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post #16 of 123
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Nice review Twister6!!! awesome pictures too, great contribution!

I hope to read a HM700-RE600 review of yours at some point, no pressure  :tongue:

post #17 of 123
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Nice review Twister6!!! awesome pictures too, great contribution!

I hope to read a HM700-RE600 review of yours at some point, no pressure  :tongue:

 

I assume RE-600 is balanced single driver as well?  If it has more bass quantity in comparison to RE-400, I might just consider to crazy glue it to HM-700 and use it permanently in a bundle :D 

 

Btw, didn't get around to figure it out yet, but there is a Playlists directory with My Audio selections/Image Selections/Video Selections sub-directories.  What is that about?  Can you create a playlist?  And, can you view images and videos?  I thought it uses a generic audio decoder with analog driver section, wasn't aware it displays images or plays video beside audio file embedded artwork preview.  Would have been great to have playlists.

post #18 of 123
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Yes, single dynamic driver. 

Been doing direct comparison between the two on a song with lots of bass moving up and down as well as many intriguing sounds, frequencies and effects. Darn! RE400 sound really good with electronic! I can't say RE600 has more bass than RE400 in terms of quantity but they feel like they extend a tad lower. At times, it sounds bolder overall but I think this is due to the bass liquidity and slightly different mediums/highs tuning. 

Btw, I just realized my Bass EQ was at +1 (not sure if you've tried it but if you wish for a little more bass quantity, it helps)

 

The more I listen to the two and the more I can tell RE400 have the music slightly in front of listener while with RE600, the music starts from each side of the head and extend a little deeper in front. It feels a little more involving and holographic... It's subtile but there. 

The RE600's liquidity also adds to this sense of depth, almost like a very light reverb effect. 

 

As far as video and playlist, I noticed that too but I really don't know. I think it is possible to create playlists but I haven't tried (I usually create compilations on my computer instead). Yes, playlist would be nice. I don't really care about videos : )

post #19 of 123
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Btw, I just realized my Bass EQ was at +1 (not sure if you've tried it but if you wish for a little more bass quantity, it helps)

 

 

Bass EQ in a custom EQ preset or that Bass preset?  Let me know where you changed it.  I'm not a basshead, but rather EDM-head :D  I was using Electronica preset for awhile, but switched back to Normal since it sounds more balanced and natural.  Also, thanks for comparison of RE-400 and RE-600.  Kind of surprised since I would have expected more considering $300 price premium.

post #20 of 123
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Song > Setup Sound > Custom EQ  gives you Normal tuning with 5 bands adjustments, I just clicked up on first band (50 Hz)

 

You're welcome. I agree about the $300 premium when buying iems only but with HM700, the premium become $250 : )

And it still questionable for music genres where electronic prevails. But for Jazz, World, Classical, Opera... and music requiring that extra touch of naturalness so important to acoustic instruments and voices, the difference becomes more apparent and the premium starts making sense to me. The RE600 are just more musical and versatile overall.

post #21 of 123
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I just finished my review and published it on-line: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2707613



Very nice, but no storage expansion. Too bad
post #22 of 123
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Very nice smily_headphones1.gif but no storage expansion. Too bad....
post #23 of 123
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Very nice smily_headphones1.gif but no storage expansion. Too bad....

 

If you think about it, this is really a bundle of $150 balanced output portable DAP with $99 set of balanced IEMs.  Considering what you get for $150 which includes 32GB of internal storage and a really cool design, great battery life, simple robust firmware, not to mention a ton of accessories, its actually a pretty good value even without storage expansion.  I just accepted it as a scaled down version of HiFiMAN bigger HM brothers :)

post #24 of 123
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Originally Posted by Tympan View Post
 

Song > Setup Sound > Custom EQ  gives you Normal tuning with 5 bands adjustments, I just clicked up on first band (50 Hz)

 

You're welcome. I agree about the $300 premium when buying iems only but with HM700, the premium become $250 : )

And it still questionable for music genres where electronic prevails. But for Jazz, World, Classical, Opera... and music requiring that extra touch of naturalness so important to acoustic instruments and voices, the difference becomes more apparent and the premium starts making sense to me. The RE600 are just more musical and versatile overall.

 

Two notches up at 50Hz really added a nice sub-bass texture!  I'm still amazed how you can get around navigating all these menus and sub-menus with only 4 directional buttons ;)

post #25 of 123
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Two notches up at 50Hz really added a nice sub-bass texture!  I'm still amazed how you can get around navigating all these menus and sub-menus with only 4 directional buttons ;)

Yes, it does the trick quite nicely. 

 

I did edit my impressions after running into a "burn in surprise" 


Edited by Tympan - 4/16/14 at 6:21pm
post #26 of 123

Thank you for this additional analysis.  I'm pretty sure I'm sticking with RE400.  I do like the extra bass in general, and though RE400 can't offer the same quantity I get from W40 and IM03, there is something about it's neutral sound that totally captivates me.  Plus, HiFiMAN was able to achieve this amazing balance of making them bright without ear fatigue.  I listen to a lot of EDM, and bright sound signature becomes too ear piercing with synthesized electronic sounds.  With HM700/RE400B combo I can listen for extended period of time and enjoy it 100%.

post #27 of 123
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Indeed! a special little combo with a special tuning... at quite a reasonable price!!!

So if you listen to a lot of EDM, you are probably already aware of how good Neelix sound on the HM700 (?) Great stuff ; )

post #28 of 123
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1. The peak with voices/sax is pretty much gone now. (no more occasional "unpleasant" smearing in the voices or honk in trumpets/sax)

2. Also the resonance/sustain have increased resulting in acoustic instruments sounding more natural now!

Cymbals do ring longer, drums and wind instruments also sound noticeably better.

Jazz now sounds as good as any other styles.  Voices, classical, and Opera have also benefited from this tiny "change"... which I'll dare to attribute to the burn in effect (those who don't believe in burn in can blame it on me, no problem)...

Regardless, this is great new: RE400 are in fact as versatile with music styles as RE600

 

 

Wow! I hope this will happen to my pair too) Right now my pair probably has got something like 20-25 hours of work, peaks are still there

post #29 of 123
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20-25 hrs is definitely not enough. I usually give my earphones/headphones/speakers a good 150 hrs of burn in to settle.

 

When I bought my balanced amplifier module for the HM801, I remember writing Fang from Hifiman about a potential problem with it because it still sounded off after 150 hrs of burn in. He responded that balanced modules require a lot more time to burn in! Not sure if it was that specific module or if it is balanced equipment in general... but I'd say it took easily 300 hrs to settle nicely.

 

You may also want to make sure you are using lossless .Flac or .wav files (as opposed to .mp3s). The original owner on my MH700 had it loaded with only .mp3s (!) and until I loaded my own files, the sound quality was pretty disappointing. This along with not being burned in enough, I can see why he sold it...

post #30 of 123

hello, Im about to buy one, but im not sure, wich one you guy will recomend for me? Im between the HM-700, The FIIO x5 or the DX50.

 

I have this headphones, they are not the best, but i want to get the best of them... I use them with my galaxy note 2 =(

 

SHURE 535 monitors

DENON  AHD600

Bower Wilkins p5

 

Please help!

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