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gyx11 compared B3, Tenore, and KC06.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/684159/chinese-asian-brand-info-thread-headphones-iems-amps-dacs/4005#post_10658030

post #767 of 4001
Thread Starter 

Thanks for mentioning. He left his Havi at home, couldn't a-b'ed, so whats the point ? Comparison from the memory.
post #768 of 4001
Yep. I've actually made a disclaimer that I did not have my B3 with me. there is no substitute for a direct A/B. impressions are only as good as memory, which can only be so good.

I now have them side by side, and i will post my brief direct a/b impressions in a while. please again note that I am hugely against people who take the reviews of others as the final word, my review included. like it or not, discerning audio is a purely subjective matter. always keep an open mind until you actually have it in your hands and on your ears.

sorry to angst, but I don't quite like having to read people telling me 'so Tenores beat the Havi B3?' because I've already stated my stance clearly in what I write and I've not said anything of that sort. read clearly instead of just trying to satiate your confirmation bias of ______ >>> _______.

Cheers everyone (:
Edited by gyx11 - 6/24/14 at 3:26pm
post #769 of 4001
Thread Starter 
I have no words for your review @gyx11 because you mentined that you dont have B3 in you ears atm. Thats understandable... audio memory is like chameleon. I just wanted to point out this. I agree everything you write on the above post. But if someone posts the same thing (sentence) on at least 3 other threads at the same time, that may catch my attention...
post #770 of 4001
Hi Baycode! To be frank, when I began writing, it was only meant to be solely about the Tenore alone. I guess subconsciously, I have been trying to pit the B3 against other IEMs which have been mentioned in the same breath. you might say that expectations coupled with a little excitement got the better of me. when you've got something great on your hands, you just want to push the boundaries, if you get what I mean. In hindsight though, I agree that I should have refrained from talking about comparisons until I had them on hand.
post #771 of 4001
Thread Starter 
Dear @gyx11 I am understanding and feeling the same way as you wink.gif my words wasn't for you. You're knowing what you're doing and from the first posts I have started meeting you I always like the way you're writing.

I wanted to point out grayson73's reaction. But that's fine...

I like to read your thoughts after comp. wink.gif
Edited by Baycode - 6/24/14 at 4:27pm
post #772 of 4001

VSD3S vs Havi B3Pro 1

Here’s my not so short take on these two fabulous budget IEM’s:

 

Introduction:

I won’t elaborate much on the built of these two since they’re pretty similar in style, fit and built quality. They both offers nice cables, solid plastic housings, great comfort and next to no microphonics due to over the ear styling. The big difference is of course the removable cable on the VSD3S which is a really nice feature and added value. 

 

They both offer at least average isolation (tip dependent).

 

Accessories are also pretty basic on both but it might be worth mentioning that it took much longer time for me to find the right tips for the B3’s than it did with the VSD3S. I’m using Philips Fidelio S2 tips on the B3’s and stock biflange tips on the Vsonics.

 

Another important thing is that the B3’s really needs an amp to show their true potential while the Vsonics are much easier to drive.

 

This comparison was made with a mix of FLAC ripped CD’s, high resolution FLAC and 320kbs MP3’s listening through the uDac2 which I find to work well with both IEM’s.

 

For those who care the VSD3S has about 30 hours on it while the B3’s got hundreds of hours of use.

 

Sound:

The Havi B3’s offers an exceptional soundstage in both width and depth and has very good instrument separation.  It’s actually stupidly good in these areas and though the VSD3S also offers very good soundstage depth and width it lags a bit behind in separation.  I think this it’s mainly due to the fact that they offer a much fuller sound with more mid bass than the B3’s. The voice reproduction on the B3’s is the most natural I’ve ever heard in any IEM and again while the Vsonics are very good they don’t quiet sound as natural as the B3’s. 

 

Listening to music like Beck, Peter Malick Group feat. Norah Jones, Cowboy Junkies , Ane Brun, Passengers etc. really brings out the best in the B3’s and I think they outperform the VSD3S here.  That does not mean that the Vsonics is not good in these areas, it’s just that the B3’s are even better.

 

(Fun Fact 1: Listening to Cowboy Junkies “Blacked Eyed Man) on the B3’s during this comparison I suddenly realized I’ve listened to several tracks for pure enjoyment and forgotten all about what I was doing. That kind of says it all about the Havi’s with this kind of music to me.)

 

My main (and possible only) grip with the B3’s is the lack of bass. The bass it does offer have great control and there’s zero bass bleed.  It does however offer decent sub bass but I would have preferred that they’d been able to go even deeper and had a bit more impact.   The VSD3S on the other hand gives me the impact that I miss with the B3’s. 

 

When listening to Robyn, Daft Punk, Infected Mushroom, Pharrell Williams and my beloved Depeche Mode the B3’s sounds too thin and the lack of bass impact is obvious. The Vsonics on the other hand make listening to this kind of music pure enjoyment.  It fuller sound really comes in handy and I’m not missing any bass at all (please note that I’m the kind of guy that find the Q701 to have a great bass in both quality and quantity). As a matter of fact on some tracks I find the bass to be on the verge of boomy and a tiny bit slow but in all I’d say that they offer pretty much the ideal bass quantity for my liking and also very good bass quality.

 

(Fun Fact 2: Listening to Depeche Mode “Construction Time Again” on the VSD3S during this comparison I suddenly realized I’ve listened to several tracks for pure enjoyment and forgotten all about what I was doing. That kind of says it all about the Vsonics with this kind of music to me.)

 

Listening to “classic rock” like Eagles, Doors, REM, Pink Floyd, Dire Straits etc. the natural voices,  excellent separation and huge soundstage of the B3’s excels again and the slight lack of bass impact are easily forgiven. Moving up to more heavy stuff like Metallica, Alice In Chains, Celldweller, Nirvana and even Foo Fighters the extra weight in the sound that the VSD3S offers comes in very handy and makes the difference from enjoying it with the B3’s to go head banging with the Vsonics.

 

Summing it all up:

The overall sound of the Havi B3Pro1 is organic and natural. They’re very well balanced and lack a bit of bass impact. Listening to music on them reminds me of listening to vinyl through a tube amp.

 

The Vsonic VSD3S is a full sounding IEM with great bass reproduction that still feels well balanced. Listening to them reminds me more of listening to a CD on a digital amplifier.

 

These are both great budget IEM’s  and while the VSD3S come across as the better all rounder I still feel  that the B3’s are the best with the “right” kind of music (just take a listen to Amber Rubart’s “Sessions from the 17’th Wards” binaural recording with them and you’ll see what I mean, epic). I do, however, think that the VSD3S will be preferred by most people due to their fuller sound and more instant wow factor. The fact that you don’t need an amp to enjoy them will also make them more appealing to most people.

 

Ever since I’ve got the Havi B3Pro 1 about half a year ago I’ve been looking for the perfect supplement to them for all kind of music played straight from my phone and tried out A LOT of different IEM’s without feeling that they’ve satisfied me but now I’ve finally found it.

 

Please take this for what is: one man’s opinion from one man’s perspective and preferences.


Edited by peter123 - 6/25/14 at 6:27am
post #773 of 4001
Dang it peter123, why do you have to take my money and give it to vsonic with a review like that!

Gna order my vsd3 soon.

PS- these better rival my GR07BE or I'm gna injure those knees again (jkjk)

Nice review, thanks for posting it.
post #774 of 4001
Thread Starter 
Well written @peter123
, I read it instantly and can understand what is VSD3S is about wink.gif   (I am sure because we knew each others likes and used at least 3 same brand/model iem's in the past). 

It seems like complimenting iem...

So I have to say I will pass VSD3S for this time. May be VSD5S can excel it. At that moment may be B6 appear on the shelves wink.gif

Thanks buddy!  beerchug.gif
Edited by Baycode - 6/25/14 at 10:53am
post #775 of 4001
No problem @Baycode. We both know you'll get them all eventually wink.gif
post #776 of 4001
Yes like I said i knew it. Thx for the first 30hr impressions(vsd3S) and lets see after a 100 hrs period.
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Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by peter123 View Post

No problem @Baycode. We both know you'll get them all eventually wink.gif

Distances do have no meaning, thanks to internet, you start to know me more than me,   LOL tongue.gif

Yes I will buy and sell them all, just keeping the Havi wink.gif   as I did before   redface.gif

Havi is PURE LOVE
Edited by Baycode - 6/25/14 at 10:59am
post #778 of 4001
I'm all for long distance relationshis, got a few already wink.gif

Love is in the air.......
post #779 of 4001
Quote:
Originally Posted by peter123 View Post
 

VSD3S vs Havi B3Pro 1

Here’s my not so short take on these two fabulous budget IEM’s:

 

Introduction:

I won’t elaborate much on the built of these two since they’re pretty similar in style, fit and built quality. They both offers nice cables, solid plastic housings, great comfort and next to no microphonics due to over the ear styling. The big difference is of course the removable cable on the VSD3S which is a really nice feature and added value. 

 

They both offer at least average isolation (tip dependent).

 

Accessories are also pretty basic on both but it might be worth mentioning that it took much longer time for me to find the right tips for the B3’s than it did with the VSD3S. I’m using Philips Fidelio S2 tips on the B3’s and stock biflange tips on the Vsonics.

 

Another important thing is that the B3’s really needs an amp to show their true potential while the Vsonics are much easier to drive.

 

This comparison was made with a mix of FLAC ripped CD’s, high resolution FLAC and 320kbs MP3’s listening through the uDac2 which I find to work well with both IEM’s.

 

For those who care the VSD3S has about 30 hours on it while the B3’s got hundreds of hours of use.

 

Sound:

The Havi B3’s offers an exceptional soundstage in both width and depth and has very good instrument separation.  It’s actually stupidly good in these areas and though the VSD3S also offers very good soundstage depth and width it lags a bit behind in separation.  I think this it’s mainly due to the fact that they offer a much fuller sound with more mid bass than the B3’s. The voice reproduction on the B3’s is the most natural I’ve ever heard in any IEM and again while the Vsonics are very good they don’t quiet sound as natural as the B3’s. 

 

Listening to music like Beck, Peter Malick Group feat. Norah Jones, Cowboy Junkies , Ane Brun, Passengers etc. really brings out the best in the B3’s and I think they outperform the VSD3S here.  That does not mean that the Vsonics is not good in these areas, it’s just that the B3’s are even better.

 

(Fun Fact 1: Listening to Cowboy Junkies “Blacked Eyed Man) on the B3’s during this comparison I suddenly realized I’ve listened to several tracks for pure enjoyment and forgotten all about what I was doing. That kind of says it all about the Havi’s with this kind of music to me.)

 

My main (and possible only) grip with the B3’s is the lack of bass. The bass it does offer have great control and there’s zero bass bleed.  It does however offer decent sub bass but I would have preferred that they’d been able to go even deeper and had a bit more impact.   The VSD3S on the other hand gives me the impact that I miss with the B3’s. 

 

When listening to Robyn, Daft Punk, Infected Mushroom, Pharrell Williams and my beloved Depeche Mode the B3’s sounds too thin and the lack of bass impact is obvious. The Vsonics on the other hand make listening to this kind of music pure enjoyment.  It fuller sound really comes in handy and I’m not missing any bass at all (please note that I’m the kind of guy that find the Q701 to have a great bass in both quality and quantity). As a matter of fact on some tracks I find the bass to be on the verge of boomy and a tiny bit slow but in all I’d say that they offer pretty much the ideal bass quantity for my liking and also very good bass quality.

 

(Fun Fact 2: Listening to Depeche Mode “Construction Time Again” on the VSD3S during this comparison I suddenly realized I’ve listened to several tracks for pure enjoyment and forgotten all about what I was doing. That kind of says it all about the Vsonics with this kind of music to me.)

 

Listening to “classic rock” like Eagles, Doors, REM, Pink Floyd, Dire Straits etc. the natural voices,  excellent separation and huge soundstage of the B3’s excels again and the slight lack of bass impact are easily forgiven. Moving up to more heavy stuff like Metallica, Alice In Chains, Celldweller, Nirvana and even Foo Fighters the extra weight in the sound that the VSD3S offers comes in very handy and makes the difference from enjoying it with the B3’s to go head banging with the Vsonics.

 

Summing it all up:

The overall sound of the Havi B3Pro1 is organic and natural. They’re very well balanced and lack a bit of bass impact. Listening to music on them reminds me of listening to vinyl through a tube amp.

 

The Vsonic VSD3S is a full sounding IEM with great bass reproduction that still feels well balanced. Listening to them reminds me more of listening to a CD on a digital amplifier.

 

These are both great budget IEM’s  and while the VSD3S come across as the better all rounder I still feel  that the B3’s are the best with the “right” kind of music (just take a listen to Amber Rubart’s “Sessions from the 17’th Wards” binaural recording with them and you’ll see what I mean, epic). I do, however, think that the VSD3S will be preferred by most people due to their fuller sound and more instant wow factor. The fact that you don’t need an amp to enjoy them will also make them more appealing to most people.

 

Ever since I’ve got the Havi B3Pro 1 about half a year ago I’ve been looking for the perfect supplement to them for all kind of music played straight from my phone and tried out A LOT of different IEM’s without feeling that they’ve satisfied me but now I’ve finally found it.

 

Please take this for what is: one man’s opinion from one man’s perspective and preferences.

Nice review Peter.

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Thanks Charlie!
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