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Let's Revisit Modded T50RP's: MD Pros v. Paradox Slant v. ZMF V2

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I know this topic has been mentioned a multitude of times before, but now we have a few new versions of these old favorites. I'm looking for everyone's personal opinion on why they prefer one over the other, or if they've heard any of them and what they thought. Personally, I'm interested because I'm looking for a very fun, closed, well isolated phone that has excellent (clean/textured) bass that can also compliment my HE-500. I'm very curious about the LFF Slant due to it being the most expensive, is it '$700 good' compared to the MD Pro @ $400?

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I've tried only the regular MD and ZMF. I heard the v1 a lot and the v2 briefly. The v2 is darker and in some ways simpler because the bass emphasis predominates over the ranges. One can hear the influence of HE500 in both cases, but ZMF gave it a distinctive sound. It works so well with strings, and vocals sound great too.

MD "Pro" should sound a lot like the regular one, which seemed to me more influenced by LCD2 but less successful at copying what it seemed to be getting from Audeze--but, yeah, you do get a dark, laid back sound with good bass. But not the overpowering sensation of an Audeze. I don't know why that would be; maybe the Fostex driver has less of an Audeze sound to begin with or maybe Audezes are simply hella better than Hifimans (except HE400).

As to LFF, I'd be kind of biased going in because nothing is $700 good, except maybe HD800 and Audeze, and they're not worth much more than that. So I really doubt a Fostex mod is worth than kind of money. That said, I don't know that I wouldn't want to promote it if it were.
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As to LFF, I'd be kind of biased going in because nothing is $700 good, except maybe HD800 and Audeze, and they're not worth much more than that. So I really doubt a Fostex mod is worth than kind of money. That said, I don't know that I wouldn't want to promote it if it were.

 

It's all relative. Having owned the TH900 and LCD3 (unsure if it was a "good" pair), I'd take my original Paradox over both of those cans and I like the slants better than the original Paradox (one of the reasons why I sold my pair). After auditioning the Enigmas briefly, they were pretty amazing I was willing to pay even more than $700 for them.

 

The slants are one heck of a headphone. Once I free up more funds I'll likely pick them up. 

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I know this topic has been mentioned a multitude of times before, but now we have a few new versions of these old favorites. I'm looking for everyone's personal opinion on why they prefer one over the other, or if they've heard any of them and what they thought. Personally, I'm interested because I'm looking for a very fun, closed, well isolated phone that has excellent (clean/textured) bass that can also compliment my HE-500. I'm very curious about the LFF Slant due to it being the most expensive, is it '$700 good' compared to the MD Pro @ $400?

 

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It's all relative. Having owned the TH900 and LCD3 (unsure if it was a "good" pair), I'd take my original Paradox over both of those cans and I like the slants better than the original Paradox (one of the reasons why I sold my pair). After auditioning the Enigmas briefly, they were pretty amazing I was willing to pay even more than $700 for them.

 

The slants are one heck of a headphone. Once I free up more funds I'll likely pick them up. 

 

 

Hoorah!!!!

 

The Slants are ridiculously good and as you improve your equipment or cables...$ 700 almost seems like a bargain for what they do.

 

They are transparent to a fault, dynamic, powerful, and extended.  Some might find the highs a touch rolled...I don't find them to anything but absolutely natural, as well as neutral, on the best recordings and actually can still be a hint bright but not annoyingly so on less well recorded music.

 

Don't let the concept of neutrality fool you here.   It simply means they have virtually no character of their own.  Not just tonally, but spatially, dynamically and harmonically.  PRAT is as good or better than anything I have heard.  I defy you to take them off your head if you put something on that you enjoy.  They are incredibly comfortable and its not hard to forget you are wearing headphones.

 

They hold their own with the best transducers I have owned or heard.  They give us some ultimate slam, sheer size, maximum dynamics and some of sheer concusive bass of the best full range loudspeakers.  But yes I compare them to loudspeakers because to me they merit the comparison.

 

 I am beyond happy, to the point where I will be keeping these.  No need to look elsewhere.  

 

In another year or so if I get my other audio projects finished.  I plan on selling them and getting Luis to build me a pair hardwired with Dave 's(Dave's Cable) D4 interconnect.  That will cost at least as much as the phones over again but will easily be worth it.  Figure that will be my $1500 dollar pair of headphones.  They are phenomenal run with Luis hardwired 8 strand occ rogue copper right now and I use a valabs 3.5mm plug, because it was the only copper/rhodium one I could find.

 Yes, soldering it on with Cardas Quad Eutectic, I heard a noticeable improvement immediately over the stock switchcraft.

 

I noticed I really didn't talk about soundstage and imaging here.  Intereting, point is that it is so good that i just accept it as correct and pay attention to the sheer joy of whatever performance I am listening too.

 

Happy Listening,

 

jgwtriode


Edited by jgwtriode - 6/2/14 at 3:12pm
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Hoorah!!!!

 

The Slants are ridiculously good and as you improve your equipment or cables...$ 700 almost seems like a bargain for what they do.

 

They are transparent to a fault, dynamic, powerful, and extended.  Some might find the highs a touch rolled...I don't find them to anything but absolutely natural, as well as neutral, on the best recordings and actually can still be a hint bright but not annoyingly so on less well recorded music.

 

Don't let the concept of neutrality fool you here.   It simply means they have virtually no character of their own.  Not just tonally, but spatially, dynamically and harmonically.  PRAT is as good or better than anything I have heard.  I defy you to take them off your head if you put something on that you enjoy.  They are incredibly comfortable and its not hard to forget you are wearing headphones.

 

They hold their own with the best transducers I have owned or heard.  They give us some ultimate slam, sheer size, maximum dynamics and some of sheer concusive bass of the best full range loudspeakers.  But yes I compare them to loudspeakers because to me they merit the comparison.

 

 I am beyond happy, to the point where I will be keeping these.  No need to look elsewhere.  

 

In another year or so if I get my other audio projects finished.  I plan on selling them and getting Luis to build me a pair hardwired with Dave 's(Dave's Cable) D4 interconnect.  That will cost at least as much as the phones over again but will easily be worth it.  Figure that will be my $1500 dollar pair of headphones.  They are phenomenal run with Luis hardwired 8 strand occ rogue copper right now and I use a valabs 3.5mm plug, because it was the only copper/rhodium one I could find.

 Yes, soldering it on with Cardas Quad Eutectic, I heard a noticeable improvement immediately over the stock switchcraft.

 

I noticed I really didn't talk about soundstage and imaging here.  Intereting, point is that it is so good that i just accept it as correct and pay attention to the sheer joy of whatever performance I am listening too.

 

Happy Listening,

 

jgwtriode


Holy balls. Quite the review!

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