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post #406 of 874
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Originally Posted by jk47 View Post

see the audio review of the htc one m8, link above to anandtech.
however, i don't see how anyone can plan on using a phone as an audio source except on a very casual, and limited-use basis.  if you use it for music for extended stretches of time, you're going to kill the battery.
you do realize that phones have music playing times of 40+ hours? Oh, and the HTC one mini 2 came out and it has a 0.88 volts. Plus, there's a version of the M8 coming out that has all the same specs but it has a 13Mp camera and a polycarbonate body instead of metal and dual 4mp cameras. http://www.phonearena.com/phones/HTC-One-E8_id8689 its basically a cheaper m8... Plus, I can't wait to see what Samsung owners say about that. On phonearena, all the Samsung fanboys say metal is a terrible phone material and that polycarbonate is the way to go... Now we will see what they say now.
Edited by DisCHORDDubstep - 6/3/14 at 9:48am
post #407 of 874
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Originally Posted by DisCHORDDubstep View Post


you do realize that phones have music playing times of 40+ hours? Oh, and the HTC one mini 2 came out and it has a 0.88 volts. Plus, there's a version of the M8 coming out that has all the same specs but it has a 13Mp camera and a polycarbonate body instead of metal and dual 4mp cameras. http://www.phonearena.com/phones/HTC-One-E8_id8689 its basically a cheaper m8... Plus, I can't wait to see what Samsung owners say about that. On phonearena, all the Samsung fanboys say metal is a terrible phone material and that polycarbonate is the way to go... Now we will see what they say now.

 

i guess it's really screen time that does it.  i was using my phone to both listen to music and to do reading on a long plane flight and came close to a full drain- i'm on a moto razr hd maxx, with the big battery.  i'm planning on an upgrade when i'm due in the fall, and thinking about these issues. i decided to get an ibasso dx90 as a dedicated music source, so i'm less concerned about the audio quality on my next phone.  i was not aware, however, that music play time was as long as you said. that's pretty good. i wonder if it's true on the m8, which has only a 2600mah non-interchangeable battery.

post #408 of 874
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Originally Posted by DisCHORDDubstep View Post

Whoa, I thought a guy who mentioned an HTC W8 on this forum earlier was just joking around, but it turns out there is an HTC W8 coming out... Well, I would get the HTC W8, but HTC hasn't updated their windows phone software yet on their current models. They are not devoted to creating windows phones quite yet. Even Samsung updates more often than HTC! Kind of sad... I want the front facing stereo boom sound speakers they are putting on it... The thing is that they are putting the dual front facing cameras on it, which really makes no sense, because I would totally pick the 2X 4Mp camera with cheap Chinese made lenses over a 41mp camera with xenon flash, lossless zoom, and Carl Zeiss Lens Optics. Lol. Its almost just stupid that they would announce the dual cameras, when Nokia, the king of phone cameras has 20mp Carl Zeiss lensed cameras standard on high end models, and 8.7mp Carl Zeiss lensed cameras on middle-upper end models, and the best camera phone in history other than the Nokia pureview 808, the Nokia Lumia 1020 with a 41mp camera... I get advertising boomsound, but... Cameras? On a non-Nokia windows phone? Advertising?... Sorry for long ramble. I just wish HTC would put at least a tiny bit of effort into their windows phone line. Their androids are amazing, but wp8's lack... Pm me for a convo on it, and i hope HTC gets serious and brings over the same sound quality that's on the m8. Here's the link. http://m.wpcentral.com/htc-w8-rumored-boomsound-duo-cameras (and that's not the w8 in the picture there. That's the HTC 8X windows phone. Its their last released model. There hasn't been any pics of the w8 released, but i hope it looks like the m8)
Have the Android version, and it's updated twice since I've had it. The front facing camera on my phone is pretty good. The back camera isn't the best. It's Ultramegapixls. They are bigger. Next year model is supposed to be like 18 megapixel with optical zoom.
post #409 of 874
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Originally Posted by DisCHORDDubstep View Post

you do realize that phones have music playing times of 40+ hours? Oh, and the HTC one mini 2 came out and it has a 0.88 volts. Plus, there's a version of the M8 coming out that has all the same specs but it has a 13Mp camera and a polycarbonate body instead of metal and dual 4mp cameras. http://www.phonearena.com/phones/HTC-One-E8_id8689 its basically a cheaper m8... Plus, I can't wait to see what Samsung owners say about that. On phonearena, all the Samsung fanboys say metal is a terrible phone material and that polycarbonate is the way to go... Now we will see what they say now.
it's actually 1.5 volts. Can cause some cheap cans to distort without an external amp.
post #410 of 874
The HTC One mini 2 has 0.88 volts lol. The full size M8 puts out 1.35 volts, not 1.5.
post #411 of 874
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Originally Posted by jk47 View Post

i guess it's really screen time that does it.  i was using my phone to both listen to music and to do reading on a long plane flight and came close to a full drain- i'm on a moto razr hd maxx, with the big battery.  i'm planning on an upgrade when i'm due in the fall, and thinking about these issues. i decided to get an ibasso dx90 as a dedicated music source, so i'm less concerned about the audio quality on my next phone.  i was not aware, however, that music play time was as long as you said. that's pretty good. i wonder if it's true on the m8, which has only a 2600mah non-interchangeable battery.
think about it this way... The FiiO E11 puts out 5.3 volts (maybe it was 4.3 volts?) and has a 9-12 hour battery life and has an 800 Mah battery. Phones have 40-100 hours of music playing life, and the M8 puts out around 1.3 volts.
Edited by DisCHORDDubstep - 6/3/14 at 12:49pm
post #412 of 874
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Originally Posted by DisCHORDDubstep View Post


think about it this way... The FiiO E11 puts out 5.3 volts (maybe it was 4.3 volts?) and has a 9-12 hour battery life and has an 800 Mah battery. Phones have 40-100 hours of music playing life, and the M8 puts out around 1.3 volts.

 

makes sense. thanks. it puts out 1/4 of the voltage from a battery more than 3 times as large.  of course it's also powering the rest of the phone besides your audio playback, which is why it doesn't have 12x the battery life for audio.

 

something else, though- the amp is stronger and therefore should be able to run hp's with more control than other phones, but it's still using the qualcomm onboard dac.   so with phones that can be competently run by the m8 amp, that dac will be the limiting factor for s.q.


Edited by jk47 - 6/3/14 at 12:57pm
post #413 of 874
The Qualcomm's actually aren't that bad. Really, its 95% headphone that makes up the sound quality... Unless it needs the amplification from a high power source... But, other than that, the Qualcomm snapdragons don't sound as bad as most believe. I have a Qualcomm in my Nokia, and I can't detect any noise... My amp creates more noise than my phone lol.
Edited by DisCHORDDubstep - 6/3/14 at 1:53pm
post #414 of 874

The HTC M8 drops to extreme power saving mode when the battery gets low if you still to be on call and so on. I can listen to about 2 1/2 hours of music with a DAC connected to the USB and still have enough power to make some casual calls and browse the web casually in a 12 hour day. I haven't even dropped into extreme power saving mode yet. I sit around 30% at the end of the day with all of that. I would get a lot more time even if I didn't use the DAC. Without listening to any music and just browsing the web my HTC M8 is at about 70% at the end of the working day. 

post #415 of 874
Lol. I have a smaller battery than you, keep it on medium brightness, listen to music 5 1/2 hours a day, go on head-fi all day long, (and yes. It is a slower processor being a snapdragon s4 1.5 GHz dual core, but windows phone is much more fluid. The phone I have is faster than the original One and gs4... Android must really suck at power management lol. And those snapdragon 2.5 GHz quad cores must drain a crapload of power. Yes, my phone is slower than m8, but only a little slower than s5.) and still end up having 30% at the end of the day. I love it. biggrin.gif I wouldn't mind an M8 tho... It would be a nice phone. I'd be content with a Nokia or HTC. No Samsung or apple. They can die for all I care.
post #416 of 874
Since android 4.4, all compatible phones support audio tunnelling, so the cpu doesn't actually do any decoding. Also I get two days medium to heavy use on my m8 so music playback is no problem, batterylife is no issue, it's as good if not better than my friends's note ii.
post #417 of 874
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Originally Posted by ryanjsoo View Post

Since android 4.4, all compatible phones support audio tunnelling, so the cpu doesn't actually do any decoding. Also I get two days medium to heavy use on my m8 so music playback is no problem, batterylife is no issue, it's as good if not better than my friends's note ii.

 

Coming from a phone/android version that is incapable of this, I am very happy with the M8's efficiency for audio playback. I keep gestures enabled because this seems to further ensure the overall system stays in a lower-power mode (anecdotal, no proof).

 

I imagine other Snapdragon 800/kitkat phones are also the same way. Wish google had implemented this earlier and allowed this for more low-end devices.

post #418 of 874
...although for best sound, best to turn tunnelling off... damned if you do, damned if you don't...
post #419 of 874
How do you enable tunnelling just out of curiosity? I have my m8 rooted with elementalx kernel. Haven't seen any option for it. Using my HRT microstreamer I get acceptable battery life but if I were out longer than 10 hours or so I'd want to bring a portable charger with me in my bag.
post #420 of 874

Hi,

 

I´m pretty confused about the mixed audio reviews of some of the current top devices. WhatHifi states, that the Z2 is superior, GSM Arena is all for the M8 (Supercurio once said that their measurement is not correct).

Which site is the most reliable when it comes to measuring audio quality? And has anyone hopes for the G3?

 

Cheers!

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