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So yeah, right now I'm looking for one more headphone. It's probably going to be the last headphone I'll ever purhcase, so I'm going to go off with a bang. And I'm gonna need some help from you guys.

 

So, here's my criteria:

  • Budget: $300, might be able to push to $360 or maybe even $400 if I'm lucky
  • Wear type: Over-ear, might go for on-ear.
  • Preferred signature: Great soundstage and positional accuracy. Would sacrifice some bass for more detail.
  • Headphone type: Preferably closed, but would go for open if the need arises.
  • Usage: 75% music (indoor), 10% recording/mixing, 10% gaming, 5% music (outdoor)
  • Music: 30% acoustic, 40% electronic, 20% classical, 10% rock
  • Sources: iPod, HTPC -> optical cable -> Yamaha 5.1ch receiver/amp
  • Extras: Removable (if not very durable) cable

 

Right now, I'm looking at:

  • AKG K701, K702, Q701: They seem great, and MLE says they're god-mode inducing.
  • Monster DNA Pro: Not sure what to say about this, really. I don't dig the futuristic styling, but it's Mr. M's personal protable headphone, so why not?
  • Sennheiser HD600: They say it's a legend. I have no idea what they say by "laid-back." I'm really unsure of this headphone. I might as well just leave it to you guys.
  • Sennheiser Apmerior: They say it's a great portable. Would prefer the DT1350s over them, but I found these guys a tad cheaper.
  • Philips Fidelio X1: Best open cans I've ever seen. They say it's got big bass and great detail, so I would kill for one of these. My parents might think otherwise.
  • B&O H6: The ultimate headphone -- for me, that is. Looks great, feels great, sounds great. It'd be my go-to headphone for years to come. Sadly, parents say no since it's really expensive. I might wait 'til the sun -- er, price -- goes down.

 

Well, if you guys have any suggestions, thanks in advance!


Edited by thatBeatsguy - 3/19/14 at 10:07am
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Bump?

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Bumpa Bumpa!

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The Q701 and K701 meet most of your criteria I think.  The Quincy having a detachable cable though. so you lose out on that with the K model.  You mention mixing and recording, and for that a more neutral spectral balance I think works best.  IE... as balanced sounding as possible without tipping the spectral scale too much one way or another.  I use the K701 as a guitar monitor and it serves that purpose very well.

 

K701 versus HD600:  Two very different sounding cans.  HD600 is more distant and more laid back.  Less hyper-active in the upper midrange tones.  The 7xx series has some resonant colorations (or something beyond pure frequency boost) in the upper midrange which for many is a source of strong dislike.  Paird up with the wrong amp and you can end up with a weird synergy.  I have found solid state amps that energize the HD600/650 upper midrange sound terrible with the K701.  K701 bass is more "dry", less wooly-warm and plump-resonant sounding.  Others have called the K701 bass-shy, but personally I don't think it is.  As far as imaging and soundstage goes both are really good... but the K701 is the winner.  It has a very layered presentation.  As far as image and soundstage goes I think the K701 is a best in class... going toe to toe with much higher priced cans.  The Quincy model is the same thing, but with a more bass-heavy signature.  I think all three cans sound great out of a standard home theater receiver, but I have found the K701 to be more difficult to amp than the HD600.  The HD600 does have removable cables... but they are proprietary Sennheiser plugs, not mini-XLR or anything standardized.  Personally I don't think the Senn cable plug is designed to be daily-repeatedly plugged and unplugged.  The HD600 is easier to mod and upgrade.  Mine have been upgraded (if you can call it that) with HD650 drivers and cable... and its essentially a 650.

 

Comfort wise I think the HD600/650 beats the 701 by a slight margin.  Its a little smaller and doesn't occupy as much real-estate against the side of my face and around the ear.  I think the HD600 headband can't be beat.  I shave my head and I can wear them all day with no discomfort.

 

If you don't really need the isolation, skip it.  In this price range the best imaging cans are going to be open backed.

 

You should also consider used as well.  The BST forum here is flooded with catch & release threads.

Good Luck!!!

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The Q701 and K701 meet most of your criteria I think.  The Quincy having a detachable cable though. so you lose out on that with the K model.  You mention mixing and recording, and for that a more neutral spectral balance I think works best.  IE... as balanced sounding as possible without tipping the spectral scale too much one way or another.  I use the K701 as a guitar monitor and it serves that purpose very well.

 

K701 versus HD600:  Two very different sounding cans.  HD600 is more distant and more laid back.  Less hyper-active in the upper midrange tones.  The 7xx series has some resonant colorations (or something beyond pure frequency boost) in the upper midrange which for many is a source of strong dislike.  Paird up with the wrong amp and you can end up with a weird synergy.  I have found solid state amps that energize the HD600/650 upper midrange sound terrible with the K701.  K701 bass is more "dry", less wooly-warm and plump-resonant sounding.  Others have called the K701 bass-shy, but personally I don't think it is.  As far as imaging and soundstage goes both are really good... but the K701 is the winner.  It has a very layered presentation.  As far as image and soundstage goes I think the K701 is a best in class... going toe to toe with much higher priced cans.  The Quincy model is the same thing, but with a more bass-heavy signature.  I think all three cans sound great out of a standard home theater receiver, but I have found the K701 to be more difficult to amp than the HD600.  The HD600 does have removable cables... but they are proprietary Sennheiser plugs, not mini-XLR or anything standardized.  Personally I don't think the Senn cable plug is designed to be daily-repeatedly plugged and unplugged.  The HD600 is easier to mod and upgrade.  Mine have been upgraded (if you can call it that) with HD650 drivers and cable... and its essentially a 650.

 

Comfort wise I think the HD600/650 beats the 701 by a slight margin.  Its a little smaller and doesn't occupy as much real-estate against the side of my face and around the ear.  I think the HD600 headband can't be beat.  I shave my head and I can wear them all day with no discomfort.

 

If you don't really need the isolation, skip it.  In this price range the best imaging cans are going to be open backed.

 

You should also consider used as well.  The BST forum here is flooded with catch & release threads.

Good Luck!!!

   Thanks a lot for the tips. Actually, I'm not really sure about the mixing and recording thing -- I've only gotten started about a month ago and I'm not sure if I'm looking into getting serious. What I'm looking for is pretty much the best can my money could buy. I don't think that with it around, I would have to make any more headphone purchases.

   I've read that the Q701 has more bass than the K701, and that it's pretty much a recolored K702. Then again, others say that the K701 and 702 are the same except for the 702's removable cable. If you or anyone could clear that up, thanks in advance.

   I've now narrowed down to the AKGs and the Fidelio X1s. I've always found the X1 to be really good all-rounders considering they have some great bass. That, and they look drop dead gorgeous. What could you make of both headphones? Do you think the X1 could be a better choice for all-round listening?

   As for closed headphones, I've been looking at the K550s since they say it's got the soundstage of an open can. Is it true? Are there other headphones that perform similarly? I'm kinda nervous about getting open cans since I do have a sister, and we study in the same room (homeschooled XD), so I'm unsure if the noise will bother her or anything. 

 

Oh yeah, and as for the used cans thing, I'm quite certain I won't go used since basically, I can't. If you've read my location yet, you might find that I do live on the other side of the Pacific Ocean, so shipping will be more than a nuisance. But thanks for the tip anyway.

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