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post #346 of 888
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FYI the Sony MD10RBTs are on sale again for $150 @ Amazon, Best Buy, Sony store in case people missed the previous deal.

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Just picked up a pair of the 10RBT's at Best buy for $150.00, SO far so good. True test will be at the gym as far as outside noise. I think they will be fine. The AF62' are being returned. They block zero outside noise...

 

I also ran into Sony's new MDR-zx750BN. Early reviews on Amazon and Best Buy lean towards them not being good at all. They are a Bluetooth headset with active noise cancelling. They are on ear as opposed to over the ear. They don't sound very good. I bought these along with the 10RBT's to compare the two. These are definitely going back. Music sounds harsh, and the on ear design pushed on the ear. Nowhere near as comfortable as the 10RBT's.

post #347 of 888
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Originally Posted by tinyman392 View Post

Phiaton's BT NC headphones.  They are on-ear, but do a decent job and sound better than the 9000's, especially if you enjoyed the HK's sound. 

You really think the phiaton's sound better than the ue 9000? In what ways?
post #348 of 888
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You really think the phiaton's sound better than the ue 9000? In what ways?

 

The Phiaton Chord is more linear overall in response.  The UE 9000 has the tendency to be a bit muddy at times (in BT mode) which the MS530 doesn't suffer from, though the 9000 has better depth and presence overall.  The midrange of the 9000 is a bit recessed and dark in BT mode (it's just dark wired, not really recessed) while the 530 offers better detailing, clarity and energy as a whole.  It does lack the lushness that the 9000 can offer.  Treble response is a wash overall though as the 530 can be a bit edgy at times while the 9000 isn't.  So sound-wise, they have a lot of give and take, the linear response is better overall in tonality (to my ears anyway).

 

It's the weight that makes the Phiaton much more practical in the gym though. 

post #349 of 888
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They definitely will stay put. The issue is that the headband can make noises as you make movements. There is a way to place the headband to avoid this, but if you can't find the proper placement, it is quite annoying.

On the band movement noise, I get noise when the cans are touched, which is rarely, and when I am wired, and the wire is touched. On those two points they give up noise. Also, I found out today, which I don't make a habit, but the music was so good, I did this. Commuting on my bicycle, I had the Harman Kardon BTs on, and my helmet strapped to my backpack.. Shame on me. Anyway for the 5 miles I rode, I did notice some wind noise when I move the speed up a little and turned my head (band movement noise).  I would consider all three of these examples not the norm for me. I am not touching the cans are involved in some action that would require the cans to be touched.  When I am wired, I am stationary, most likely connected to a pc, so the cable is not going to be getting touched. And it is definite no on riding the bicycle with head phones.. Dam, that was nice, but I am a safety nazi on the bicycle and the motorcycle..

 

IMO, at the $97 price point, the flaws take a back seat to its good points.  

post #350 of 888
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Just picked up a pair of the 10RBT's at Best buy for $150.00, SO far so good. True test will be at the gym as far as outside noise. I think they will be fine. The AF62' are being returned. They block zero outside noise...

 

I also ran into Sony's new MDR-zx750BN. Early reviews on Amazon and Best Buy lean towards them not being good at all. They are a Bluetooth headset with active noise cancelling. They are on ear as opposed to over the ear. They don't sound very good. I bought these along with the 10RBT's to compare the two. These are definitely going back. Music sounds harsh, and the on ear design pushed on the ear. Nowhere near as comfortable as the 10RBT's.

 

Yup, the Sony MDR 10RBTs at the $150 price point, is a tough deal to beat..I had a pair, and they were good, real good. In fact, i had the 10RBT and the 1RBTMK2, both Sonys, and the Harman Kardon BTs at the same time. IMO, the opinion of several of my co-workers, the 10RBT was slightly better than the HK BT, but the 10RBT cost 1/3rd more.

 

However, my Sony MDR1RBTMK2, showed me it was in a higher class than the other two. It also cost twice as much as the lower 10RBT and 3 times as much as the HK BTs. IMO, all three are winners at their price points..

post #351 of 888
I'm loving the 10rbt's. Sound great. I have noticed they are not auto connecting to my phone. No big deal.

I am noticing in the gym, they aren't really great for keeping cool. The outside of the cans get soaked in sweat and I generally feel hotter and at times I debate the whole over the ear thing at the gym. I hate in ears as they never stay in.

So I am thinking on ears maybe? Thinking about ordering the Phiatons. I do feel with on ears I will need NC as the gym has music playing etc which is why I sent back the AF62's.
post #352 of 888
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Originally Posted by moneyfornothing View Post

I'm loving the 10rbt's. Sound great. I have noticed they are not auto connecting to my phone. No big deal.

I am noticing in the gym, they aren't really great for keeping cool. The outside of the cans get soaked in sweat and I generally feel hotter and at times I debate the whole over the ear thing at the gym. I hate in ears as they never stay in.

So I am thinking on ears maybe? Thinking about ordering the Phiatons. I do feel with on ears I will need NC as the gym has music playing etc which is why I sent back the AF62's.

What kind of phone do you have, and does it have aptx?

 

Comparing my Harman Kardon BT, the Sony 10RBT was better in all areas, but not the gym..:wink: My head is a perfect fit for the small band that comes with the Harman Kardon BT. I get a nice tight, but not uncomfortable fit..I can really do stuff on the chin up bar and the slant board.. I recall on the slant board doing sit ups, the Sony came off.. Not so with the Harman Kardon BT.  I think you need to throw the Harman Kardon BTs in the mix. For $97 and they have a super return policy. They send you a free mailer if you want to exchange, and they even sent me a mailer for a refund. Plus, you got 30 days..

post #353 of 888
I don't have a problem in the gym. They stay pretty put. I just sweat a ton.

Probably going to order the phiaton.
post #354 of 888
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Originally Posted by moneyfornothing View Post

I don't have a problem in the gym. They stay pretty put. I just sweat a ton.

Probably going to order the phiaton.


Did you end or ordering the Phiaton?

post #355 of 888

I am waiting on a delivery of some Matrix2 AF62 after reading this thread.  I am anticipating a problem with them not being quite large enough to go completely around my ear.  Has anyone working on making the earpads larger, either by modifying the ones that come with the headphones or by replacing them with something else?

 

I'm sure I read that they are removable/replaceable....

post #356 of 888

@Tyler Durden - The pads are definitely replaceable. I tried swapping them with the ones on FSL 360 and while I liked the fit better as they were a little thicker (although not really any bigger) it lost some of the sound stage and the bass became a little too boomy. I believe this is due to the fact that the original pads have a mesh where it mounts to the headphone thereby making it somewhat of an "open" can. The dimensions of the mount for the pads are 3.6" (91.5mm) by 2.93" (74.5mm). Here are some pics:

  

 

FSL 360 pad is on the left in the Left and Center photo.

post #357 of 888
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Originally Posted by turbobb View Post
 

@Tyler Durden - The pads are definitely replaceable. I tried swapping them with the ones on FSL 360 and while I liked the fit better as they were a little thicker (although not really any bigger) it lost some of the sound stage and the bass became a little too boomy. I believe this is due to the fact that the original pads have a mesh where it mounts to the headphone thereby making it somewhat of an "open" can. The dimensions of the mount for the pads are 3.6" (91.5mm) by 2.93" (74.5mm). Here are some pics:

  

 

FSL 360 pad is on the left in the Left and Center photo.

 

That pad looks much more comfortable XD  MEE needs to make the pads on the Matrix2 Thicker IMO... 

 

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JBL released a couple more BT headphones...  I should be getting the E50BT to play with...  I'm expecting a bassy sound though...  Hopefully I'm wrong on that :p 

post #358 of 888
@tinyman392 - Yeah, I've provided that feedback to Mike @ MEE. Hopefully they'll come out with slightly larger and thicker replacement pads (w/memory foam). 
 
The JBL E50BT's look really neat. Looking forward to your review! 
EDIT: Any ideas if they feature aptX support? Can't find on spec sheet.

Edited by turbobb - 6/25/14 at 4:53pm
post #359 of 888

I love the rugged, yet sleek design (from pictures of course).  Despite being owned by Harman, JBL tends to have headphones that are one the more bass-head side of things :/  AKG tends to be warm or neutral...  The Harman BT were actually pretty close to neutral as well.  Hoping for the best from JBL :p 

post #360 of 888

I emailed MEE, see his quick response below.

 

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Hi,

 

Thank you for contacting MEElectronics.

 

Unfortunately we only have smaller/shallower pads for the Matrix headphones, but not larger ones. The earpads from our Venture model are interchangeable with the Matrix pads, but they are the same size, just made of a different material. We don’t have any other pads that will fit on the Matrix headphones.

 

If you wanted to try a DIY solution, you can bolster the pads by, for example, stuffing some cotton or cutting out an oval piece of felt to fit underneath the earpads. You can see an example here: http://assets.head-fi.org/a/af/af0567d9_PhiatonMS400_cotton.JPG . This adds depth to the pads, but it can also make them a little more flexible in terms of width. I think this might be worth trying.

 

Hope this helps, and if you have any additional questions, please let me know.

 

Sincerely,

Mike

www.meelec.com

 

 

 

 


To: support@meelec.com
Subject: Bigger Ear Pads

 

Hello,

 

I have a pair of your AF62 Matrix2 Headphones and I would like to fit some larger circumference ear pads to them so the fit all the way over my ears.  Do you offer any different sizes, or can you recommend a way to make some up?

 

Thanks

 

Barry

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