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post #556 of 4001
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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post

Thanks! If after 2 more weeks, you still like the B3 more than the KC06A, then resistance may be futile for me!

I asked this in my last post, but have you heard how the B3 does through the C3/BH combo?

They are complements. One isn't necessarily better overall.
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Originally Posted by SilverEars View Post

I've noticed these are microdrivers made in China.  So are the Tenores.  Will these drivers degrade over time?  Has there been any post about significan't sonic changes over time?  

Also, do they require lots of juice like Tenores?  It seams micro divers needs amping.

I've had mine the longest, and they sound as good as I first opened them. They need even MORE power than the Tenores. They are easily one of the most power hungry iems available. They won't sound very good without an amp.
post #557 of 4001
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Originally Posted by gyx11 View Post

I had many hours with the KC06 (not the A), with source matching, some tip rolling and bombardment of all kinds of music

when maxed out with the best sources and amplification, the B3 is really just so much better than the KC06. the KC06 is merely augmented. the B3 is substantially improved.

KC06 is a brilliant IEM in itself, seemingly tuned for mass consumer appeal, to sound good from anything and with anything.

The B3 is a beast to be tamed. You need effort to make it sing. Long burn in, finding the right tips, a matching source and a powerful amp. If you don't have patience, or just want to find an instant wow factor, you'll end up sorely disappointed.............
.....I have observed and seen a sizable number of KC06 lovers sell after 3-4 weeks. it may have been very enjoyable, but the 'keeping factor' is not that strong for whatever reasons there is. I am one of those as well.

with the B3, I can safely say there is a very small chance I will part with it.

Great post man!

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Originally Posted by bhazard View Post

They are complements. One isn't necessarily better overall.
I've had mine the longest, and they sound as good as I first opened them. They need even MORE power than the Tenores. They are easily one of the most power hungry iems available. They won't sound very good without an amp.

+1, the B3 need as quite a lot more power than the Tenores.

After the initial burn in I've noticed no changes with my pair either.
Edited by peter123 - 6/1/14 at 10:51pm
post #558 of 4001
Need high power mp3 player to burn it in😉
post #559 of 4001
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Originally Posted by Wokei View Post


Yup ...agreed more appropriate here.

Thanks for the explanation ....like what I'm hearing about your take on Havi B3 ......sorry did not mean to put u on the spot on the KC06 thread but more for the reason why ONE is preferred over another . Did not realize at that moment it might be raise some issue....mad.gif Sorry my apologies. I always believe different ppl different source same iem ...equal different for everybody though there may be underlining similarity. A lot of ppl sometimes do not realize that their source equipment are much more superior in term of quality n sound compared to another person using a entry level mp3 player.....also i remember one guy was complaining that his new headphone sounds terrible and was ranting about ...and then later realized that his eq setting was set for his regular iem but the same setting distorted his new headphone.

As for me ..me gears are all below $50 n still holding strong ...mainly Chinese stuff and used item bought cheap but Havi has been on wish-list since bhazard put it out there last year in the Chinese thread. Will get ...one day ...when times are better.

Cheers man

No problem Wokei :beerchug:

 

Yeah, we all hear different and have different setup and preferences but that's what makes head-fi interesting.

post #560 of 4001

I have owned the B3 for a week or so now. Usually it´s at this time when i put them in a box and.. Go over to full sized cans. I don´t really see a use for iems more then a quick walk to work. Often comfort and the fiddle with tips to get a good seal is bothersome for my use at home. Still love to buy them though :P

 

But the B3... It´s such a darn good iem! It does not sound like an iem to me at all. The soundstage is so wide and the sound is so clear and airy that the feeling that you listen to iems is totally gone. The comfort in my ears is ace to and i have no problems getting a very good seal with the large stock tips. I have rolled tips alot but i keep coming back to the stock ones. 

 

The big selling point for me is that the B3 have clarity, detail and sound stage with everything without sounding veil or screechy. I listen to a lot of different genres, mostly metal and prog-rock but also alot of female singer songwriter stuff and blues. Often when i listen to different kinds of gear i find that they suit one genre or another. Let´s take the Piston 2.0 as a comparison. 

 

The Piston is a fun sounding little gem for the price. I use it for when i am on the move. The remote and volume control for android devices is neat! I love it for what it is. But i dont really like to listen to it seriously. It´s not bad sounding but i am tired of all the v-shaped iems you often find. It´s great for when on the move since traffic and other stuff filters out the bass quite alot for me. But for serious listening and even gaming ( they are very good for gaming ) The B3 is just fantastic. It´s has some qualities that i have never heard in an iem. Even more expensive ones. I´ts not tiresome but it has the detail and refinement one might want when taking the time for some quality listening. I absolutely love them!

 

But they absolutely need an amp. Without, the experience is lost and they just sound flat and underpowered. It´s a very noticeable difference when amped or not. 

 

I use them with my HRT headstreamer with my computer. It would not hurt with more power. But it gets the job done.

 

Portable rig is an ipod 5.5 gen ( wolfson dac ) with a fiio L9 and the Zigis C-moy. Sounds very good and powerful.

 

So get on the train!

post #561 of 4001
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Originally Posted by Arvan View Post
 

I have owned the B3 for a week or so now. Usually it´s at this time when i put them in a box and.. Go over to full sized cans. I don´t really see a use for iems more then a quick walk to work. Often comfort and the fiddle with tips to get a good seal is bothersome for my use at home. Still love to buy them though :P

 

But the B3... It´s such a darn good iem! It does not sound like an iem to me at all. The soundstage is so wide and the sound is so clear and airy that the feeling that you listen to iems is totally gone. The comfort in my ears is ace to and i have no problems getting a very good seal with the large stock tips. I have rolled tips alot but i keep coming back to the stock ones. 

 

The big selling point for me is that the B3 have clarity, detail and sound stage with everything without sounding veil or screechy. I listen to a lot of different genres, mostly metal and prog-rock but also alot of female singer songwriter stuff and blues. Often when i listen to different kinds of gear i find that they suit one genre or another. Let´s take the Piston 2.0 as a comparison. 

 

The Piston is a fun sounding little gem for the price. I use it for when i am on the move. The remote and volume control for android devices is neat! I love it for what it is. But i dont really like to listen to it seriously. It´s not bad sounding but i am tired of all the v-shaped iems you often find. It´s great for when on the move since traffic and other stuff filters out the bass quite alot for me. But for serious listening and even gaming ( they are very good for gaming ) The B3 is just fantastic. It´s has some qualities that i have never heard in an iem. Even more expensive ones. I´ts not tiresome but it has the detail and refinement one might want when taking the time for some quality listening. I absolutely love them!

 

But they absolutely need an amp. Without, the experience is lost and they just sound flat and underpowered. It´s a very noticeable difference when amped or not. 

 

I use them with my HRT headstreamer with my computer. It would not hurt with more power. But it gets the job done.

 

Portable rig is an ipod 5.5 gen ( wolfson dac ) with a fiio L9 and the Zigis C-moy. Sounds very good and powerful.

 

So get on the train!

Nice to se a fellow swede digging the B3's, I totally agree on your impression :beerchug:

post #562 of 4001
Stopstopstop!!! :-)

Everyone says it is wide...howsabout depthhhh?
post #563 of 4001
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Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post

Stopstopstop!!! :-)

Everyone says it is wide...howsabout depthhhh?

That's the thing, the depth is also top notch :gs1000smile:

post #564 of 4001
agree with many of the last few posts as well. I'm not sure why this is so, but to my ears, the biggest issue for the B3 with insufficient amping is airiness and clarity.

the KC06 had amazing (almost unnatural) sense of airiness to it and an equally open sound which the B3 was unable to match up to when I was still using my E07K (the dark fiio signature didn't help either). it was relatively good compared with other IEMs against it's price range, but not at the top of it's class IMHO. with the Audinst, and subsequently the geek out, it was as if a previously closed vent had been flipped open and the B3 seemed to 'burst out' from it's shell.
post #565 of 4001
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Originally Posted by peter123 View Post

No problem Wokei beerchug.gif

Yeah, we all hear different and have different setup and preferences but that's what makes head-fi interesting.

Hey bro,

What the status of your Topping NX1 ...eta ? I remeber you bought yours via eBay ...me too ..just wondering if it is the same seller " tool nerd"?

I'm still waiting for mine ...suck big time ...really need it to amp my S2 phone ..X3 taken by me other half.

Cheers man.cool.gif
post #566 of 4001
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Originally Posted by gyx11 View Post
........ the B3 seemed to 'burst out' from it's shell.

 

That's exactly how I feel when using them with the LD I+ and Voshkod tubes.

post #567 of 4001
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Originally Posted by Wokei View Post


Hey bro,

What the status of your Topping NX1 ...eta ? I remeber you bought yours via eBay ...me too ..just wondering if it is the same seller " tool nerd"?

I'm still waiting for mine ...suck big time ...really need it to amp my S2 phone ..X3 taken by me other half.

Cheers man.cool.gif

Yep, same seller.

 

And I'm still waiting................................

post #568 of 4001
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Originally Posted by gyx11 View Post

agree with many of the last few posts as well. I'm not sure why this is so, but to my ears, the biggest issue for the B3 with insufficient amping is airiness and clarity.

the KC06 had amazing (almost unnatural) sense of airiness to it and an equally open sound which the B3 was unable to match up to when I was still using my E07K (the dark fiio signature didn't help either). it was relatively good compared with other IEMs against it's price range, but not at the top of it's class IMHO. with the Audinst, and subsequently the geek out, it was as if a previously closed vent had been flipped open and the B3 seemed to 'bur
st out' from it's shell.

So would a Fiio e18 be enuf?
post #569 of 4001

Are

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Originally Posted by gyx11 View Post

agree with many of the last few posts as well. I'm not sure why this is so, but to my ears, the biggest issue for the B3 with insufficient amping is airiness and clarity.

the KC06 had amazing (almost unnatural) sense of airiness to it and an equally open sound which the B3 was unable to match up to when I was still using my E07K (the dark fiio signature didn't help either). it was relatively good compared with other IEMs against it's price range, but not at the top of it's class IMHO. with the Audinst, and subsequently the geek out, it was as if a previously closed vent had been flipped open and the B3 seemed to 'burst out' from it's shell.

Are there any amps that bring out B3 Pro without costing more than 3 times IEM lol.

post #570 of 4001
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Originally Posted by pokenguyen View Post
 

Are

Are there any amps that bring out B3 Pro without costing more than 3 times IEM lol.

If an amp three times the cost of the IEM makes them compete with others above the $200 mark it should be an good investment.

 

Since most people her own more that 1 (10?, 100?) can(s) and IEM(s) there should be pleaty of use for a good amp :wink_face:

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