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post #226 of 2555

Just pass them an email, hopefully have a reply soon. In the meanwhile I think I shoud find better earbuds for them :)

post #227 of 2555

my sennheiser double flanges have arrived! first impressions are overall positive, though not with a few drawbacks!

 

compared to the stock foams:

 

-much more comfortable to wear. they are now flush fit!
-much airer sound
-mids have stepped up a notch further
 

-bass is somewhat not as tight

-slight sibilance
 

note: i only had 10 minutes of listening time with the senn tips

will continue listening later and update on any additional impressions/changes. my exams are in two hours time ):

post #228 of 2555

listening to offenbach and bizet. the detailing and soundstage have improved as well. it's disgustingly good :eek:

post #229 of 2555
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by kiyoshikiyomizu View Post

Just pass them an email, hopefully have a reply soon. In the meanwhile I think I shoud find better earbuds for them smily_headphones1.gif

Please inform us when you get a reply from them.

I think you mean "eartips" as you type "earbuds" ?
post #230 of 2555
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Originally Posted by gyx11 View Post

listening to offenbach and bizet. the detailing and soundstage have improved as well. it's disgustingly good eek.gif
Good luck on your exams! wink.gif

Glad that senn's fit you. Continue to burning them in as well. The highs will calm down... Mine are very smooth now wink.gif
post #231 of 2555
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Originally Posted by gyx11 View Post
 

listening to offenbach and bizet. the detailing and soundstage have improved as well. it's disgustingly good :eek:


+1

yes, sound-stage is so amazing on these. i can hear sound from both front and back of my head :basshead:

post #232 of 2555
goodness me. the B3 with senn tips may not have the best of bass, may not be the best treble IEM that I own, but the mids, detail, timbre, clarity, soundstage and transparency are un-freaking-real
post #233 of 2555
Havi b3, sounds like the name of a Mexican rapper...

Anyways, just checked the tracking on mine and they are out for delivery. I feel like a kid on Christmas lol.

I'm hoping these live up to the hype
post #234 of 2555
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Originally Posted by Hisoundfi View Post

Havi b3, sounds like the name of a Mexican rapper...

Anyways, just checked the tracking on mine and they are out for delivery. I feel like a kid on Christmas lol.

I'm hoping these live up to the hype

Just burn them in -at least 15 hours-. This is the first stability point for bass. After passing 100 hours they reach the sweetspot for almost every aspect (in my opinion). Also experiment with tips...
post #235 of 2555
find the correct tips to extract the full potential from these. baycode has covered it extensively already so I'll just keep it short: flange tips with a wide bore which insert deep into your ear will give you the best result.

I have tried the stock silicon tips, which were average, the stock foam tips, which were slight better. by no means do they sound bad, but they are blown away by the senn tips.

it's not like I've been hearing marginal improvements in sound. practically every song I'm playing now has something new which I've not detected before. not with my R50s, Don Scorpio Dolphins, SE215, Xiaomi Pistons, Klipsch S4.

And these are the cheapest of them all.

There are drawbacks which must be stated. Bass quantity is average at best. The tightness of the bass could also be better. Treble is good with good recordings, but slightly harsh (although definitely not intolerably so) with poor recordings.

That's the only nitpicks. For $60 USD and with everything else positive about them, the B3 is an otherworldly IEM.

My KC06 is coming over the next few days. I can't wait to hear them considering how hyped they are. They look better than the B3 and seem to be very comfortable by most accounts too. I shall do a thorough A/B comparison. Hope they meet and if possible surpass the B3s, and then I won't have to upgrade my IEMs for a while yet!
post #236 of 2555
I just got them...

Also got the astrotec ax35s...

First impressions...

Havi b3 wins by a first round knock out. Not to take away from the ax35, but these havi b3 pro I are just that good.

These are awesome! Super clear and balanced. Plenty of bass IMHO

One thing I will say, these things are power hungry! I actually turned the gain to high on my e18 amp. I think an amp is almost a requirement to really get the most out of them.

But seriously, what a beautiful signature these have!

I just listened to "motherboard" from Daft Punk's Random Access Memories. The end of the song was so clear and natural sounding I had to go take a piss lol. If you get a chance give that one a listen and you'll know what I'm saying.
Edited by Hisoundfi - 4/25/14 at 10:56am
post #237 of 2555
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Originally Posted by Hisoundfi View Post

I just got them...

Also got the astrotec ax35s...

First impressions...

Havi b3 wins by a first round knock out. Not to take away from the ax35, but these havi b3 pro I are just that good.

These are awesome! Super clear and balanced. Plenty of bass IMHO

One thing I will say, these things are power hungry! I actually turned the gain to high on my e18 amp. I think an amp is almost a requirement to really get the most out of them.

But seriously, what a beautiful signature these have!

I just listened to "motherboard" from Daft Punk's Random Access Memories. The end of the song was so clear and natural sounding I had to go take a piss lol. If you get a chance give that one a listen and you'll know what I'm saying.

As good of a compliment that may be, it might be tough to put that in their marketing. "So clear it'll make you piss" lol

post #238 of 2555
What's your source? An iPhone is more than enough to drive these suckers, I believe others said a clip or whatever was borderline. Gonna check that song now

I've noticed that in normal rock songs with a lot of instruments going the bass on these doesn't seem that good, but on daft punk's "get lucky," the bass is plentiful. Also, in other songs the highs don't seem as clear as get lucky is right now. I guess this all could be from recording quality, using spotify.
Edited by jonnyp11 - 4/25/14 at 11:53am
post #239 of 2555
Thread Starter 
Record quailty plays big role for B3 to show its capabilities.

In comparison, I find B3 to be more refined and laid back, accurate version of kc06.

I have burned my Kc06 in and its sounding better now (my first impressions were not so good). Detailing in high freq range surprised me. Its crystal clear. But looses that detail on low freq ranges. Difficulty on placement of instruments (bad imaging), layering and separation problems, and generally bright signature with less prominent subbass (also emphasize on mid and lowmid bass), lack of depth, lack of isolation make kc06 a looser "for me". I haven't tried tip rolling yet (may be something can change...). I dont mean they are bad. No they are on the top tier level. But my mature ears dont match with them well. I prefer B3 in many ways.

For now all I can say that KC06 is a teenager while B3 Pro1 is a mature beast. Sure they are both beasts though... KC06 is energetic, exciting, happy, full of hopes and it takes you in the middle of the party place while B3 brings you to the record studio (or place) and B3 leaves you with a feeling like its saying: "just sit back and relax, I know what I have to do", and it does it in a perfect way wink.gif

But teenager beast cannot be used in noisy environments which limits its use "in my opinion".

One note for B3 users: just leave them burning-in over the nights. After passing 100 hours its gritty highs settles down. Mine are smooth and creamy now wink.gif

In my opinion timbre, accuracy, separation, layering, soundstage, depth, imaging, linearity, detail on all freq ranges and isolation are biggest strengths of Havi B3 Pro1. I almost feel of "being there" while listening to these.

KC06 is a high freq detail monster, airy, huge soundstage width, good midbass, enjoyable for many people... But depth is shallow. Also isolation is below average for me. Imaging is not even close to Havi.

Hope this helps...
Edited by Baycode - 4/25/14 at 11:56pm
post #240 of 2555
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Originally Posted by Baycode View Post

Record quailty plays big role for B3 to show its capabilities.

In comparison, I find B3 to be more refined and laid back, accurate version of kc06.

I have burned my Kc06 in and its sounding better now (my first impressions were not so good). Detailing in high freq range surprised me. Its crystal clear. But looses that detail on low freq ranges. Difficulty on placement of instruments (bad imaging), layering and separation problems, and generally bright signature with less prominent subbass (also emphasize on mid and lowmid bass), lack of depth, lack of isolation make kc06 a looser "for me". I haven't tried tip rolling yet (may be something can change...). I dont mean they are bad. No they are on the top tier level. But my mature ears dont match with them well. I prefer B3 in many ways.

For now all I can say that KC06 is a teenager while B3 Pro1 is a mature beast. Sure they are both beasts though... KC06 is energetic, exciting, happy, full of hopes and it takes you in the middle of the party place while B3 brings you to the record studio (or place) and B3 leaves you with a feeling like its saying: "just sit back and relax, I know what I have to do", and it does it in a perfect way wink.gif

But teenager beast cannot be used in noisy environments which limits its use "in my opinion".

One note for B3 users: just leave them burning-in over the nights. After passing 100 hours its gritty highs settles down. Mine are smooth and creamy now wink.gif

In my opinion timbre, accuracy, separation, layering, soundstage, depth, imaging, linearity, detail on all freq ranges and isolation are biggest strengths of Havi B3 Pro1. I almost feel of "being there" while listening to these.

KC06 is a high freq detail monster, airy, huge soundstage width, good midbass, enjoyable for many people... But depth is shallow. Also isolation is below average for me. Imaging is not even close to Havi.

Hope this helps...

It does help ... just somehow can not see it used for KC 06 marketing LOL !

 

My B3 chose to fall on the floor in the church I recorded a concert in 9 days ago - as it is remote area of the church I usually "hide" with all of my equipment, and thar area is generally "off limits", the dark black clam havi case was left on the black marble strip, almost under a step, in a corner that even lighting can not reach - so it was still there:biggrin:. Stealth at its best ?

 

Otherwise, I am pleasently surprised at the choice of music used to audition the B3, at least by some users. Most recently, Bizet and Offenbach were mentioned. I do not see acoustical unamplified music mentioned much on head-fi, and if and when it does get mentioned as being used for evaluation purposes, it is usually with MUCH higher priced gear. B3 appears to set an all time lowest price point record for truly accurate "cans" for the serious music lover/audiophile.

 

Yesterday, I met with a choir conductor to give him the masters of a recent concert he prepaired the choir for. We met in a local pub , enjoying beer while bits and bytes were being transferred to his laptop ( some 35 GB, DSD masters are BIG ). After installing everything necesary to play back DSD on hic mac, I gave him to listen to the recordings with my ( well burned in) B3s. He only asked where can he get them - and ordered them from Penonaudio on the spot.

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