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That's a nice ride. Is that yours Mike?
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That's a nice ride. Is that yours Mike?

that is a nice ride!

Forget the Geek Out 1000!

 

You need a Light Harmonic DaVinci DAC for that beast!

 

on the Geek Out tip:

 

I brought mine to the Newport show to play for people in our hotel room, as I've played a ton of music through it since our review at Part-Time Audiophile, and the dimensionality grew - the spacial placement has even more air now - HOWEVER:

 

My buddy almost killed his ear-drums because of the volume-control issue (how it resets back to maximum on

the Geek Out if I touch the volume controls on my MacBook Pro by mistake)

 

Larry:

Can that be fixed via Firmware????

 

Other than that - the sonics have only improved on my end, and I LOVE driving my new Audeze LCD-2 w/ Fazor with the Geek!!

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Larry:

Can that be fixed via Firmware????

 

They will soon release a new firmware to change that, and also to support Native DSD... ;)

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This may have been mentioned on this thread already, but I've looked and can't find out what dac the geek out uses? I remember somewhere reading it is a Sabre dac - can anyone give more info?

 

I have a GO450 on the way and I'm interested.

 

Thanks!

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This may have been mentioned on this thread already, but I've looked and can't find out what dac the geek out uses? I remember somewhere reading it is a Sabre dac - can anyone give more info?

 

I have a GO450 on the way and I'm interested.

 

Thanks!


ESS 9018M - mobile version of 9018.  Requires less power to drive.

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Larry:
Can that be fixed via Firmware????

They will soon release a new firmware to change that, and also to support Native DSD... wink.gif
One of the big selling points for the Geek Out was that it can play DSD. Can it not play DSD right now or something?
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One of the big selling points for the Geek Out was that it can play DSD. Can it not play DSD right now or something?

 

Currently it can by DoP, but after this update you still can by DoP or by Native DSD(through ASIO driver).

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That's a nice ride. Is that yours Mike?

No. I posted that photo as a joke that it seems nobody got. And I'd only be sticking the other foot in my mouth if I try to explain the joke.

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Mike
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No matter do you have a geekout? Curious on your thoughts versus the dacport.
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No matter do you have a geekout? Curious on your thoughts versus the dacport.

Strike two! I don't have one of those either! redface.gif

I'm waiting for them to fix the volume control issue and for the waiting list to diminish, but from what I've read, the sound is wonderful, for sure.

Mike
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Oh come on, you made me curious. Just explain the joke smily_headphones1.gif
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No matter do you have a geekout? Curious on your thoughts versus the dacport.

I have DACport and GO 450. They have different sound signature. GO doesn't replaced my DACport, for some pairings, DACport sounds better, more organic sound, and a touch warmer.

IMHO my GO 450 sounds detailed and powerful, with slightly richer treble, but also sometime sounds a bit dry, and a bit sterile when compared to DACport.

GO also has higher background noise, and DACport is more silent.

DACport has a very organic sound, never sound dry and sterile. With analytics IEM, DACport sounds much better than GO 450.

But for warm sounding IEM, especially those with soft treble, like JVC FX850 for example, I like Geek Out better.
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Having owned DACport in the past, and a GO450 now- suppose I concur on the organic vs a bit "dry" comparison.
But do you have a GO1000 ? Because GO450 is dead black silent background with my IEMs and HP50.

sold DACport long ago due to scratchy volume knob and form factor.
How do DSD files sound via your DACport? wink.gif
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Having owned DACport in the past, and a GO450 now- suppose I concur on the organic vs a bit "dry" comparison.
But do you have a GO1000 ? Because GO450 is dead black silent background with my IEMs and HP50.

sold DACport long ago due to scratchy volume knob and form factor.
How do DSD files sound via your DACport? wink.gif

 

I don't have GO 1000, and I cannot imagine in what condition will I need 1000 mW power, where I'm still struggling with around max 20 usable volume levels with GO 450 (on windows volume slider). I have big headphones, like ortho dynamic, but I prefer to keep it home and pair it with my desktop amp rather than the powerful GO.  So GO will mainly for portable use with IEM and small easy to drive headphones on the go.  And I think 450 mW is a bit too high for my portable use.

 

I notice that different USB ports resulting different level of background noise on GO 450. So, I suspect that the GO analog section kind of prone to USB 5 volt ripple noise. I will try to DIY a clean 5 volt, and try it with GO later.  But in all cases, using DUNU DN-1000 and DN-2000, DACport is more silent than GO 450. Apparent when plunging and unplugging the IEM to the headphone output.  I tried the 47 ohm output of GO, connected to external amp, Fiio E12DIY, dead silent. I guess the 0.47 ohm amp section is prone to USB noise. So far the noise is most heard on the DUNUs, and less with other IEM.

 

DACport scratchy volume knob is not due to volume pot quality, but due to the entire design of the amp.  The amp convert the single rail 5 volt supply from USB port to dual rail + and - power supply for the class A amplifier in DACport. Due to this design, scratchy noise when volume pot is turned is expected, and not due to low quality or deteriorate volume pot.

 

DSD files sounds good on GO ;), with expected differences from the same PCM track, comparing to my other DSD DACs and players. DSD files generally always sounds smoother on the treble with fuller mids.  Quite consistent from DAC to DAC.

 

For some recordings, DSD and the PCM files converted from the DSD files, DSD play using GO, and PCM using DACport, using the DUNUs, it would be depending on the recordings. For some recording, mainly vocal I still prefer the pairing of DACport and the DUNUs.  Vocal sounds more organic and more intimate to my ears.  GO has better detail, for some recordings like classical orchestra, it shines better than the DACport, and pairs well with the DUNUs for those type of recordings.  So depending on the recordings, not so on the format.

 

In general, when the recording sounds too vibrant and glaring on GO, the DACport is the DAC of choice. When the recording sounds too smooth and a bit dull on DACport, GO will brings out more detail and sparkle, and would be the better choice of the two.

The PCM vs DSD differences is not as much as the differences of the sound characteristic of the headphone amps. So DSD feature alone is not good enough to make me sell my DACport :cool:

 

They are good in their own ways.  There is no gear fits all.  Pairing and matching is always the key for optimum sound.  It is not about which gear is better than the other.


Edited by earfonia - 7/5/14 at 10:47pm
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