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Originally Posted by germay0653 View Post
 


Heat really isn't an issue.  Since the amp is running class A it's expected and the unit does get warm to slightly hot.  There is a volume control issue that should be addressed in the next firmware release.  Considering the cost of the Geek Out (max $299) and comparing it to the AK240 ($2400) being just a little flat is a pretty amazing accomplishment.

 

When it comes out, the Geek Wave XD 128 ($899) should compare and/or exceed the current AK240 performance.  Mind you it's all on paper at this point but the design should allow it to compete favorably.

this is basically the main reason why i am trying to find out more about the geek house sound. 

post #617 of 2304
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Originally Posted by angelo898 View Post
 

going back about 15 pages basically told me that the GO has heating and volume control issues. People were also over expecting for a cheap device. currawong did compare it to the ak240 briefly, mentioning that it was a little flat compared to the ak240, but no nobody did really mention about whether it is a warm or neutral sound from what i read at least


There are sound quality impressions going back 15 pages.

 

Your question is far too open ended anyway, what kind of headphones would you potentially be using with the GO1000? Ditto the source, and any accompanying cables.

 

All will influence the sound in some way, subtle or not.

 

So one person's description of the sound will vary from another's, even if they had the same source and cables, just due to the subjective nature of it.

 

As far as a "house sound", not everything has that or can be summed into a few words accurately describing it, such as the obligatory "warm" or "bright".

 

In those 15 pages, you didn't see any posts describing an essentially neutral/even tonal balance with great dynamic slam and detail, along with superb stereo imaging/sound staging?


Edited by MikeyFresh - 5/19/14 at 8:28am
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[name="maricius" url="/t/711267/light-harmonic-geek-out-em-1000-impressions-and-appreciation-thread/600#post_10558329"]Has anyone here compared the sound of the line-out (DAC only) between the Geek Out and the nano iDSD yet? By extension, can anybody compare these to the CLAS -dB or the Centrance DACport LX? I know they all have their differences and extras but in the end, which do you feel has the best USB DAC?
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See the recent reviews of each on Audiostream. I have owned both at different times. Both are great sounding, but the iDSD had too much hiss even at low volumes for my very sensitive 846 IEMs. A shame . But they are coming out with a resistor attachment to address this Issue with sensitive IEMs) both on terms of hiss and usable volume control).

Thanks jexby and Roscoeiii for your posts, but can you kindly expand on your comments about the SQ of the Geek Out and iDSD Nano beyond the issue of hiss? You know, tone, resolution, soundstaging, dynamics, DSD vs redbook playback, etc? Michael Lavorgna's notes are all we have so far. Thanks.

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name="mink70" url="/t/711267/light-harmonic-geek-out-em-1000-impressions-and-appreciation-thread/615#post_10560897"]Thanks jexby and Roscoeiii for your posts, but can you kindly expand on your comments about the SQ of the Geek Out and iDSD Nano beyond the issue of hiss? You know, tone, resolution, soundstaging, dynamics, DSD vs redbook playback, etc? Michael Lavorgna's notes are all we have so far. Thanks.
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Didn't have them side by side and owned them at least a month apart. So not a lot I can say. The reviews from ML reflect my experience pretty well.
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Originally Posted by mink70 View Post
 

Thanks jexby and Roscoeiii for your posts, but can you kindly expand on your comments about the SQ of the Geek Out and iDSD Nano beyond the issue of hiss? You know, tone, resolution, soundstaging, dynamics, DSD vs redbook playback, etc? Michael Lavorgna's notes are all we have so far. Thanks.

 

From the comments, Michael has said that he preferred the iDSD even over the iDAC of the same company. Quite an achievement for iFi and even more so that this is the nano iDSD. I wonder how the micro iDSD would sound. It better be a giant killer!!

 

I'm happy to see that the trend of placing products at increasing prices has lessened and is slowly being replaced by the trend of having extremely good value offerings


Edited by maricius - 5/19/14 at 12:46pm
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From the comments, Michael has said that he preferred the iDSD even over the iDAC of the same company. Quite an achievement for iFi and even more so that this is the nano iDSD. I wonder how the micro iDSD would sound. It better be a giant killer!!

 

I'm happy to see that the trend of placing products at increasing prices has lessened and is slowly being replaced by the trend of having extremely good value offerings

 

As in many things audio, we are talking about 2 very high quality flavors here. So much choice between the iFi and Geek gear will come down to personal prefs and gear synergy. 

 

But LH and iFi are both putting out stellar gear for great prices. 

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Originally Posted by MikeyFresh View Post
 

 

In those 15 pages, you didn't see any posts describing an essentially neutral/even tonal balance with great dynamic slam and detail, along with superb stereo imaging/sound staging?

actually these are the typical biased opinions that come out of most head fiers posts

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Biased in what way?
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OK, picking up on something posted a bit back. I decided to try Audioquest Dragontail cable to connect GO1K instead of the included cable. Too tired now to do AB'ing, just feel like listening, but my initial impression is that it is really good sounding, and significantly improves the sound of this unit (listening through JRiver19 and Shure 1540). Maybe I won't be able to tell the difference when I do head to head comparisons, and I liked the sound quite a bit with the original cable, but my initial impression is that the AQ cable is a significant upgrade.
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OK, picking up on something posted a bit back. I decided to try Audioquest Dragontail cable to connect GO1K instead of the included cable. Too tired now to do AB'ing, just feel like listening, but my initial impression is that it is really good sounding, and significantly improves the sound of this unit (listening through JRiver19 and Shure 1540). Maybe I won't be able to tell the difference when I do head to head comparisons, and I liked the sound quite a bit with the original cable, but my initial impression is that the AQ cable is a significant upgrade.

 

Yeah I've been using the Dragontail with my Geek Outs too and it sounds great. I haven't bothered to compare with the included cable though so don't know how much of a sound quality difference, if any, there is between the two. The Dragontail just feels like a much more high quality cable and I like its stiffness, prevents the Geek Outs from moving around much.


Edited by akarise - 5/19/14 at 8:26pm
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actually these are the typical biased opinions that come out of most head fiers posts

Dude, what do you want? All listener impressions are subjective and biased. You asked for impressions without reading through the thread and then dismiss what people give you? What do you expect from an impressions thread? LHLabs has published performance numbers if you are one of those guys who needs them. There are a couple pro reviews as well. Buy one and listen for yourself if Headfi threads aren't good enough for you.
post #627 of 2304
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actually these are the typical biased opinions that come out of most head fiers posts

 

In that case I guess there is no point in reading any opinions on head-fi on any piece of gear since you feel that most head-fiers' posts are typically biased. Why even bother asking for opinions from head-fiers then if you're gonna dismiss them as biased?

post #628 of 2304
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actually these are the typical biased opinions that come out of most head fiers posts

wtf.

essentially neutral/even tonal balance - how is that biased. that is exactly what you wanted.

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VOLUME CONTROL revisited.

 

Playing a bit on the volume control and this is how I understood it (for now):

 

In the LH device control panel, under output volume control we have two volume slider:

 

 

 

The Master (Volume Buttons) and Analogue1 & 2 (System Volume Left and Right).

When plugging your GO, Master Volume (Volume Buttons) are set to MAX (Bitperfect?).

Analogue 1 & 2 acquires volume settings from OS.

 

When touching Volume Buttons to adjust ((Bulging button is Volume UP),

GO sets to value of Master (hence blasting your ears since it sets to MAX (Bitperfect?)).

 

Reducing Master Volume from Control Panel (in my case, half) will eliminate this problem. 

But my general advice is: Don't touch the Volume Buttons. Use OS/Application Volume..

 

 

 

 

When moving slider of OS System Volume to adjust, GO sets to value of Analogue 1 & 2

 

Remember, removing and replugging GO will reset Master Volume to MAX.

 

Note: I'm saying MAX(Bitperfect?), because when you slide Master Volume all the way up the the value is Greyed out.

Larry was saying before about setting volume to Max to achieve Bitperfect. I am not sure.

 

Other Notes:

 

You could also disable Master, Analogue 1 & 2 volume by clicking Volume Icon. 

Disabling Master Volume will revert to MAX(Bitperfect?).   

 

 

Or set Analogue 1 (Left) or Analogue 2 (Right) values by clicking the Link Button and slide the desired values. 

 


Edited by m-i-c-k-e-y - 5/20/14 at 4:58am
post #630 of 2304
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Originally Posted by mink70 View Post
 

Thanks jexby and Roscoeiii for your posts, but can you kindly expand on your comments about the SQ of the Geek Out and iDSD Nano beyond the issue of hiss? You know, tone, resolution, soundstaging, dynamics, DSD vs redbook playback, etc? Michael Lavorgna's notes are all we have so far. Thanks.

 

It will be at least a week before spending time on a comparison between the nano iDSD and GO450 with my macbook pro retina and HP50.

likely will be condensed report as well, with only about 2 lossless AIFF files, and then with 2 or 3 DSD files.  

I'm not a seasoned reviewer, nor would my ears prove or disprove anything ML wrote either.   ;-)

 

at the moment, when I'm listening to either unit over course of a few days, don't have any "complaints".

this might be too close to call in the end..... 

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