near future, TH500RP in consideration as well.

post #28 of 28
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I've always liked dynamic headphones too. I bought the HiFiMAN 400 (twice because I'm stupid) , and it was one of the most disappointing purchases for me. I just didn't like it, and didn't like the bass it produced. They also seem to be heavier, at least for me, the HE-400 was not at all comfortable with all that weight.

 

Did I mention, it's pretty ugly and MASSIVE on the head?

 

You seem to be describing my experience with the HE-500. I bought this twice (not because I'm stupid but because I can't resist a bargain--see 'Best Deals ever' thread) and just didn't care for it, the sound or the feel of an unsteady brick on my head. I'm so glad I was able to find a headphone that not only sounds great at a reasonable price but is massively comfortable (DT880 Pro).

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