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Poll Results: What % of your listening is Desktop vs Portable? (click on ONE answer please)

Poll expired: Apr 22, 2014  
  • 22% (30)
    Desktop (100%)
  • 36% (49)
    Desktop (75%) & Portable (25%)
  • 18% (25)
    Desktop (50%) & Portable (50%)
  • 17% (24)
    Desktop (25%) & Portable (75%)
  • 5% (7)
    Portable (100%)
135 Total Votes  
post #1111 of 1891
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Originally Posted by jhwalker View Post
 


Yeah, the high bitrate support is just fluff for me - may be good some day, no benefit (to me) right now.  

 

The real benefits I see are:

 

  • Much higher power for headphones vs. Nano (130mW vs 2,000mW at 32 Ohms). I have everything from IEMs to HE-500, so the higher power (and adjustability for IEMs, etc.) will be great
  • iPurifier technology built-in - no need for external USB "decrappifier"
  • Selectable filters for both PCM and DSD, including "bit perfect" filter that minimizes both pre / post ringing somehow
  • Charging port for portable devices (e.g., iPhone)
  • Direct connect to iPhone via Apple's own Lightning adapter
  • "3D" / XBass - extras I may or may not use 

Well you can upsample on the fly with HQ Player and some pundits claim its superior...

post #1112 of 1891
Quote:
Originally Posted by jhwalker View Post
 


Yeah, the high bitrate support is just fluff for me - may be good some day, no benefit (to me) right now.  

 

The real benefits I see are:

 

  • Much higher power for headphones vs. Nano (130mW vs 2,000mW at 32 Ohms). I have everything from IEMs to HE-500, so the higher power (and adjustability for IEMs, etc.) will be great
  • iPurifier technology built-in - no need for external USB "decrappifier"
  • Selectable filters for both PCM and DSD, including "bit perfect" filter that minimizes both pre / post ringing somehow
  • Charging port for portable devices (e.g., iPhone)
  • Direct connect to iPhone via Apple's own Lightning adapter
  • "3D" / XBass - extras I may or may not use 

Besides HiRez support without a peer (at the moment) , ALL of the above will be used and is appreciated. So many so useful features in one single product is hard to imagine equalled, let alone betterd at anywhere the price. I particularly like analog "3D", as usually crosfeed is implemented with DSP - which is the last thing you might wish for in strictly analog or DSD scenario. 

post #1113 of 1891
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Originally Posted by wisnon View Post
 

Well you can upsample on the fly with HQ Player and some pundits claim its superior...

 

You can upsample on the fly with just about any player (e.g., Audirvana, HQ Player, JRiver Media Center, Pure Music, etc.), this is just another way to skin a cat.  FWIW, if I'm on the road playing from my iPad / iPhone, I won't be upsampling on the device, but might enjoy playing with the filters on the Micro instead.

post #1114 of 1891

When I said, recording engineers would take another look to increasing their skills in making better recordings and mastering in the first place,

I implying in general terms.  I do not necessary mean to say that engineers should record at higher bit rate but to have the basics down better. Right choice of mics the placement and the recording venue play a role in SQ. Of course we are limited by the performance of the musicians as well. I heard master tapes that were wonderful and the commercial version from those master tapes leaves a lot to be desired. I used to be a vinyl junkie but found found LP records while enjoyable to be lacking from what I heard from the master tapes. The Barclay Crocker open reel tapes I used to have was just sublime as compared to the LP commercial version all came from the same master tapes. I was just hoping that there will be increased focus on SQ in general for recordings.  I do find that that on some DSD web sites, the engineers work hard to get the best recording possible at the start with the almost famous artists. That's my point of view.

 

 

post #1115 of 1891
Quote:
Originally Posted by jhwalker View Post
 

 

You can upsample on the fly with just about any player (e.g., Audirvana, HQ Player, JRiver Media Center, Pure Music, etc.), this is just another way to skin a cat.  FWIW, if I'm on the road playing from my iPad / iPhone, I won't be upsampling on the device, but might enjoy playing with the filters on the Micro instead.

I meant to ALL to DSD512 of course. HQ Player is reputed to have the best algorithm of the lot for this.

 

This is desktop stuff, i agree that not applicable to mobile usage….

 

The Micro is very versatile and can be all things to all people.

post #1116 of 1891
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Originally Posted by iFi audio View Post

Hi,

Yes - each one of the 12 winners get one of the "Octa-Adopter 512" units and all the perks that come with it, including the iClub membership.

All good.

normal_smile%20.gif

Competition? Is there a competition going on? I think I missed it! smily_headphones1.gif
post #1117 of 1891
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Originally Posted by guglia72 View Post

Competition? Is there a competition going on? I think I missed it! smily_headphones1.gif

I believe it's regarding the 12 winners chosen by iFi for their suggestions in the Crowd-Design. Winners get a free iDSD micro
post #1118 of 1891
I'm a bit late to this party, but I believe that Thorsten, Vincent & the iFi team have really captured the zeitgeist with their products. I've been lucky enough to have tested most of the Micro range prior to them being launched on the market, and they have all delivered way above their price in terms of sonics. Big kudos!
The addition of a coax input is a great idea, I've 2 USB DACs now (iDac and the HRT Streamer 2+) with one USB source, it'd be great if I could utilize the HRT with my old Squeezebox Duet. The iDac by the way, is a significant improvement over the Streamer 2+, even without the iUSB Power.
Now, where do I find a decent analogue to digital converter so I can rip my sweet vinyl to my Mac...

Gaz.
post #1119 of 1891
Quote:
Originally Posted by Witchdoctorgaz View Post

I'm a bit late to this party, but I believe that Thorsten, Vincent & the iFi team have really captured the zeitgeist with their products. I've been lucky enough to have tested most of the Micro range prior to them being launched on the market, and they have all delivered way above their price in terms of sonics. Big kudos!

Now, where do I find a decent analogue to digital converter so I can rip my sweet vinyl to my Mac...

Gaz.

May I offer a suggestion. My first thought would be to check the PS audio product NuWave.  After all the company started out with a phono pre-amp product. The NuWave can also output to DSD or PCM. To record maybe the Pure Vinyl product. It is not the lowest cost option.  I am more of a PC guy not Mac. There are many other choices that I have not look into. PS Audio just happen to be near where I live.

post #1120 of 1891
Thanks John,

I'm aware of the NuWave and other high end ADC's, personally I'd listen to the vinyl on my turntable while at home so the rips would be great while on the move or at work (an oil rig...).
I've also got the iDsd Nano, so DSD rips to my iPod Touch would be terrific. I wouldn't throw silly money at an ADC though, I had a little Pro-Ject Phonobox USB that did the trick but it was limited to 16/44.1. It sounded fine though, wish I'd held on to it now!
post #1121 of 1891
Quote:
Originally Posted by john57 View Post
 

When I said, recording engineers would take another look to increasing their skills in making better recordings and mastering in the first place,

I implying in general terms.  I do not necessary mean to say that engineers should record at higher bit rate but to have the basics down better. Right choice of mics the placement and the recording venue play a role in SQ. Of course we are limited by the performance of the musicians as well. I heard master tapes that were wonderful and the commercial version from those master tapes leaves a lot to be desired. I used to be a vinyl junkie but found found LP records while enjoyable to be lacking from what I heard from the master tapes. The Barclay Crocker open reel tapes I used to have was just sublime as compared to the LP commercial version all came from the same master tapes. I was just hoping that there will be increased focus on SQ in general for recordings.  I do find that that on some DSD web sites, the engineers work hard to get the best recording possible at the start with the almost famous artists. That's my point of view.

 

 

I agree with all of the above. I still am  a vinyl junkie, but there are limitations in vinyl that just can not be improved upon with vinyl as we know it today - and that is dynamic range, specially in the bass. DSD does not have those limitations, but DSD64 is not transparent enough in the treble for a truly convincing recording of vinyl.

DSD128 almost gets it right - I expect the DSD256 to be finally so close to the original for the remaining difference to be not worth it bothering with yet higher DSD rate. DSD512 should be used for master recordings.

 

Under no circumstances is the sole use of higher sample rate ( distinction from higher bit rate !, DSD is a 1 bit format ) a guarantee the recording will be better - but people who go to these lenghts are probably more likely to get the basics better too. I wanted to share what are the practical limitations with even the top gear available today and the costs of the adoption of the true DSD512 brings about. 

post #1122 of 1891
Quote:
Originally Posted by iFi audio View Post

Hi,

Yes - each one of the 12 winners get one of the "Octa-Adopter 512" units and all the perks that come with it, including the iClub membership.

All good.

normal_smile%20.gif

Woooohoooo! I'm getting excited xD thanks!

I guess the next thing is what's included in the box? biggrin.gif

Thanks iFi smily_headphones1.gif
post #1123 of 1891
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Originally Posted by maricius View Post

I believe it's regarding the 12 winners chosen by iFi for their suggestions in the Crowd-Design. Winners get a free iDSD micro

WOW! That's what I call a nice surprise!
post #1124 of 1891
the dirty dozen! cool.gif
post #1125 of 1891
Video and audio industries will pursue higher res formats only if that helps them sell more TVs and audio players, but most important, if they are convinced that it will make content piracy much harder.
For Idsd: i want to buy a first batch micro idsd through an US based friend. I live in Spain. Can I still qualify for "da ifi club"?
Thanks
David
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